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Maybank to Radley Jnc in N Gauge

 

by SPAD

 

original page on Old RMweb

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Comment posted by Flying Pig on Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:24 pm

 

SPAD wrote:

 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/download/file.php?id=89353

I love it (and I had a hand in the original). But how on earth did you get it to back the other way? http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/icon_what.gif

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??? posted on Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:00 pm

 

Hi Simon. Glad you like. Hope I'm not misunderstanding you here, but i presume you mean how do I get the return journey from Salford steel to Maybank http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif Ok then, in my own little NWM world, the 60 runs into Salford turnback, shunts back up Salford down siding, detatches wagons, returns back to the turnback, an 08 picks up the wagons and takes into the steel terminal, they then do their business, the 60 then shunts back up the down siding, the 08 shunts the empties back up the spur where the 60 reverses up to the empties, hooks up and away she goes. Again sorry if I'm completely off the mark here. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

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Comment posted by Flying Pig on Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:04 pm

 

SPAD wrote:

Hi Simon. Glad you like. Hope I'm not misunderstanding you here, but i presume you mean how do I get the return journey from Salford steel to Maybank

Your return working makes perfect sense (and looks wonderful) - it's just rather hard to do in BVE http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif

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??? posted on Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:46 pm

 

Down at the trackside!! http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/icon_wave.gif

 

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Bit blurry 220019 Mersey Voyager on 1M08 Gatwick Airport to Manchester Picc via Salford Bridge. Stand back!!

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Back to the tree's Steve. Most of the specimen tree's shown below are between 10-14cms, the ones growing on top of Foxfield Tunnel are about 9-10cms. There's also a few smaller sapplings, 4-5cms. The row of poplar tree's shown below are about 14cms high

 

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158783 on 2M09 1348 Frankley Jnc to Maybank via Salford Bridge stopper.

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Comment posted by samkiller42 on Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:42 pm

 

Wow, love the first first picture you've shown with the Voyager sweeping around, and is great to see super elevation too, as it's something you don't see all to often in my opinion.

Anyway, keep the shots comming.

 

Sam

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??? posted on Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:36 pm

 

Hello to everyone. Another little update.

 

As previously mentioned, I'm interested in the operational side of railways and always intended running Foxfield Tunnel as part of a 'real' railway (NWM). After spending quite some time devising a complete (about 80% done) fictional Working TimeTable for the line from Maybank to North Midland Jnc (jnc situated to the north of Norton), I turned to the traction diagrams. It was OK having the timetable in place but I also needed to ensure that the trains were there too! Below is a diagram for one of the Norton based 158's (this plus other units are outbased at Whitminster carriage servicing depot).

 

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158783 on 2M12 1611 Salford Bridge to Maybank stopper.

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NWM Diagram NT805

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Thought I'd link some vids that I'm slowly putting on Youtube.

 

 

Enjoy

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Comment posted by adamkellymoderngauge on Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:20 am

 

I love the simplicity and open landscape, Modern N gauge is the way forward. Reminds me of the Pennine express route towards penistone.

 

Superb

 

Adam

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Comment posted by jongwinnett on Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:27 am

 

Just wanted to add my voice to the chorus of approval. This is simply stunning...

 

I particularly liked the fact the tunnel was dark inside - a real sense of cutting through the earth, not a model plonked on a table top. I must also revise my opinion to the woodland scenics risers - I had (clearly quite wrongly) dismissed them as toy like, but this is a superbly realised model.

 

Bravo!

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Comment posted by Clay Country on Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:19 am

 

Just caught up with this thread, absolutely stunning layout http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/icon_clap.gif The snow is really effective and gives a very different feel to all the summertime layouts out there!

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Comment posted by James on Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:59 am

 

SPAD wrote:

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I like that! I like to see staff modelled and the groups you've got them in look just right to me http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

 

The whole scene looks very convincing; winter's not often modelled and it seems when it is there's three foot of snow on the ground! The scene looks mid mroning to me; not quite sure why but it has a feeling of an overcast morning with fresh frost on the ground. THe sort of morning where you can't feel your feet by lunchtime!

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Comment posted by 30-something on Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:46 am

 

Fantastic! I love this layout, the quality of the latest releases layouts like yours have started me slowly stockpiling stock for a future N project (mid 80's WCML based with a container terminal as the main feature)

 

Keep up the good work and I look forward to seeing more photos!

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??? posted on Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:09 am

 

James wrote:

SPAD wrote:

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I like that! I like to see staff modelled and the groups you've got them in look just right to me http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

 

The whole scene looks very convincing; winter's not often modelled and it seems when it is there's three foot of snow on the ground! The scene looks mid mroning to me; not quite sure why but it has a feeling of an overcast morning with fresh frost on the ground. THe sort of morning where you can't feel your feet by lunchtime!

