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...BR suggested some to Diag 530.

I hadn't a clue what that was until last night when I found out that this diag was for the centre cars of 3 car Cravens 105 units.

 

 

I hardly like to mention this after 'that document', but those Cravens trailer cars would have been surplus at that time, having been withdrawn from the LMR sets they were delivered with.

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Any indication as to whether they were to be employed as hauled stock or converted to work with the DLWs, which to be honest might have struggled with the extra load in a Whitrope winter?

 

Dave.

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Any indication as to whether they were to be employed as hauled stock or converted to work with the DLWs, which to be honest might have struggled with the extra load in a Whitrope winter?

 

Dave.

 

These were considered instead of the Southern trailers, so I take it that means loco hauled Dave.

It does raise the prospect that if BR had offered the 112/113 Cravens Power Twins instead of the DLWs then they could have run with one of these in between.

Bernard

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One that I don't think has yet appeared on here, indeed it's new to me as well.

 

D262 on 10th December 1965.

 

Description is incorrect though, it's actually heading on the down line towards Whitrope, through Ninestanerigg Cutting, Riccarton being around a mile & a half behind it. I'll drop John Chalcraft a line to let him know.

 

http://www.railphotoprints.co.uk/index/detail/13511/D262-Y-WhitropeTunnel-101265-BR2262.jpg.html

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That's close to a 'money shot' for this man, Matt. Looks like they were already skimping on the vegetation control in the cutting in '65!

 

Dave.

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It's a J-thirty-ex with a dusting of snow. And an NE box van.

 

Marvellous!

 

Brilliant shot, can imagine the J3(6?) having been left coupled to that van in the bay on Christmas Eve and having had a nice layer of snow build up while out of steam.

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On the final week of the line, I took a wander down the north side of the Up platform and over the railings, just a few yards off-camera, amongst the detritus on the ground was a signal box nameboard "Ewesley". I had to go home to find out that Ewesley was on the Rothbury branch (the box closed in 1941). Why was the board dumped at Hawick?

Bruce

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On the final week of the line, I took a wander down the north side of the Up platform and over the railings, just a few yards off-camera, amongst the detritus on the ground was a signal box nameboard "Ewesley". I had to go home to find out that Ewesley was on the Rothbury branch (the box closed in 1941). Why was the board dumped at Hawick?

Bruce

Hi Bruce

 

Was the area signal and telegraph department offices in Hawick, could this be the reason? As a former NBR branch it would make sense forthe Rothbury branch to be in the Hawick area rather than Newcastle.

 

Colin

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Thanks Colin

 

It just seemed so out-of-place. One of our neighbours worked in the S&T department at Hawick, so that might well be the reason.

 

Re Dave's note above on the 60099 Call Boy photo: it is a Glen, possibly 62484 Glen Lyon, according to the photographer who will consult his notes and let me know if it's not. He goes to say that 62483 Glen Garry and 62494 Glen Gour spent most of their time at Hawick next to Wilton Cemetery in a loop adjoining the North shunt. 62471 Glen Falloch, 62484 Glen Lyon, 62488 Glen Aladale and 62490 Glen Fintaig were all active in the 60s.

 

Bruce

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Thanks for the 'Glen' info, Bruce. Is there any indication of their regular work in 1960-1? I would imagine you'd find them on the Carlisle stopper in the same way you'd find Scotts a couple of years earlier, but where else did they find employment at that time? I know of one at work on the Jedburgh branch in '61, but that's the sum of my knowledge on their deployment.

 

Dave.

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8th October '66, 60532 at what I think is a new location in the Brunthill - Stainton area:
http://www.flickr.co...57608177268125/

EDIT: yes, approaching Bridge 262, pictured here:
http://www.flickr.co...57608177268125/

and while we're on it, we may as well reprise this:
http://www.flickr.co...57608177268125/ D5308 and a maroon CCT,
and this: https://www.flickr.com/photos/16236990@N08/2966606297/in/album-72157608177268125/ the future 37138 with a classic freight, although whether it's a class 8 rather than a 4 is subject to conjecture.

Definitely a newbie here, D18 approaching Bridge 262 on 1M01, real classic transition era modelling:
http://www.flickr.co...57608177268125/

and D288 in a snatched shot, makes for Brunthill:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/16236990@N08/2967505910/in/set-72157608177268125/

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I'm convinced that 64B's two-tone twenty-four D5072 is seen here threading the West Walls of Carlisle with afternoon mails as she makes for the junction with the WR proper:

http://www.flickr.co...57608177268125/

 

Blurry shot of D24 on 1M01 approaching Bridge 262 in December '67 with a year left to go...

http://www.flickr.co...57608177268125/

 

It must be summertime, as The Waverley's running past the West Walls under headcode 1M91, behind D31. Wonder where the window-hangers joined the train?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16236990@N08/2983957760/in/set-72157608177268125/

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Errrr, well I don't think I have for one! That's a beautiful capture, from the South 'box unless I'm very much mistaken. Not had such a clear view of that Railway Terrace away on the hill before, come to mention it. This is a great contender for our 'Early Diesels,' as there's no yellow in sight and it looks like the village is still at its maximum strength. Wonderful!

 

EDIT: WHAT was I talking about? That's one of the finest GSYP split box Peaks in existence. I blame the colour of these old images, so deceptive.

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Doh, what a c0ck* I am.

 

Now, look at THIS, unless my eyes are failing me again, this is a thrill-packed sight, on many levels:

http://www.flickr.co...in/photostream/

 

BFYE retaining gangway doors, 1S64 loaded to its usual summer eight bogies, and there's a B/G bun-truck in there. Imagine if you will, sitting at the formica table with a Vendipac tea and Kit Kat looking across in awe at the glittering Liddle as the sixteen wheeler powers up through Penton and on towards Riddings and the border at Kershopefoot....

 

 

Oh blimey, my eyes missed this one too: http://www.flickr.com/photos/52467480@N08/6435560997/in/photostream, no i.d on 1M91, but I put it to you it's one of D11-14. Class, pure class.

 

* o' the North

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