GWR88 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Morning all, I've recently been researching about BATUS; a British army training unit in Alberta, Canada. Regularly, they move items like landrovers, Warriors and various APCs down to the States to train with the US army in the desert. Could anyone tell me what type of flatcars these items would be shipped down on? Someone told the landrovers are moved on bulkhead flatcars but can anyone confirm this? Thanks in advance, Lloyd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Not sure they would be bulkhead flats, that sounds unlikely to me (though I guess nothing is impossible!) If there's such a thing as a "standard" flat to move heavy vehicles look at the 60' flats as per the Intermountain and MTH models (HTTX/OTTX is the TTX version I think, though lots of railroads have equivalent cars of their own?) - they are set up with tie downs for vehicles and would be chunky enough to take things like the Warriors and APCs. There are also vehicle carrier conversions from 89' piggyback or autorack flats for the lighter stuff - look for ITTX. DODX has a bunch of their own heavy flatcars (and some 89' ones for lighter stuff too) and kits/rtr for the two main types of heavy one are just coming onto the market, so they might be a possibility? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewC Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 They are currently using flats and autoracks. Throw this into Google Earth and street view the result by pinning on highway 1. 50°13'04.57" N 111°10'05.99" W This is the loading ramp at Suffield (aka CFB Suffield aka DRES aka BATUS) on the CP mainline between Calgary and Medicine Hat. Used to drive past there once every couple of weeks for work. The grain elevator is now long gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Lloyd - there are photos on TrainOrders.com quite often, of military trains with Tanks, guns and Humvees plus others - but it does cost about 75 cents a week to join. See also http://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/20140 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Just to round out my earlier comment with some new HO product info - possibly not that relevant to the OP's question, but relevant to the topic heading! Alkem Scale Models http://www.alkemscalemodels.com/has just come out with multimedia kits for DODX41xxx series flats, these are the red ones that can take one M1A1 or a couple of Bradleys. As an added extra, the chain sets from that kit are to be available separately and can be used for similar securing to other flats, and the decal set (again, available separately) makes modelling some of the other DODX types easier. Albrae Models http://www.albraemodels.com/models/H402-1.htmhas the DODX40xxx series flat on the way as a RTR model, these are the green 6 axle flats designed to move a pair of M1A1, and the model will come with a pair of them included! It doesn't come with the chains, but the Alkem ones should give a good option for adding that detail. (The link to the loading PDF on this page is a useful one for anyone modelling these loads as well!) (I think i'm right in saying that no other flat type other than the DODX40xxx and DODX41xxx will take an M1A1, it has to be one of these two...) And as if by magic - Microscale has come out with a DODX set (#87-1478 if the link below - also available in N #60-1478) http://www.microscale.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=87-1478 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR88 Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 Thank you for the help guys, would these kits be suitable for use? http://www.nscalekits.co.uk/QTTX70flat.html? Thanks Andrew for then co-ordinates. Lloyd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 No, too big - these are perfect: http://www.intermountain-railway.com/n/html/66412.htm This would be an alternative, but doesn't have the vehicle tie downs in the deck that the IM one has (presuming that's the same as the HO car) http://www.nscalekits.co.uk/60ftflat.html If you want some variety, the DODX40xxx are available in N as well... http://www.nscalekits.co.uk/dodx.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 A new thread http://bigbluetrains.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7916 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dalesman Posted November 12, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 12, 2014 Built one of the Alan Curtis HO scale ones about 6-7 years ago - etched brass - they go together very easily and just need a couple of Commonwealth three axle bogies* under them to ride on fitted three HO scale Humvees to it. BTW spoke to Peter Harris from nscalekits.com recently and he said that he still has the Alan Curtis HO scale moulds and tools and is interested in doing a new production run if people are interested, so drop him a line! Chris * Has a passing similarity to a BR Class 31 bogie - also a Commonwealth foundry product! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR88 Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 Thank you very much Jack for the link and Chris, i will talk to Peter later on toinight. Thanks once again, Lloyd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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