Michanglais Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Hi everyone, I was just wondering whether anyone knew if the 2012 announced Scotrail 47 Sir Walter Scot will be fitted with snowploughs, or not? I've not found any pictures of the prototype with the loco sporting them, but then they seemed to be added and removed at will... Any info would be much appreciated. Cheers, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley West Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Hi Michael, I don't think any of the 47/7s were ever fitted with snowploughs. I've certainly never seen a picture of one so fitted. Cue someone with a nice shot of one... Cheers, Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimbamoss Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Hi Michael, Cant find any pictures but here is a link ..... http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_gallery.php?index=4&jndex=0&kndex=9&s_loco=47710 Ian I don't think any of the 47/7s were ever fitted with snowploughs. I've certainly never seen a picture of one so fitted. Cue someone with a nice shot of one... Cheers, Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneofFife Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 these are usually separate plastic parts which come in the box in a small packet along with some other details like etched nameplates, brake pipes etc. i doubt they will be pre-fitted michael i cant find any evidence to suggest these locos wore ploughs - certainly not in regular service anyway. every photo i have searched out for this actual locomotive was plough-less! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michanglais Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 Thanks for the link, Dave - very useful. Definitely looks like you're right, certainly about this loco. There are pictures of it in all kinds of states of repair and not a snowplough to be seen! Cheers, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven156 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Oddly enough the ScotRail 47/4's - 47461 and 47541 that Bachmann have made models of DID wear snowploughs in real life that operated on the same routes as the push-pulls! Similarly I haven't seen any pictures of the push-pull 47/7's with snowploughs but as said this is the point a flurry of pictures show up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Scottish Modeller Posted May 4, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 4, 2012 Hi Michael, I have 27 photos of 47 710... None of them have snowploughs. I think Dave is right in saying the none of the 47/7's had snowploughs. Thanks ps - I'll be quite happy to be proved wrong! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raffles Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 47/7s never carried 'ploughs. The Scottish locos that carried 'ploughs, if they were in the 47421-47585 range, had their ETH cable/socket moved on to the bufferbeam and none of the 47/7s received this modification. Another good example is 47517 - didn't get the repositioned ETH and never carried 'ploughs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Oddly enough the ScotRail 47/4's - 47461 and 47541 that Bachmann have made models of DID wear snowploughs in real life that operated on the same routes as the push-pulls! But, they were also more likely to work on other routes than the E-G, routes that in some cases had lower prevailing speeds and lesser traffic densities. AFAIK the same logic prevails with the 47/7s as it did with the 27/1s and 27/2s before them, which also never carried ploughs during the period that they were working the push-pulls - their primary purpose was to slog back and forth at 90mph or more on a heavily trafficked line in the Lowlands. I sense there's a bit of an urban myth growing in the modelling world, that all ScR locos carried snowploughs - in actuality there would never have been enough ploughs to fit all locos and it would make sense to prioritise other class members. Somebody like Bob65b will know better than me, but I'd imagine that ploughing anything other than a very light skimming of snow at that sort of speed would be a Pretty Bad Idea anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NINJA Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 I made the mistake of fitting snowploughs to a 47/7 before I realised that they did not carry them. Will now have to swap the chassis with another one of my Heljan 47's that will be a suitable body to carry ploughs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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