w124bob Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Back in April 2014 I posted this thread http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/84363-bt-metals-freightcar-fleet-and-sullivan-scrap-loads/ ,it only seems like last week! Anyway I have now got round to doing the empties, or more precisely, whats left in the bottom. A chance purchase of a set Derwent Charcoal XL size set the ball rolling, hidden is a small red ochre as well. Next I needed some scrap, so looking around(mostly on the floor)came up with a few bits. Swarf from lathe turnings is the main source plus very small bits of chopped up wire, card, the left over bits from decals, pie tinfoil, plasticard and strip, coloured thread from gift tags. Add a very small amount of sand then mix in various charcoals, you end with something looking like this The interiors got a good mix of Humbrol 62 Tan(or sometimes referred to as Leather) and 32 dark gray, then using an emery board or old coarse file add the charcoal This is one with the paint now dry(next day) and the dust in the bottom, using an old brush just work in the surface, then shake out the surplus for the next job. If you want a heavy coating of mess I use a slightly dilute wood glue on the bottom and in the corners. For less mess I use superglue just blobbed about. Another Finally 3 side on shots of various Gons, Intermountain redone as EAMX(Sullivan fleet), Plus Atlas and Roundhouse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supaned Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 top job there - cheers for the tutorial Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Thanks for this. I've got a lot of these to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted January 15, 2017 Author Share Posted January 15, 2017 Total fleet is 21 with Atlas coalveyor being the most numerous plus Roundhouse Thrall coming in 2nd. One type of car occasionally used are those large 60ft ex woodchip gons for lighter weight scrap,(and domestic rubbish for landfill). I was lucky to have access to a friends lathe waste, brass and alloy mixed. The brass waste tends to be more brittle, so the longer curly bits can be crunched up. I'm looking at dried used tea for something akin to that very fine rust waste seen in some cars. I did have a tub of rusted steel wool(it was intended) which was almost powder after 12 months in the shed, used very sparingly away from motors it is good for rusty bottoms! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted January 16, 2017 Author Share Posted January 16, 2017 Chanced upon this http://www.railmover.com/store/v/Freight+Cars/WC+Gondolas+for+lease.jpg.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Chanced upon this http://www.railmover.com/store/v/Freight+Cars/WC+Gondolas+for+lease.jpg.html WC Gondolas for lease.jpg I would say that's not a scrap gon. It looks more like what we see here carrying coal or sulphur - some bulk cargo that doesn't need to be kept dry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 It would have been built for that kind of service, but these cars have more recently been used for scrap metal service. Many 1960s/70s built steel gons built for coal and other bulk services like Sulphur are now in other services, including scrap metal service, replaced by larger capacity aluminium gons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor quinn Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Useful shot of the inside of a steel gondola - bear in mind that the car in the picture is up for sale and will have been cleaned out. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1905 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I have made scrap by painting aluminum foil with a variety of spray can paints, just randomly splotch it with different colors. Rip it into chunks and put it in an OLD, stressing OLD, blender with some water and blend it. When dry it makes good shredded metal. It can be weathered with sprays, and powders. I have also put steel wool into water with a little vinegar and let it sit for a day or two to make a rust solution to color the ground in the scrap yard. Just keep it away from the track, not sure on how the acid will affect the rails or whether it will be conductive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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