Allegheny1600 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Siemens wins a €1.7Billion order! http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/passenger/single-view/view/EUR17bn-rhein-ruhr-express-order-awarded.html Will be the end of loco hauled local trains in these areas though but not until after 2020. Cheers, John E. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Hmm, I see they protected their Country's interests, unlike our lot... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted April 3, 2015 Author Share Posted April 3, 2015 Of course! Don't all European countries do that, against EU law though it may be (now) - or is that our lot's interpretation of that law, because our lot are so anti-rail anyway. Hard not to get "political" with this but when you've travelled extensively across Europe and other places, you certainly see that in other countries, they follow EU regulation's as they choose. This kind of thing was highly evident way before the EU drafted a law against it so maybe it's just less obvious now, not that €1.7 Billion is subtle. No! British government has been too anti-rail for far too long, that's why we have so little rail left and why our motorways are so choked full of lorries. Sorry about the rant! John E. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Yet Siemens announce they don't have the capacity to build the Thameslink fleet, leaving the government able to award them the Crossrail fleet deal AND give Bombardier the Thameslink deal, when a homogenous fleet for both would have been better in the long term. Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Without knowing who the other bidders were and the quality and price of their tenders, there's no way of knowing if Siemens won because they are German. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenman Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Yet Siemens announce they don't have the capacity to build the Thameslink fleet, leaving the government able to award them the Crossrail fleet deal AND give Bombardier the Thameslink deal, when a homogenous fleet for both would have been better in the long term. Wasn't it the other way round - Siemens won Thameslink, but govt took so long to agree a final deal (securing acceptable private financing was the issue?) that production of Thameslink trains would then have overlapped with Crossrail. Siemens said they couldn't do both at once, leaving the field clear for Bombardier to win Crossrail? Govt screwed up so badly that Bombardier anyway won an order for interim Thameslink trains, to enable 319s to be cascaded. Had govt done its job properly, Siemens could have bid for both. As it is this German fleet looks like it will only start delivering in 2018, so the timing works for them. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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