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One loco missed off the high-capacity 'old standard' 3.500 gallon tender list is Compound 4-4-0 No.936. The tender was made in May 1933 and paired with the 4-4-0 until 1954. An ugly ensemble to my eyes. The engine was Scottish-based.

I thought that was a one-off. The RCTS says it was a standard Fowler 3500 gallon tender which had been originally fitted to Class 4F 4453 and was rebuilt with high curved sides in May 1933 and attached to 936 until 1954 when it was replaced with an orthodox tender ex 40933

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The Ten revisited

 

This seems to be the best thread covering the 10 Stanier High Sided tenders, Slab sided or modified Fowlers.  I was hoping for the Dean Sidings one to come into production but it hasn't and won't.  http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/gallery/image/48449-ds-stanier-tender-2/  So you can add your name to the list for the sometime hopefuls for Alan Gibson.  The Falcon Range doesn't even offer hope.

 

Reference materials are Model Railways Jan 1974 which has good rear end shots reasonable side shots and an average drawing.

Vol 5 of Illustrated History of LMS Locos p40,84,98 Vol 4 p171 for a good RHS shot

Historical locomotive Monographs - The LMS Jubilees p31  and p88

 

And on the net:

 http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/gallery/image/43268-44401-kirkby-in-ashfield-mpd-18-07-1965/

http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/lms/mrsalt66.htm

 

The best history of tender evolution is in "The Stanier 4-6-0s of the LMS". None of the photos I have seen undermines the MR articles table of allocations.

 

There is an unresolved Q re the fire iron tunnel.  There are no overhead shots but MR assures us its there and its presence can be deduced from the rivet line on the RHS

 

There is however, one difference within the class.  The first tender to be built was attached to Jubilee 5609 and then from Nov 39 to 4F 4596.  This tender is different in that there is a clear rivet line continuing to the front of the tender on both sides.  It can just be discerned here https://railway-photography.smugmug.com/LMSSteam/Fowler-LMS-Locomotives/Fowler-Tender-Engines/Fowler-4F-060/4456244606-Built-19371941/44577-44586-44587-44596-Built/i-3bztKJb/Aand is very clear on p171 of Vol 4 of the illustrated history of LMS locos (a RHS shot).  The next tender is clearly as per the other 9.

 

So, that's the research.  Now to build one. Gulp  Its the rivets...

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