JWB Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 (edited) For the color of the mine buildings, I would go for silver or light gray, and pretty clean. http://wvcoalhistory.com/tipples.html Edited October 13, 2013 by JWB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted October 13, 2013 Author Share Posted October 13, 2013 For the color of the mine buildings, I would go for silver or light gray, and pretty clean. http://wvcoalhistory.com/tipples.html Thanks for the link, looks as if it will be very useful. I've tried to save it into Favourites but it won't let me for some reason. As for colours, I've got the C&O Historical Society books on coal railroading but they're in Black and White. Some of the tipples in there seem to be a darker shade but perhaps it's just weathering and dirt? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWB Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I think in earlier years, some were painted black, probably availability and durability of the paint -- it might have been tar, in fact. In more recent times, the PR value of a lighter shade probably made a difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted November 28, 2013 Author Share Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) Latest bulletin! I have completed my model based on MY Tower at Ridgeley using photos from books and the web as my guide. It is not an exact model as its intended site is a bit smaller than the real one but I think it achieves the character of the original. The real MY Tower was finished (I think) in 'Insulbrick' siding in an imitation brick pattern. From what I've been able to deduce from photos this was manufactured in 5 brick x 5 brick sheets with a definite 'pattern' of the darker contrasting 'bricks'. These small sheets were also staggered to avoid adjoining verticals so there is a random but regular arrangement of them which I've tried to duplicate. I used brick plasticard mounted on thick card painted with a base colour and the darker bricks individually added once it had fully dried. I found I could only do about half a wall at a time or I got cross-eyed! Here's some photos of the real thing. You can see whether or not I've managed to capture the character of the building - http://www.wmwestsub.com/marylandjct.htm I'm not sure what the 'edifice' is on the front of the box. Could it have been an exhaust flue for a heating system? There is also a conventional chimney but perhaps the use of this was discontinued when the oil tank at the rear (for a new oil heating system?) was installed. The tank will be added once the building is in place on the layout. The steps are Central Valley, slightly different to the real ones but so much easier to use than scratchbuild! Roof is Wills slate sheet. Everything else (lamps, handrails, chimney, doors, flue etc.) was scratchbuilt mainly from styrene sheet, wire, pins, etc. The real location was in the angle of a wye opposite the entrance to Knobbly Tunnel. Mine is similar but if I have it facing the tunnel all the detail on the front and side will be lost. It will therefore probably be sited facing the overbridge across the entrance to Gordon yard which is how I've positioned it in the photos. This corner of the layout has not yet been scenicked pending the construction of the extension which will incorporate the other 2 sides of the wye. I did include the appropriate points for this when tracklaying. The model will be on show at Wakefield Exhibition this coming weekend. Edited November 28, 2013 by 5050 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Super building model! Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted November 28, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 28, 2013 Looking forward to seeing it at the show tomorrow. Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
torikoos Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Judging by the prototype pictures, you've captured the look and feel of that tower pretty well, nice work :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted December 2, 2013 Author Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) Thanks for the favo(u)rable comments. It won 'Best Railway Structure' award at Wakefield over the weekend. I've now got a pewter tankard to keep clean for the next 12 months. The inside and around the rim might not be a problem though...................... Regarding the 'win', I might actually have been the only entry................................... Someone commented at the show that it is smaller than they thought it was I've had comments like that before but not necessarily about signal towers. Perhaps it was the 'Father Ted' effect? 'Near.' 'Far away' Edited December 2, 2013 by 5050 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted December 30, 2013 Author Share Posted December 30, 2013 I've now discovered - by finding 2 totally unrelated photos in 2 different books, piecing them together and realising what I was seeing - that the 'edifice' on the front is actually the truncated remains of a 3 arm train order signal! Why it was not a separate signal and why the whole signal wasn't fully removed when it became obsolete will probably never be known. This means that the piece of 'exhaust piping' I had carefully integrated into the top end is completely wrong............................... Probably..................