canpac35005 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 hi everybody! im chris and new to this site I was wondering if anyone out there can help me? here's the situation.... after moving in with my fiancée she said I can have complete control of the spare room to "play trains" and because of this the project in my parents attic wont fit in the new railway room!so like many of us out there im starting a new plan, and here's where I need help can anyone help me with coming up with a track plan? I have a space 12' by 8'ive searched the internet, c.j.freezer books and doodled and doodled can anyone help? im looking to create a double track southern railway terminus station with at least 4 platforms including a bay, some goods facilities (van, milk, parcels and cattle traffic) engine shed with turntable, any help would be greatfully received il even start a progress thread when ive got a plan! im sort of thinking something like Southampton terminus but freelance cheers chirs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Welcome Chris, To give us a bit more info, what scale are you working In? Also, do you require a continuous run, or would a 'U' shape layout do the job? cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canpac35005 Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share Posted December 18, 2013 oooops sorry im working in oo gauge, all the plans ive doodled have been u shapped because of the doorway but im open to a continuous run. the door is on the 8' wall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danemouth Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Chris, Have you had a look through this section of the forum? http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/forum/66-layout-track-design/ Some nice designs in the threads, Regards, Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canpac35005 Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share Posted December 18, 2013 thanks dave il check it out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiveandNine Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Alternatively, go onto www.old-maps.co.uk and have a look at the 1920-1960 protoype in 1:2500 historical format. This scale usually gives a good idea of siding/platform/building locations and actual point layout. A compressed version Bognor Regis is a possible - close enough to London to be on the 3rd rail from a relatively early stage but still very much a country town terminus station. Alternatively, Eridge looks at first glance like a terminus but is actually 'through'. Doesn't have an engine shed, but does/did have junctions close to it, so branch and main stock both viable. Having an 11' x 9' room, I had similar issues here. Possibly obvious but I failed initially on the following so will repeat - try not to fill it with track and make sure there's a good space for a workbench. Had to rip out and start again! Al Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david51 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Alternatively, go onto www.old-maps.co.uk and have a look at the 1920-1960 protoype in 1:2500 historical format. This scale usually gives a good idea of siding/platform/building locations and actual point layout. A compressed version Bognor Regis is a possible - close enough to London to be on the 3rd rail from a relatively early stage but still very much a country town terminus station. Alternatively, Eridge looks at first glance like a terminus but is actually 'through'. Doesn't have an engine shed, but does/did have junctions close to it, so branch and main stock both viable. Having an 11' x 9' room, I had similar issues here. Possibly obvious but I failed initially on the following so will repeat - try not to fill it with track and make sure there's a good space for a workbench. Had to rip out and start again! Al Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david51 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Alternatively, go onto www.old-maps.co.uk and have a look at the 1920-1960 protoype in 1:2500 historical format. This scale usually gives a good idea of siding/platform/building locations and actual point layout. A compressed version Bognor Regis is a possible - close enough to London to be on the 3rd rail from a relatively early stage but still very much a country town terminus station. Alternatively, Eridge looks at first glance like a terminus but is actually 'through'. Doesn't have an engine shed, but does/did have junctions close to it, so branch and main stock both viable. Having an 11' x 9' room, I had similar issues here. Possibly obvious but I failed initially on the following so will repeat - try not to fill it with track and make sure there's a good space for a workbench. Had to rip out and start again! Al Hi Chris,You could look at Bognor Regis or Littlehampton,both fit your criteria and played host to electrics and steam but I would look at Reading Southern which closed in 1965.Electrics from Waterloo and a variety of steam services on the old South Eastern line from Redhill. It had a reasonable sized loco shed ,goods yard and exchange traffic with the Great Western.lots of potential there I think. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted December 19, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2013 I would agree with all the suggestions here including your own one of Southampton Terminus. But all will need a lot of compression to fit into that sort of space. You mention Southern but don't say what sort of trains you are looking to run. If not mainline, we could probably add the likes of Exmouth. Bournemouth West is another decent candidate with the added interest of trains coming from the S&D. You might need a bit of Rule 1 there though as not much goods traffic. Portsmouth & Southsea might also be possible, terminus and through platforms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canpac35005 Posted December 19, 2013 Author Share Posted December 19, 2013 I would agree with all the suggestions here including your own one of Southampton Terminus. But all will need a lot of compression to fit into that sort of space. You mention Southern but don't say what sort of trains you are looking to run. If not mainline, we could probably add the likes of Exmouth. Bournemouth West is another decent candidate with the added interest of trains coming from the S&D. You might need a bit of Rule 1 there though as not much goods traffic. Portsmouth & Southsea might also be possible, terminus and through platforms. well im thinking, anything southern related, maybe 5 coach max. my idea is to have a track plan that is prototype inspired but could be anywhere on sr metals. I only mentioned Southampton terminus as inspiration and its the only terminus I know of in the areas I grew up, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canpac35005 Posted December 19, 2013 Author