Strathyre Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I recently won an auction on a well known site for a negative showing a J36, purported to be 65308, at a station presumably somewhere in Scotland. I originally thought it was Aberfoyle, on the basis of the hill formations, but the platform and buildings don't look right. I also thought Ballater but, again, it doesn't seem to fit. I'm also not convinced about the locomotive's identity - 65308 was withdrawn from Eastfield in 1951. Any ideas? I'm now thinking somewhere in the ex-GNSR area... Paul Edit - just in case of any worries about copyright, it comes to me as the new owner of the negative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Edit - just in case of any worries about copyright, it comes to me as the new owner of the negative. Actually that is debatable, as I understand it. If you can guarantee that it is an original negative and it was supplied with a written statement that copyright was transferred to yourself then you are correct. However if it is just a copy negative you cannot assume you have copyright on the image just because you own the negative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strathyre Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 Actually, luckily in this case it's not debatable - it is an original sold with copyright. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Actually, luckily in this case it's not debatable - it is an original sold with copyright. Paul Nice result then well done - unfortunately many people think because they own the negative then they own the copyright which isn't always true. Sounds like you've got it covered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 As far as I understand it, the photographer holds the copyright. Therefore, as long as you buy the negative from the original photographer with a signed statement to the fact that the copyright has been transferred, that is ok. If the original photographer is dead, then they cannot (obviously) sign any transfer form - and only after 70 years have elapsed from the date of death does the copyright lapse. However, I may have got his wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strathyre Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 It was sold with copyright Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Third time of trying to reply - $#%*! tablet! I don't think it's Aberfoyle. That's an island platform, or a platform with a bay. Aberfoyle wasn't an island platform and while it appears to have had a (goods?) bay, the curve is in the wrong direction. Also, those look like concrete lamp posts with electric lights on them - I would be surprised if Aberfoyle got those before closure. However, having said where I think it's not, I don't have any suggestions about where it is - sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strathyre Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 I agree, don't think it is Aberfoyle which is a shame as the hills (sort of) match! Still suspect it may be somewhere up on the GNSR area but can't think where. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Paul - there's a corridor connection on the vehicle to the right of the engine. There also looks to be one on the vehicle in the background, to the left of the train - is that clearer in the original negative? If so, I think it cuts down the possibilities a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strathyre Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 Looking at the hill-scape (is that a real word) I think it's Aviemore - it appears to be at the north end of the station facing north in a bay to the west side - can only find a 1900 map which doesn't have that cottage there but it mostly fits.... it may also explain the presence of coaches lying about the place. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 That's funny - I'm looking at Aviemore right now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strathyre Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 Just looked at Google earth, I'm now sure it is Aviemore and, if it is, that would pretty much rule out 65308 - could be 65338 which was a Kittybrewster engine in the mid-late 50's although the lack of smokebox numberplate would suggest early in the nationalisation period so the whole number's probably wrong! I've got another photo that I want to identify, stand by! Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strathyre Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 17th photo down, similar view (but from the opposite platform) may be wrong but I think that may be it... http://sulzerpower.com/archive/photo0907.html Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim49 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I was going to suggest that possibly the photo was back to front but I can just make out the hinges on the smokebox door on the correct side so that's another bright idea shot down. As to it being Aviemore, the platform doesn't seem to be wide enough but if it was a North facing bay as you suggest...... Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strathyre Posted February 27, 2014 Author Share Posted February 27, 2014 Yeah Jim, think it may be Aviemore after all up at the north end - must be the Speyside goods doing some shunting (and I think it does have a smokebox plate after all, contrary to a previous post of mine). Thanks Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
upneysidings Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 It seemed silly to start a new thread for this enquiry and so I'm making use of this existing thread. I recently bought this negative of N15 69163 in charge of the Branch Line Society's Bathgate and District railtour of 6/5/61. As per usual there's no worthwhile documentation with it and so i should be grateful for identification of the station where this shot was taken please: Rgds, Mike M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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