RMweb Premium JDW Posted September 16, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 16, 2012 Hi all, Was discussing a repaint with a friend whose grandad drove 47249 shortly before he retired. But we've been struggling to find many decent pictures, ideally late 80s tatty Railfreight red stripe livery, can anyone help? Also (to those who really know their 47s!) which RTR model would be best to use as a starting point - I'm not talking Bachmann, Heljan, etc, I mean which one or ones (if any) are closest in terms of correct headcode boxes/flush end, marker/headlights, underframe tanks, etc? Basically which would involve least work as a starting point, doesn't matter what make. Thanks, any help much appreciated! JDW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 47249 had a flush front at No. 1 end, normal headcode box lamps at No. 2 end, no cutaway buffer beams and full water tanks, there are quite a few photos here: http://class47.co.uk/c47_photos_II.php?index=0&jndex=2&kndex=49&s_loco=47249 It can also be seen that she had larger than normal numbers. Due to the front end and water tank requirements I think the only rtr model available in that combination is 47461 in ScotRail livery made by Bachmann as a special edition (stands by to be corrected). Certainly the Heljan Railfreight 47 does not have a flush front or full water tanks (but these are easily replaced) and as far as I know none of the ViTrains or any other Bachmann 47s suit. Looks like a complete repaint from ScotRail to Railfreight to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacque Jacque Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 EDIT: My bad, Heljan's 47334 has a flush No. 2 end. Heljan's 47258 does have flush No.1 but starts life in Freightliner green & yellow, so another full repaint. The Heljan 47334 "P&O Nedlloyd" has one flush & one h/c box end and does at least start out in triple grey which might be useful. Heljan tanks and buffer beams are clip on parts making it easier to fit the correct ones simply by purchasing the appropriate sprues from Howes. I'd imagine there are members here with spare 47 bits too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 EDIT: My bad, Heljan's 47334 has a flush No. 2 end. Heljan's 47258 does have flush No.1 but starts life in Freightliner green & yellow, so another full repaint. The Heljan 47334 "P&O Nedlloyd" has one flush & one h/c box end and does at least start out in triple grey which might be useful. Heljan tanks and buffer beams are clip on parts making it easier to fit the correct ones simply by purchasing the appropriate sprues from Howes. I'd imagine there are members here with spare 47 bits too It has got cutaway buffer beams and cab sides so these would need to be added back on. Probably not too much of a job to do. Either that or make up a flush front on a Heljan 47340 and replace the tanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raffles Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 There are some ViTrains ones with flush fronts but I don't have the gen to hand right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium JDW Posted September 16, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 16, 2012 Thanks for the help so far guys! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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