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Hi Iain, no I haven't read that one. Sounds like something I should put on my wishlist - I certainly will, thanks! Yes I think those houses would make a good backdrop to the sidings. Job's comment reminded me of a photoshopped mock-up I did some time ago, which might be worth considering further: I've also found a couple of other buildings that I'd like to include - a long stable block and a loading shed for the private siding. That's one of the fun bits about modelling a fictional location, I think: You can select bits and pieces from around the system and put them together in one :-)

Thanks for the mention! Hope you find a new place soon, meantime, as others have said, keep up the great work. By the way...it's amazing how small micro layouts can take over your life so probably good to keep with rolling stock until you are settled again...

I've just dug out my 4mm one from the queue at the back of the works where it is awaiting regauging and finishing... The tender footplate is 30.6mm wide, the narrow plate on the loco is 29.0mm wide and the wide plate (still in the etch, so difficult to get the calipers in for an exact measurement, is 30.5ish. So, the wider loco width matches Templer's 7'8" in Russell's Fig 219, and the tender is the same width. The narrow loco is about 7'3". With a cab width of about 5.9", any tender is going to look wide except, perhaps, the Armstrong types that many had in their early days. Nick edit: forgot to add my conclusion that the tender as we've both built it will be fine with the wide footplate engine, though it does look a bit odd with my narrow engine. The flared part that we removed is, I think, only appropriate for use with the later and wider 4-4-0s which had 8'3" footplates. This is where the "outrigger" handrails come in. Another point I forgot earlier was that the coal rails were half round section. I managed to get some suitable brass section (Eileen's IIRC) when I built my Buffalo and it does look much better than the flat etch on the Finney tender.

Very nice indeed Jeremy. Those Farish mouldings are a big improvement on the old ones but the detail you're adding looks very worthwhile. I'm waiting for the new Farish 37/4 and 37/5 to come out before I increase my fleet size of St Blazey tractors, but in the meantime I've seen enough good lowered examples now to turn my hand to one of the older Poole models to get my eye in...

If you've chosen a narrow-footplate tender, Dave, then you'll need a narrow-footplate loco. There are four combinations: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/gallery/image/49319-tender-loco-widths/ The last of these is extremely rare, so rare I think that it can be discounted in most cases. If you've cut your tender footplate narrow, but still want a wide-footplate loco, you should add shaping bits (on the prototype, I think they were added on top of the footplate) to the front of the tender footplate to match that of the loco. There is a drawing or two in Russell I believe to show this shape: it's an S-bend. In these cases, the front tender handrails are usually* shaped differently to the all-narrow-footplate ones, and came down onto the shaped footplate pieces - I call these 'outrigger' handrails. If your pic of 2467 shows a tender footplate whose entire length is the same width as the loco footplate, then that tender will be a 'all-wide' footplate one. All-wide tenders have a very different 'look' to the narrow-footplate ones. P.S. Don't know why my gif above has appeared so small. This software is so flaky! Subsequent edit/addition: The best known example of what I call 'outrigger' handrails is probably City of Truro. It can be seen that its 3000g tender footplate is a full-length wide one, and that the footplate width matches that of the standard 4-4-0 8'3" footplate width: http://www.shirleylateknights.co.uk/mainfiles/event_reports/Event_reports_2008-09/pictures/birdlip_12.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-r_8m_FaVVBs/Tk_JrPmrBAI/AAAAAAAAAWc/EHZEUDRuUZE/s1600/3440+city+of+truro#1.jpg http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/050/8/e/city_of_truro_at_svr_highley_by_ragnarokeotw-d2zlhn4.jpg http://thehobbyshop.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/10.jpg This Bulldog tender is fitted with outriggers on a tender whose footplate has the shaped curve extending to the loco footplate width (or closely thereabouts) but the rest of the tender fooplate is otherwise narrow: http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/gwrkd117.htm Similarly, a Duke: http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/gwrkd111.htm * The situation on Dean Goods is not nearly so clear, particularly for pre-WWI condition. Here's some narrow and wide loco footplates (I think the changeover was from 2380??), and none of their tenders have outrigger handrails - the first pic (a Bill Kenning pic at Slough c 1921) is perhaps the best visual of wide footplates on both loco and tender: http://www.adrianvaughan.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/slough-propel-ECS-copy.jpg http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/gwrls823.htm (2347) http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/gwrbsh55.htm (2309) http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/gwrkd1631.htm (2410) http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/gwrkd1634.htm (2510) http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/gwrwm415.htm (2439) http://www.adrianvaughan.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/2580.Slough-c1921-copy.jpg (2580) http://www.adrianvaughan.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/2579-copy.jpg (2579) http://www.adrianvaughan.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/2386.Ken_.-Jc.c1914-copy.jpg (2386) I can't find an online pic of a Dean Goods with a shaped piece at the front of the tender footplate, and maybe they didn't get them until they started to inherit more of the standard 3000g tenders as they became displaced from larger locos. I suggest Dave you measure what your tender footplate width currently is, and see if it matches the width of a wide-footplate loco. I can't explain your 2467 pic, because it does feel like a 'narrow' tender, but from a side-on angle, it's impossible to tell what the join is like between tender footplate front and loco footplate rear. See also Nick's 2500g narrow-footplate tender and narrow-footplate loco.

Oh that is simply beautiful. The tank filler alone is almost a work of art. The rivets really do the trick. Glad it will be with a round-topped firebox. The later ones might have been more effective, but they did ruin the looks of many Dean and Armstrong locos a bit. If we say that we are very disappointed about the goods shed being put on the backburner, would that help? ;-)