Rhys Underwood Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Hi all, I have today installed a set of Peco points and felx track in to my main running line, however I have tested it and when the point is changed the power dies and does not return for a good minute. The hole layout loses all power when this happens. Can any of you explan why this is happing? There are a pair of wires under the point aswell would the wires have any effect on the problem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Have you put an electrofrog point in a circuit of track without insulating joiners? if so it will short circuit when you change to the diverging route. I guess that your power unit then cuts out and resets after a minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frobisher Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 You're definitely causing a short circuit when you set the point (even in momentary). Is this an electrofrog or insulfrog point you've fitted? Is there a power feed to the siding you've just created or are you relying on power routing from the point? If your mainline is a loop, and your point is electrofrog (with no insulating fishplates fitted) then this will short when set to go down the siding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro_man Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Hi all, I have today installed a set of Peco points and felx track in to my main running line, however I have tested it and when the point is changed the power dies and does not return for a good minute. The hole layout loses all power when this happens. Can any of you explan why this is happing? There are a pair of wires under the point aswell would the wires have any effect on the problem? Wires under the point would AFAIK be an electrofrog point. You would definitely need insulated joiners on the 2 ends of the frog. The wires are for if you want to change the polarity of the frog with a switch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Underwood Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 Thanks for your replies, I think I have some insulated joiners I'll dig them out and put them on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Underwood Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 I've put the insulated joiners in but the same thing is still happing any ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Check your wiring. The golden and simple rule with electrofrog points is that there must not be an electiical feed to either rail after the frog, this applies to the two frog rails only. Check and if there is a feed (i.e. not a dead end siding etc where there will not be one), then fit an insulated fishplate behind the frog on the rail with the feed. Shown below as gap With insulfrog points this does not apply. Hope this helps Brit15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Underwood Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 Thanks Britt15 it does help a lot I can see I've gone wrong with where I have put the insulated fishplates. I shall change that tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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