I love your description of the winter landscape, sounds just right to me. I know what you meen about the 'overdoing' of snow. Whilst that looks OK for some, I still wanted to be able to see the dead grass just lying underneath the thin layer of snow and the sprawling patches of bramble and gorse (gorse and some bramble being evergreen hence the green), all the usual types of vegetation you see along our railway lines. The workmen are there due to some replacement track laying going on just beyond the road bridge. Still got to find the ever-present white Transit van to go with them http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

 

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220023 Mancunian Voyager on the 0840 Reading to Manchester Picc via Salford Bridge. Next stop Whitminster.

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??? posted on Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:31 am

 

jongwinnett wrote:

Just wanted to add my voice to the chorus of approval. This is simply stunning...

 

I particularly liked the fact the tunnel was dark inside - a real sense of cutting through the earth, not a model plonked on a table top. I must also revise my opinion to the woodland scenics risers - I had (clearly quite wrongly) dismissed them as toy like, but this is a superbly realised model.

 

Bravo!

Many thanks for your comments. The woodland scenic risers for me were the only option for the job in hand. Really easy to use, set them down to any shape you want and most important for me, the realistic gentle incline you achieve http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/icon_thumbsup2.gif I think I would of found it very hard to get that look using any other method. Once all the landscaping's in place you wouldn't know they were their http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

 

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220019 Mersey Voyager on the 1M14 0940 Reading to Maybank via Salford Bridge.

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Comment posted by jongwinnett on Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:41 am

 

Cheers SPAD

 

I liked one of the earlier shots so much its now my wallpaper on my computer!

 

I've succumbed to the N gauge bug and have purchased a pair of Dapol 156s which are whirring round in circles on the dining room table as we speak. Of to Hobbycraft for supplies for a little test dio this afternoon...

 

15 Years ago I was modelling in 7mm. At this rate, but the time I'm 55 i'll be doing T gauge.

 

Does this BVE thing (never heard of it before this thread) have other fictional networks?

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??? posted on Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:28 am

 

jongwinnett wrote:

Cheers SPAD

 

I liked one of the earlier shots so much its now my wallpaper on my computer!

 

I've succumbed to the N gauge bug and have purchased a pair of Dapol 156s which are whirring round in circles on the dining room table as we speak. Of to Hobbycraft for supplies for a little test dio this afternoon...

 

15 Years ago I was modelling in 7mm. At this rate, but the time I'm 55 i'll be doing T gauge.

 

Does this BVE thing (never heard of it before this thread) have other fictional networks?

Wow, one of my shots as your wallpaper, I'm honoured http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif Cant wait for the Dapol 156 in Central livery. Be very much at home at Foxfield Tunnel. Already got some diagrams set out for it.

BVE is fantastic, so addictive. Click this link and it will take you TrainSimCentral's home page. There you'll find Maybank and many more sims for you to download, plus its all freeware http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/icon_thumbsup2.gif http://www.trainsimcentral.co.uk

 

Regards

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Comment posted by jongwinnett on Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:10 pm

 

Thanks SPAD - I've checked it out and it looks very interesting. Must see if there's a Scotrail version http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

 

Any chance of a plan of your layout? I've read your description but am having difficulty visualising the scenic set up as part of the U. How sharp are your hidden curves?

 

Cheers,

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Comment posted by ajdown on Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:34 pm

 

Very nice indeed. It's very rare to see a layout based out in the countryside, no station or anything. It's very inspiring in many ways, and I wish I had space for another layout at the moment - because if I did, this is what I'd steal ideas from.

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??? posted on Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:21 pm

 

jongwinnett wrote:

Thanks SPAD - I've checked it out and it looks very interesting. Must see if there's a Scotrail version http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

 

Any chance of a plan of your layout? I've read your description but am having difficulty visualising the scenic set up as part of the U. How sharp are your hidden curves?

 

Cheers,

Done you a quick trackplan, apologies for the quality but I hope it gives you an idea of the set up. Never drew out a proper trackplan for Foxfield Tunnel, just made it up as I went along so-to-speak. The hidden curves at either end are not too sharp, the worst one being on the right hand side. Some behind the scenes shots (probably the only ones http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif) which I hope gives you some sort of impression.

 

 

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Right hand side hidden curve.

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Right hand side hidden curve.

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Left hand side hidden curve which runs underneath Foxfield Tunnel.

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Left hand side hidden curve.

