richard60098 Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Hi gents, I'm ideally after measurements, dimensions and any kind of scale drawings for the above 3 BR wagons, thou theres plenty of pics online of all 3 mentioned those aren't enough to actually model these wagons to scale in OO Gauge! If anyone has any info or knows a site that does that would be greatly appreciated chaps. Heres three links to the wagons in question... Acetic Acid TTA tank http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/stschemicaltua/h1d7f5c3f#h1d7946dd Powell Duffryn PXA http://www.flickr.com/photos/hmillington/2043196353/ SHEERNESS STEEL PXA http://www.flickr.com/photos/hmillington/2034793611/ Best Regards Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugsley Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Take a look here: http://www.barrowmoremrg.co.uk/Prototype.html It's the diagrams of PO wagons you want to look through, you may find the diagrams of all 3 wagons in there - it's only a rough guide, with dimensions, but it's a start. Sense check the dimensions, they're not always right. HTH 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard60098 Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 Take a look here: http://www.barrowmoremrg.co.uk/Prototype.html It's the diagrams of PO wagons you want to look through, you may find the diagrams of all 3 wagons in there - it's only a rough guide, with dimensions, but it's a start. Sense check the dimensions, they're not always right. HTH Hi Martin, Thankyou for the info on the wagons it should be very useful and will do, seems strange there not been more on the net but suppose you can't expect to find proper drawings and dimensions of every wagon out there more so now as most of the decent wagons are long gone and not even about to photograph or measure up! Best Regards Rich. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard60098 Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 Hi all, Can anyone tell me which bogies sit under the SHEERNESS STEEL PXA wagon? I have some spare Bachmann 102T TEA bogies here but i need more sets so was going to get them from S-Kits but i'm unsure which type they are? I thought they were Gloucester MK4 jobbys but there not long enough and don't have the extra points at either end! Heres a link to the wagon any help would great gents PXA Wagon http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/sheernesssteelpoa/h548481#h548481 Kind Regards Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted February 26, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 26, 2013 Gloucester Mk 2s? Cheers, Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard60098 Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 Gloucester Mk 2s? Cheers, Mike Hi Mike, I've been looking at pics and apparently there the MK3's can anyone confirm this please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Martin Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 All the references I've been able to check today say that they're Gloucester Mk2s. This includes David Ratcliffe's Modern Private Owner Wagons on British Rail, and I'd certainly take his word for it. I think (and I'm not 100% sure) that the presence or absence of those extensions at each end of the bogie frame depends on the type of brakes fitted: they're there to provide a mounting point for the outer sets of brake shoes in clasp brake systems. You can actually see this on the photo you linked to in post #4. There were 8 of these wagons, PR3000-7. They were originally built as bolsters, but the high ends apparently caused problems by restricting the length of rod or bar that could be carried. When they were rebuilt into scrap wagons, there were two different styles. If you look at a photo of PR3000, you'll see that the top of the body is level with the top of the original ends. All of the others had their height extended by the addition of a plate above the original end structure. PR3000 also lacked the diagonal bracing on the endmost panels on each side, which all the others had. A 4mm scale drawing of PR3001-7 was published in an early issue of DEMU's Update magazine. They don't seem to sell to non-members any more, but if you happen to be a member, it's in Compendium No.3. I started building one as part of my very brief dalliance with 4mm scale about 10 years ago. I got as far as completing one side and part of the other before abandoning both it and 4mm. I think I used 30thou for the side, with 60x60thou for the verticals and the horizontal top rail and 60x30thou for the diagonals, and that looked about right. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clink junction Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 On 03/02/2013 at 14:00, richard60098 said: Hi gents, I'm ideally after measurements, dimensions and any kind of scale drawings for the above 3 BR wagons, thou theres plenty of pics online of all 3 mentioned those aren't enough to actually model these wagons to scale in OO Gauge! If anyone has any info or knows a site that does that would be greatly appreciated chaps. Heres three links to the wagons in question... Acetic Acid TTA tank http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/stschemicaltua/h1d7f5c3f#h1d7946dd Powell Duffryn PXA http://www.flickr.com/photos/hmillington/2043196353/ SHEERNESS STEEL PXA http://www.flickr.com/photos/hmillington/2034793611/ Best Regards Rich Hi Rich, I know it’s an old thread and a long shot.... did you ever find any info on the Powell Duffryn hooded PXAs? I’ve had a look through Barrowmore website but couldn’t find them. Believe they were diagram JS044A and 044B. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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