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  1. I suppose that the problem with forum post is that the mildly tongue-in-cheek remarks don't always get read as such [sigh]. Nearholmer, you have my attention. A less ambitious alternative to Addison Road is clearly worth investigation.
  2. John, I assume you mean there is a problem with the term "pre-grouping", not with the pre-1923 era! Consider, the overwhelmingly dominant era to model is the '50s-'60s, a fact likely to change only in favour of the '70s-'80s. Grouping is well within the realm of historic railway modelling. Late Grouping is fairly accessible, due to the, frankly, co-incidental ability to use stuff produced for the BRmodeller. Anything before, say, 1935, is quite difficult. Trust me on this as one who is working his way through a list of 125 or so coaches intended to represent the South Devon mainline in the mid-'30s. Not a single Great Western vehicle required is available RTR to a reasonable standard - that will remain the case until the new Hornby Colletts arrive. Pre-groupers get a single section in this vast RMWeb forum, presumably, because that is all the level of interest warrants. Given that, I have no problem including anything from 1825 to 1923 - the most interesting railway century! As to terminology, all era definitions are for convenience and can be helpfully descriptive, but he danger is that they become too rigid and, therefore, any utility they had quickly becomes lost. One of my, I hope few, pet hates is Bachmann's adherence to the stupid era system, which achieves no more than confusion as to what in the catalogue can run with what. I have a pet theory that the system was invented by German manufacturers so as not to have to mention the war or certain grimly resonant dates. I could be wrong, of course!
  3. It appears to be a static display. A considerable challenge in producing a working model of this period (I am guessing its no later than early 1830s) is the working of passenger, and some mineral trains, by horse traction. Another feature that you would not find on a layout is the use of cards identifying the various places and features, which, of course, is pretty essential in the museum context. It's a lovely model and I could look at it all day. From left to right it takes your from the coal pits (including a rope worked incline) to the coal ships, so it tells the story and illustrates the rationale of the line. It was, frankly, refreshing and inspiring to see models representing this early scene. It made me want a similar, working, model, probably set slightly later, in the 1840s with the, then, new North Road station (1842) (which houses the museum), and a model of the locomotive Derwent (1845) (which is in the museum) and some of the passenger coaches of the same period. At least on RMWeb we have the considerable pleasure of Cornamuse's Gainford Spa, which is, I believe, set in the 1860s, and features a version of North Road station building and all those good north eastern things such as coal/lime drops, and chaldron wagons. I do recommend the museum. It is not a huge place, but very informative and set in a lovely structure. The former train shed houses just 4 locomotives: Locomotion (yes, the original No.1), Derwent, A Tenant 2-4-0 of 1885 (which is simply stunning), and a Q7 0-8-0 of 1919.
  4. My poor wife had to adopt a gluten free diet. The one, considerable, silver lining was her giving up Marmite! Each to his own, however. What a great metaphor for finescale standards; enjoy yours by all means, but don't shove it down my throat!
  5. It's generally non-fatal if they don't breath on you afterwards. Accidentally kissing them, that's the real killer. Survivors say they can never quite lose the after-taste. Dreadful.
  6. As, in the North-East, Grouping appears to have occurred as early as the 1860s, I guess this is a pre-grouping layout! It's the Darlington club's model of the Stockton & Darlington at the Head of Steam museum, Darlington. I will add my voice to that of Cornamuse of this parish in praise of this museum. Note the Dandy Carts in which the horses rested(!) whilst gravity took over!
  7. Nice to know that there is still someone out there to make those sweeping generalisations we all know an love, thanks MIB. You've not met the wife, I take it?
  8. In the '30s 3150s used to hang about Totnes Goods Shed between turns, judging from several photographs in which they are to be spotted. What I wonder about is shunting the Quay Branch. It was loco shunted up to a point, after which horses took over. Did the locos from the trip goods do this, or did they take advantage of the apparently regular presence of the bankers?
  9. Rob, Well, I don't know what formations are accurate for 1947; I had assumed that all your formations were accurate and I am shocked, shocked, I say, at the suggestion this is not so! I just tick the pictures of your stunning layout, particularly when graced with Swindon's finest in their native liveries.
