RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted November 12, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 12, 2013 Called in yesterday for a couple of the ABS-221-RC 28mm round speakers (N97FU - £3.59) and was pleasantly surprised to see that they stock most of the usual speakers we use for sound installations: the 20x40mm 224-RC(N99FU) - £3.69 - generally used in diesels, sadly they don't stock the ESU low profile enclosure! the one with the enclosed chamber 229-RC (N24KJ) - £8.49 - my "standard" speaker for in the tenders of my BR Standards and the 28x40mm 230-RC (N25KJ) - £7.99 - the ultimate tender speaker Some are more expensive than say Digitrains charge, but others are less and if you have a local Maplins you don't pay postage It's not obvious from the Maplins website which speaker is which as they don't have proper images Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platform 1 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Called in yesterday for a couple of the ABS-221-RC 28mm round speakers (N97FU - £3.59) and was pleasantly surprised to see that they stock most of the usual speakers we use for sound installations: the 20x40mm 224-RC(N99FU) - £3.69 - generally used in diesels, sadly they don't stock the ESU low profile enclosure! the one with the enclosed chamber 229-RC (N24KJ) - £8.49 - my "standard" speaker for in the tenders of my BR Standards and the 28x40mm 230-RC (N25KJ) - £7.99 - the ultimate tender speaker Some are more expensive than say Digitrains charge, but others are less and if you have a local Maplins you don't pay postage It's not obvious from the Maplins website which speaker is which as they don't have proper images Thank you sir - useful to know, especially as Maplin's range seems to be declining You may know that an 8ohm version of the 4ohm 224-RC - the ABS-216-RC - is available from CPC (others also, e.g Rapid). It's cheaper and p&p is currently free for web orders. I use the 216 in diesels and find their paper cone produces a more 'solid' sound than the mylar ones. (No connection with CPC except as satisfied customer ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corax67 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Excellent news - I was planning a trip to Maplin tomorrow to stock up on bits anyway so I will have a look at these too. Many thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compbck Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I stumbled on this post this week at the same time that I was maintaining and re-fitting sound to a Hornby Grange 4-6-0, so I took a chance on purchasing the 40mmx28mm speaker (N25KJ), and am I glad I did. The tender did require excess plastic to be removed from inside to allow the speaker to be fitted facing upwards on a bed of BLU-TAC which seems to act a s very good sound insulator. A few small holes were then drilled in the coal load to allow the sound to escape. The wires were soldered to a small 2-pin connector and glued in a small gap adjacent to the cab. A further 2-pin connector allowed the extended speaker wires to be run through the cab to the decoder which was secreted within the cavity of the boiler. This connection now allows the tender to be easily removed from the main body for maintenance etc. However, the main reason for this feedback post is to praise the quality and increased sound produced from this particular speaker and to thank Redgate Models for bringing this to notice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted November 24, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2013 It is a very good speaker, on my Hornby 8F I made a sealed chamber in the floor of the tender and sealed the speaker pointing down. In this way the primary sound is projected at the track and the tender body acts as a enclosure emphasising the bass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauliebanger Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I stumbled on this post this week at the same time that I was maintaining and re-fitting sound to a Hornby Grange 4-6-0, so I took a chance on purchasing the 40mmx28mm speaker (N25KJ), and am I glad I did. The tender did require excess plastic to be removed from inside to allow the speaker to be fitted facing upwards on a bed of BLU-TAC which seems to act a s very good sound insulator. A few small holes were then drilled in the coal load to allow the sound to escape. The wires were soldered to a small 2-pin connector and glued in a small gap adjacent to the cab. A further 2-pin connector allowed the extended speaker wires to be run through the cab to the decoder which was secreted within the cavity of the boiler. This connection now allows the tender to be easily removed from the main body for maintenance etc. However, the main reason for this feedback post is to praise the quality and increased sound produced from this particular speaker and to thank Redgate Models for bringing this to notice. As you will see from my response to your other post, it's only £5.50 from Digitrains, not £7.99 as at Maplins. http://www.digitrains.co.uk/ecommerce/search/dss230-speaker--rectangular--4ohm--2w--40x28x11-5mm.aspx Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 One word of warning when buying speakers. Whilst the size and impedance may be the same the power handling capabilities may not be the same. Some of the cheaper speakers are cheaper because they are of a lower wattage. I bought some 28mm speakers only to find out they are 1 watt whilst the ESU ones were 2 watts. This affected the quality of the sound at higher volume levels which can easily be achieved in some cases. Push the speaker at higher volumes and frequencies and the quality drops off very quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compbck Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I agree Paul, but if you are lucky enough to have a Maplins in your area like I do - there is no postage to pay or waiting in to sign for deliveries - Digitrain charge £4 Royal Mail Sign For as their cheapest delivery method making the total cost £10.30. A minor point I know, but to some the cost including delivery charges is an important issue, especially if you have to wait in to sign for it, or collect it from the sorting office if you miss a delivery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauliebanger Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I agree Paul, but if you are lucky enough to have a Maplins in your area like I do - there is no postage to pay or waiting in to sign for deliveries - Digitrain charge £4 Royal Mail Sign For as their cheapest delivery method making the total cost £10.30. A minor point I know, but to some the cost including delivery charges is an important issue, especially if you have to wait in to sign for it, or collect it from the sorting office if you miss a delivery. £5.50 speaker and £4.00 postage = £9.50 No, it's not a minor point and one which is perfectly valid to make. You are correct that it depends upon one's circumstances and everyone will do their own calculations. For me, there's someone at home most days, my nearest Maplins is 8 miles away (that's an hour travelling into town and back - don't know the value you put on your time - and about £3.00 in fuel, plus the £1.00 car park fee) and I usually would not buy just a single speaker, but add it (them) to other things I need (like a sound decoder which Maplins don't stock), so the postage cost is spread across the entire purchase. Whereas, every speaker of this type at Maplins will cost £7.99 But sometimes, I might need something urgently, in which case economy may have to bow to convenience. There's no right or wrong in this and there was no intended criticism on my part; we are both just making information available for others to make an informed choice. Kind regards, Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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