RMweb Gold Scottish Modeller Posted October 3, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 3, 2012 Hi Simon, or should I say psychic Simon? I actually have a 1985 signal diagram for Dunkeld on file..... I've been to Birnam woods..... I already dismissed Pitlochry as it's too large. May well end up going back to Spean Gorge for the Scottish Autumnal layout! Thanks You really have to go for Dunkeld and Birnam, or Pitlcohry or .......... would be great. If you go to Google Maps here:- https://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?ftid=0x488618fa55f4449d:0x8be9f63b13437a9c&q=56.545249,-3.558862&hl=en&ved=0CA4Q-gswAA&sa=X&ei=jrZsUKi-BOitiAbgxIFI Then go into street view - this is the B867 - The old A9... Picture trains apearing from either right or left screened by the thickenss of the trees but visible though the trees...... Then think of the visible trees in full autumn colour. Another possible spot:- https://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?ftid=0x488619291ab3cf79:0x130c6819e2384031&q=56.559435,-3.601456&hl=en&ved=0CA4Q-gswAA&sa=X&ei=8bdsUI_zEqXPiAbAhoHQCQ Look along the railway towards the North West. Then look at the other end of the possible model:- https://maps.google.co.uk/maps/place?ftid=0x4886192cb298d7cf:0x8088c6175553e235&q=56.560783,-3.608472&hl=en&ved=0CA4Q-gswAA&sa=X&ei=W7hsUOjrDqjSiAbi9oDAAw Then put into the google maps search box:- 56.560783,-3.608472 This takes you to the road over the top of the tunnel. Look along the railway to the South East (over the bridge across the river) Hopefully that gets you an idea! But - This is the Haston thread and we are off topic.... Maybe I better start another thread! Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Scottish Modeller Posted October 6, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 6, 2012 Hi all, I asked for this bit froim the 'Making Haste with Haston' thread to be seperated. Modeling railways in the UK has such a wide range of potential but one of the things that does not seem to have been modelled is a proper British 'Autumn' scene. You know what I mean? If not - take a look at the links in the first message on this thread to see the potential. Autumn or 'Fall' in the UK can be every bit as spectaculkar as 'Fall' in the US and Canada. Where are the layouts that show this though? I can't remember seeing any at all - or did I miss them? Anyone know of any - post up here for us to have a look or read. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gwinnett Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 What gauge are you thinking of Phil? Modern "N" might look good... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard of the Moor Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Colinton is a good example of an autumnal layout http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/37452-scots-we-hae-scottish-rmweb-layouts/page__st__25#entry511037 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Scottish Modeller Posted October 6, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 6, 2012 What gauge are you thinking of Phil? Modern "N" might look good... Hi Jon, My suggestion for Monessie Gorge was published in DEM - Update magazine. Theis would have been as a Late BR Blue/Transition era in N I gave up on this after working out it would need about 1 thousand trees! Either of the Dunkeld and Birnam ideas could be done in OO or N or even 2FS For OO I worked out that the first idea needed about 18ft frontage then round into a fiddleyard. The 2nd idea needed about 12ft then back into a fiddleyard. Both of these would be about 25% compressions of the real scene. In N or 2FS I would use 12ft for the 1st idea and 9ft for the 2nd idea - These would be near enough scale length. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Scottish Modeller Posted October 6, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 6, 2012 Hi James, Colinton may well be set in Autumn but it doesn't have the range of foilage shades that we are trying to achieve. Lothian Autumns - especially in the darker deepness of the area that Colinton portrays, do not get the rich tones of the foilage as they do not benefit from the full strength of the autumn sun. Thanks Colinton is a good example of an autumnal layout http://www.rmweb.co...._25#entry511037 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard of the Moor Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Aye, the photos in that post don't do it justice Phil. It is much richer in the flesh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Scottish Modeller Posted October 6, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 6, 2012 Hi James, The presentation of the layout is correct for what it intends to portray. Th trees do not get the range of tones in the real loacation. Yet - if you travel another mile or so up the valley - you do get the full range of autumn colours to the trees. I know it's avery marginal call to make but.... However - to me - how Colinton is portrayed is correct. An example of this is another place very near to me - North Esk Valey, which has a similar alignment and depth to the station site at Colinton. Here, the trees take a long time in spring to achieve full greenage, then seem to keep full greenage until they loose the leaves. A quick walk with the dog today shows just that! The leaves are falling off the trees now - but they have hardly changed colour. It's really only in the places that recieve full exposure to the autumn sun that the full variety of 'Fall Colours' can be seen. Thanks Aye, the photos in that post don't do it justice Phil. It is much richer in the flesh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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