  10. I really don't think all this talk of water columns is really helping those concerned with incontinence. Just because its on topic for a change is no excuse such a lack of consideration! Flush. Gurgle. Drip, drip. Splash. I have the Mike's Models water columns, and never questioned their fidelity or quality - are they old hat these days, do either of the more recent offerings represent an improvement?
  11. And there was a sign on the shop saying "Spar"
  12. Indeed. Above all, I find that I am driven by a curiosity about how it all looked back then, and the challenge of seeing if the appearance of the past can be captured.
  13. I suspect a K40 would be more use than a K38, though the Ocean Mails branding has always made this a popular subject. Cracking model, however. The world was a better place when everything was lined out!
  14. Yes, and generally they are labelled "as preserved" by the manufacturer, though the Bachmann Cities, and the Bulleids you mention, are perhaps misleading. It would help if reviewers could specify whether a model of a preserved locomotive is only good for representing the preserved state. I like to visit preserved lines, and I like to model historic railway subjects, because, frankly, it's a way to inhabit the past. If I modelled preserved lines, that would be to model other people living in the past, which is not the same thing! So, one of the umber E4's will work for me, but the other will not.
  15. King William IV special edition - Is this not the old Hornby King with a flash new paint job, rather than the forthcoming re-tooled version? If it is the old King, it is yet more mutton dressed up as lamb and somewhat cheekily priced, or, rather, perhaps it is the last flogging of a long dead horse. If collectors buy this, instead of waiting for the new Kings from Hornby and Hatton, it vindicates every doubt I have ever had concerning their intelligence and powers of discernment.
  16. Late to this party, but I wanted to register my unqualified enthusiasm for this release. Aside from the dearth of small RTR industrials (how many times have the 9 L&Y Pugs sold off by the LMS been forced to appear on layouts as a result?!?), this is a pre-grouping era design. For me, a late Victorian design is perfect, and, potentially, it answers a need that will not be met by DJH (without much hacking) whose own small industrial has a post WW1 cab design. I hope the Hornby model will be capable of representing the class near the start of its career.
  17. One of the problems for those coming at the hobby/pre-grouping with growing, but still limited, knowledge, is the difficulty in distinguishing between pre-grouping liveried RTR models that represent the locomotive's pre-grouping career, and those that represent only its preserved incarnation. I'm afraid the rule must be to research the proto-type class before you buy. My some what scanty recollection of Russell's SR locomotive book and the odd comment picked up here and there led me to conclude that the 'Birchgrove' model represented only the preserved state, but I wanted, and was grateful for, confirmation. I could easily have assumed that the preservers were historically correct and, therefore, purchased a useless, if beautiful, model. Take, for example, the City of Truro. Indian Red frames plus a top-feed are, I suspect, only correct for the preserved history. This has not stopped Bachmann selling other pre-1906 Cities with a top feed. I suspect the Midland Compound No. 1000 with the long tender is another example. I believe that the T9 No.120 did not run in LSWR livery (even Urie livery) in her rebuilt state before 1962. What about the GNR Atlantic? There is a livery error (the top of the splashers) but other than that, with my limited knowledge, I could not identify any difference between her preserved appearance and her in-service appearance in GNR days. The Stirling Single at least will allow you to run the locomotive in a number of eras, depending on your tender choice, though I would prefer one with closed in splashers to represent the class in its last years of GNR service.
  18. Best justification for being a useless debauched slob anyone has ever conceived
  19. Can't see "O2" without hearing it spoken with a Sheffield accent. Can't think why. Great model. Nicer in lined olive green, though (even nicer in Drummond livery, but I suspect I can whistle for that!).
  20. And I thought that Captain Blackadder attended the University of Life. Or am I confusing real life with something not real life? Never quite sure. Anyway, as everyone knows, the two greatest universities in the land are Cambridge and University College Wales, Aberystwyth, though I am sure that Hull is also excellent.
  21. Captain Blackadder: "I then leapt on the opportunity to test you. I asked if he had been to one of the great universities, Oxford, Cambridge, or Hull" Nurse Mary: "Well?" Captain Bladder: "You failed to spot that only two of those are great universities" Nurse Mary: "Swine!" General Melchett: "That's right! Oxford's a complete dump!"
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