M Graff Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I posted this in overseas as well.... I got this HO scale loco: It is a 2-6-4? tank, but what make? I first thought Tenshodo, but it differs too much from the ones I have.... Even the origin of the prototype eludes me. USA? Japan? I will repair it, and build a new boggie for it, but I need to know how it should look. Thanks in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Wintle Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I would think it is unlikely to be a US prototype. It would appear to have been a knucle-coupler equipped loco from the fact there is a cut lever on the front. That also looks like condensing tubes on the boiler, so perhaps somewhere hot? Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Devil Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Is it a JNR C11 minus smoke deflectors? I'll be honest it's a bit of a guess just reminds me of one of those. http://www.southernsteamtrains.com/jnrc11.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Graff Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 Yes, it is most likely japanese. But not a C-11.... It has many similarities though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Devil Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Earlier C10 perhaps? http://www.geocities.jp/ima19971019/railmodel/c10.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Devil Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Perhaps this http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/1967-toby-6-4t-c10-jnr-japanese-ho-293370500 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Graff Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 That seems like the exact kit! Thanks! Seems as they are rather rare? Wonder if it is in HOj? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dullsteamer Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 It's a C10. The model is 1/80th scale for 16.5mm gauge track, so it's No.16 scale not HOj. They're not particularly rare, you often see them come up on Yahoo Japan auctions. The cylindrical fittings on either side of the boiler were experimental feedwater heaters. Some of the initial batch of C11s were also fitted with them. Of the 23 engines built, only one survives. C108 is preserved in working order by the Oigawa Tetsudo. If you need drawings of the trailing truck I have some I can send you. All the best, Mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Graff Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 I would LOVE some drawings! Thanks Dullsteamer/Mark for the very good info and video! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dullsteamer Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 My pleasure! Here's the drawing: And a photo: Larger versions of these scans are on my Flickr page. Cheers, Mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 That's a handsome locomotive! Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Graff Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 Wonderful! Now I have some very interesting work ahead of me. :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dullsteamer Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 That's a handsome locomotive! I think so too, but then I'm biased! A few years back I visited the Oigawa Railway, and spent some time on the footplate of C108. It was a very capable loco, and like all JNR standard classes the cab was very well designed and "user friendly". If you're ever in Japan, the Oigawa Rly is well worth visiting. Also seen in this video is one of three Seibu Railway E31 class Bo-Bo ELs that were transferred to the Oigawa in 2010. All the best, Mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dullsteamer Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Wonderful! Now I have some very interesting work ahead of me. Michael, rather than scratchbuilding a complete new trailing truck, you might consider using the whitemetal truck frame castings made by AMB for their GE steeplecab kits. They're very similar to the type used on the C10s, and would save you a lot of work. The wheelbase is slightly longer than the C10 trailing truck, but I doubt anyone would notice. I won't tell anyone if you don't! http://www.rgspemkt.com/GESIDEFRAMES.html All the best, Mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Graff Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 Thanks for the tip on the sideframes, but the shipping was HIGH! $25 shipping.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Or something from Precision Scale co....? http://www.precisionscaleco.com #31552 Cab forward front truck or #31561 C-80-P traction truck...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dullsteamer Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 The cab-forward truck would be close, although its wheelbase is about a scale foot too long. The Standard C-80 truck is very different in appearance, the frames and equalizer are a pressing. I'm surprised that the postage cost was so high for the AMB products. I recently bought a number of their traction parts - the cost of postage was reasonable. But then, I'm in Australia, not Sweden. Cheers, Mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Graff Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 Yes, the postage for some items that fit in the smallest jiffy bag should NOT cost $ 25! Considering that the brass Dreyfus Hudson I bought a few weeks ago cost exactly that to ship from the US to Sweden.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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