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Used to be one or two Scotrail sims but on having a quick look around, it seems they've vanished http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/icon_what.gif

Thanks for your interest,

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Comment posted by jongwinnett on Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:54 pm

 

Thanks (again!) SPAd

 

Very interesting - makes sense now. Being new to N I'm still getting a feel for what one can get away with - my test circle is Peco third radius (11.25" I think) but that's too tight for the 156 to be close coupled it seems.

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??? posted on Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:10 pm

 

jongwinnett wrote:

Thanks (again!) SPAd

 

Very interesting - makes sense now. Being new to N I'm still getting a feel for what one can get away with - my test circle is Peco third radius (11.25" I think) but that's too tight for the 156 to be close coupled it seems.

Been hearing some mixed reports about the 156 and tight curves/points etc. I still can't wait to get my hands on that Central set. Just out of interest, before I enbarked on Foxfield Tunnel and with the imminent release of the Dapol 156, I almost built a replica of East Kilbride station, well either that or Paisley Canal Station. Both would of made great mini layouts and ideal for those SPT 156's. Oh well, who knows whats around the corner http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

 

cheers,

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Comment posted by jongwinnett on Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:49 pm

 

Don't get me wrong - 156 runs well. The issue seems to be if you use the matching extended corridor connectors together on tight curves - use one short one long and there seem to be no problems. (Just not so good on the straights). I think even slightly larger curves would eliminate the problem completely - don't (yet) have the ability to test this theory - but what happens is the end throw of the coach causes the corridor connections to pass each other - giving an effect akin to buffer locking. It only happened enough to derail once during an hour's running in though - the other 80 or so laps it just was a wee catch and lurch ???‚¬??? as the unit transitioned from a short straight to curve or vice versa. Some attention to the edges of the corridor connector with a sanding stick might reduce or diminish the catching effect too.

 

On the other hand, the lights are superb!

 

May be going off topic - sorry!

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??? posted on Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:11 pm

 

jongwinnett wrote:

Don't get me wrong - 156 runs well. The issue seems to be if you use the matching extended corridor connectors together on tight curves - use one short one long and there seem to be no problems. (Just not so good on the straights). I think even slightly larger curves would eliminate the problem completely - don't (yet) have the ability to test this theory - but what happens is the end throw of the coach causes the corridor connections to pass each other - giving an effect akin to buffer locking. It only happened enough to derail once during an hour's running in though - the other 80 or so laps it just was a wee catch and lurch ???‚¬??? as the unit transitioned from a short straight to curve or vice versa. Some attention to the edges of the corridor connector with a sanding stick might reduce or diminish the catching effect too.

 

On the other hand, the lights are superb!

 

May be going off topic - sorry!

Hey, no probs. Thanks for the info.

Cheers

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??? posted on Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:40 pm

 

Another update.... http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/icon_thumbsup2.gif

 

On the NWM route there's a number of diagrams for 170 DMU's. Only one diagram brings that class onto the Salford Bridge loop.....

 

 

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170 513 on 2M06 11 11 Salford Bridge to Maybank.. Next stop Steelhouse Lane.

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Diagram NT701.

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Soon to be attempting to re-livery a 170 into Central (ex Midland Mainline) colours, adding working headlights too. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif

 

Another little vid uploaded....

 

 

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170 513 on 2M07 12 42 Radley Jnc to Maybank stopper.

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Something a little different.. Here we see 57 301 Scott Tracey on 0M05 06 05 Norton to Maybank, Maybank Thunderbird. The 57 runs via Salford Bridge for route knowledge purposes, then sits in Maybank sidings until required.

 

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Comment posted by agentskj on Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:35 pm

 

Love the layout are you going to put it on the exhqbvtion circuit

 

How do the e*n guage stuff run its been years since i have done this scale makes a return pretty tempting

 

How do you do the snow effect

 

Sam

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??? posted on Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:33 pm

 

agentskj wrote:

Love the layout are you going to put it on the exhqbvtion circuit

 

How do the e*n guage stuff run its been years since i have done this scale makes a return pretty tempting

 

How do you do the snow effect

 

Sam

Hello Sam. Thanks for your interest.

 

Fixed layout unfortunately, so no exhibitions. Never thought it would ever make the grade for exhibiting.

 

These days N gauge manufacturers are really pulling all the stops out with there latest releases. Real good running qualities, easier DCC fitting, working headlights and excellent body mouldings and finishes. Well worth the plunge if your considering it, also the obvious benifit of getting more railway in a smaller space.

 

The snow used is made by Woodland Scenics. Once the under growth was laid and set down, the snow was lightly sprinkled on top. I only wanted a light dusting so I could still see the winter grass underneath. I decided not to glue the snow down as I wasn't sure if I would like it at first. If I wanted too I could easily vaccum it off. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

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