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 This last week or so has been spent trying to get the layout to run after its long 'hibernation'. Not an easy task I'm afraid. The rails needed a damn good clean and the recent ballasting hasn't helped even with the care I've taken (or thought I had!) - and my trials and tribulations with Kadee trucks is documented elsewhere. The main point leading into the coal tippler etc. needed electrical attention because the power wasn't being fed to the frog etc. Now I've discovered that my P2K locos all have split gears. Is stamp collecting any easier as a hobby..................................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 Yersterday at the Northern Counties American Modelers meeting I was taken to task by my club chairman for heading this thread as 'Western Maryland RR' - the RR referring to 'Rail Road'. Now, as I'm sure all of you know, it was not a 'RR' but a 'RW' - the official title was 'Railway'. I hang my head in shame - but can't find a way to alter it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted January 13, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2014 go to your original post in this thread and click on edit. You can then later the title Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 go to your original post in this thread and click on edit. You can then later the title Thanks. I had tried that but then realised that you have to use the 'Full Edit' function. Learn a little every day etc. - and that's the 2nd thing I've learned today! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVSNE Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I was taken to task by my club chairman for heading this thread as 'Western Maryland RR' - the RR referring to 'Rail Road'. Now, as I'm sure all of you know, it was not a 'RR' but a 'RW' - the official title was 'Railway'. Um, with all due respect, your club chairman is wrong. From 1853 until 1909 it was most certainly the "Western Maryland Railroad." Name was changed when the line was reorganized after coming out of receivership in December 1909. A not at all uncommon situation. Marty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) Um, with all due respect, your club chairman is wrong. From 1853 until 1909 it was most certainly the "Western Maryland Railroad." Name was changed when the line was reorganized after coming out of receivership in December 1909. A not at all uncommon situation. Marty Yes, I know, but my version is well and truly a lot later so Railway it is. Edited January 13, 2014 by 5050 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 If you go the the current BNSF website you'll note that they also refer to themselves as a "Railway". Likewise most Depots here in New Jersey refer to themselves as "Stations" Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted January 14, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 14, 2014 I think the origin of the BNSF was that the Atchison Topeka and Santa Fe Railway was originally funded with a lot of capital from the UK and the 'Railway' stayed through the merger. This also applies to CN and CP for obvious cutural reasons. Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Actually there are quite a lot of Railways in the USA, still, for a variety of reasons. An interesting subject for a new thread, perhaps? Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted January 14, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2014 The Southern as well. My shaky understanding of it all is that both terms, railroad and railway, were in use in the UK in the mid 19th C but that railroad gradually dropped out of favour over here. I think you can find railroad in old parliamentary bills. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 After more than 4 years (where has it gone??!!!) I'm revisiting this thread, not to post news of any developments, but to say that I've hardly touched it during this time. In fact, it has become a bit of a dumping ground for all sorts of things. I have become a lot more involved with my British modelling in P4, especially industrials and Western Region, so much so that I would like to start a new P4 layout - but space to do so is a problem. I may therefore take the decision to part with the WM layout and stock so if anyone may be interested in acquiring it then please PM me to discuss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 5050 - perhaps contact Sophie at Anorak's Anonymous - she buys layouts/collections. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 On 09/03/2018 at 13:54, 5050 said: After more than 4 years (where has it gone??!!!) I'm revisiting this thread, not to post news of any developments, but to say that I've hardly touched it during this time. In fact, it has become a bit of a dumping ground for all sorts of things. I have become a lot more involved with my British modelling in P4, especially industrials and Western Region, so much so that I would like to start a new P4 layout - but space to do so is a problem. I may therefore take the decision to part with the WM layout and stock so if anyone may be interested in acquiring it then please PM me to discuss. The layout is still in a condition of suspended animation along with all the WM (and B&O, Pennsy, Reading, N&W etc.!) stock. I will be happy to part with it (for a realistic sum) if anyone is interested. Please PM me for details. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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