Share Posted December 19, 2013 how do I upload pics so I can show you what ive got so far? how do I upload pics so I can show you what ive got so far? im using anyrail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted December 19, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 19, 2013 To save a layout image from Anyrail: click the File tab at the top left of the screen, then Export as>Picture>OK. Enter a file name and change Save as type to GIF... then click Save. In RMweb, if you can't see Attach Files below the reply window click "More reply options" at the bottom right to see the full editor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium mezzoman253 Posted December 19, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 19, 2013 Hi, Once you have some images to post. Have a look at this page http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/?app=core&module=help at the bottom is a bit about attachments, it should talk you through it. One or two of the buttons are rather dark, but you should get the idea. HTH Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canpac35005 Posted December 19, 2013 Author Share Posted December 19, 2013 ok heres what ive got so far, trying to fit in a goods yard, mpd with turn table any suggestions?the grey lines done wit paint represent the platforms for space I was thinking a high level station building. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted December 20, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2013 well im thinking, anything southern related, maybe 5 coach max. my idea is to have a track plan that is prototype inspired but could be anywhere on sr metals. I only mentioned Southampton terminus as inspiration and its the only terminus I know of in the areas I grew up, I'm not quite sure if we have the date you are looking at. And what about electrification? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted December 20, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2013 ok heres what ive got so far, trying to fit in a goods yard, mpd with turn table any suggestions? the grey lines done wit paint represent the platforms for space I was thinking a high level station building. That's looking quite hopeful. The door is in a position which allows plenty of possibilities. Is a lifting flap or duckunder across the doorway out of the question? In that sort of space, you could have a perfectly good terminus (Cannon Street?) at an upper level with a continuous run and reverse loop at lower level to greatly increase the operating potential. Most of the goods traffic would probably stay on the lower level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canpac35005 Posted December 20, 2013 Author Share Posted December 20, 2013 That's looking quite hopeful. The door is in a position which allows plenty of possibilities. Is a lifting flap or duckunder across the doorway out of the question? In that sort of space, you could have a perfectly good terminus (Cannon Street?) at an upper level with a continuous run and reverse loop at lower level to greatly increase the operating potential. Most of the goods traffic would probably stay on the lower level. a flap isn't out of the question, but I was thinking to start of with a terminal then possibly progress onto a continuous run, in terms of time frame my idea is 1956-1967 a big gap I know but heres the genius bit, im going to duplicate all of the railway buildings and have them painted to match different eras including the turntable well to look over grown and unused thus allowing me to "time travel" or operate a modern mainline terminus connected to a preserved railway, this all probably sounds quite ambitious but I enjoy the plastic kit building and ever since I can remember ive always loved the sight of the 125's in intercity livery. also this isn't going to be a short build project but im hoping I can build it in sections so as to have little pieces up and running so I don't get bored building the whole layout in one go and fall into that trap of starting it all over again. I hope this all makes some sense 3rd rail is something I will consider in the future but for the moment im happy to "imagine" its there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted December 20, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2013 a flap isn't out of the question, but I was thinking to start of with a terminal then possibly progress onto a continuous run, in terms of time frame my idea is 1956-1967 a big gap I know but heres the genius bit, im going to duplicate all of the railway buildings and have them painted to match different eras including the turntable well to look over grown and unused thus allowing me to "time travel" or operate a modern mainline terminus connected to a preserved railway, this all probably sounds quite ambitious but I enjoy the plastic kit building and ever since I can remember ive always loved the sight of the 125's in intercity livery. also this isn't going to be a short build project but im hoping I can build it in sections so as to have little pieces up and running so I don't get bored building the whole layout in one go and fall into that trap of starting it all over again. I hope this all makes some sense 3rd rail is something I will consider in the future but for the moment im happy to "imagine" its there That all makes good sense. So, an electrified part of the Southern Region but still with the possibility of steam (earlier period) and inter-regional diesel (later period). We could add Eastbourne to previous suggestions. No great harm in pretending that 3rd rail reached Southampton earlier than it did in reality. My only query would be putting in the continuous run later rather than first as some of it is likely to be below the terminus unless you go for something like Portsmouth & Southsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canpac35005 Posted December 20, 2013 Author Share Posted December 20, 2013 no I was going to make the terminus a through instead of a through terminus set up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canpac35005 Posted December 20, 2013 Author Share Posted December 20, 2013 but a terminus is more appealing in regards to operational interest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted December 20, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2013 Plenty of through stations where trains terminated e.g. Hastings (which is quite compact and on a curve). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canpac35005 Posted December 20, 2013 Author Share Posted December 20, 2013 I think il stick with a terminus for now and then leave it open for extension later, under the base boards will be used for storage as we don't have an attic so it needs to be acsessable to the usual household cr*p Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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