class37418stag Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Hello everyone I believe Network southeast class 47 been running up to north and Scotland By which number and been arrived whereabouts of northern and Scotland And which hauled freight or passenger duties Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Just a few weeks after the livery was revealed I managed to see one Class 47 between Glasgow Central and Carlisle There would then be one almost every month Again, when the revised livery was revealed it was just a few weeks before one also appeared on the same route In 1990 I saw my first Class 47 in revised NSE in Aberdeen 47702 also spent several weeks in revised NSE livery throughout Scotland in August 1990, after overhaul and still being required in Scotland 47596 also operated between Edinburgh and Inverness / Aberdeen in the week August 1991 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class37418stag Posted April 21, 2017 Author Share Posted April 21, 2017 Class 47583 NSE been running to Inverness from Edinburgh or Aberdeen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Have a look for some photos https://www.flickr.com/photos/roddymacphee/13799100305/in/photolist-n2nZLv https://www.flickr.com/photos/roddymacphee/14832649138/in/photolist-oAHcPY-oAH931 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 I had 47583 to Stranraer during April 1988, it stayed around for a few days taking in Glasgow, Carlisle and Leeds. Pictured at Stranraer with the 1826 arrival from Euston. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welly Posted April 22, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 22, 2017 I saw the NSE liveried 86401 leave Glasgow Central hauling the Travelling Post Office to London around 1991. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 (edited) I had 47583 to Stranraer during April 1988, it stayed around for a few days taking in Glasgow, Carlisle and Leeds. Pictured at Stranraer with the 1826 arrival from Euston.I believe this was the second Class 47 in NSE to appear in Glasgow Central, April 1988 seems about right Sadly beaten by 47573 the previous month Edited April 22, 2017 by mjkerr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 I saw the NSE liveried 86401 leave Glasgow Central hauling the Travelling Post Office to London around 1991.I overlooked 86401 (as the OP was after Class 47) It was great seeing it the first time at Glasgow Central, but seeing week in week out was boring! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted April 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 26, 2017 I've recently bought the Graham Farish "Capital Connection" set which has included in it, 47581 as I'm interested in the NSE but I'm also interested in the S&C and modelling Ais Gill, albeit prior to the removal of the two refuse sidings and signal box. I would love to know if NSE liveried Class 47's travelled "up north" on a regular basis? Also tongue-in-cheek, did the coaching stock ever creep up there from time to time? Julian Sprott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenman Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Just passed through Downham Market station which has been redecorated in NSE colours, with full, brand-new NSE platform signage. Very mysterious. But nice to see. Paul 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Rather like the "restoration" of Kings Lynn (of which I posted pics on RMWeb) a couple of years ago, in early BR style? Sounds rather tasty though. And aren't Bachmann doing the signal box in similar style? I shall have to pop over to have a look. Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 I believe this was the second Class 47 in NSE to appear in Glasgow Central, April 1988 seems about right Sadly beaten by 47573 the previous month I have just dug out my old "moves" book from 1988 and 47583 appears to have been on at least the following trains. 18-04-88 1352 Carlisle-Glasgow central 19-04-88 1013 Glasgow-Carlisle, 1430 Carlisle-Stranraer and 2240 Stranraer-Carlisle. 20-04-88 0424 Carlisle-Glasgow, 0823 Glasgow-Stranraer, 1425 Stranraer-Glasgow and 2153 Glasgow-Stranraer 21-04-88 0700 Stranraer-Glasgow 23-04-88 1237 Carlisle-Leeds and 1625 return. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 I've recently bought the Graham Farish "Capital Connection" set which has included in it, 47581 as I'm interested in the NSE but I'm also interested in the S&C and modelling Ais Gill, albeit prior to the removal of the two refuse sidings and signal box. I would love to know if NSE liveried Class 47's travelled "up north" on a regular basis? Also tongue-in-cheek, did the coaching stock ever creep up there from time to time?As per reply #2, at least one Class 47 in NSE would appear each month As per reply #12, this shows how most appeared in Scotland Equally, sometimes a loco would appear on Leeds - Carlisle, never to venture any further north Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy stroud Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 I have just dug out my old "moves" book from 1988 and 47583 appears to have been on at least the following trains. 18-04-88 1352 Carlisle-Glasgow central 19-04-88 1013 Glasgow-Carlisle, 1430 Carlisle-Stranraer and 2240 Stranraer-Carlisle. 20-04-88 0424 Carlisle-Glasgow, 0823 Glasgow-Stranraer, 1425 Stranraer-Glasgow and 2153 Glasgow-Stranraer 21-04-88 0700 Stranraer-Glasgow 23-04-88 1237 Carlisle-Leeds and 1625 return. The run over the Settle Carlisle on 23 April 88 was the same day as the Fellsman 2 railtour which went southbound over the S&C, hauled by 50 024 and 50 050 both in NSE. I was on the railtour and remember seeing the 47 hauled train which was blue/grey stock. Evening Star was also out the same day. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LU_fan Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 I'm sorry for digging up an old topic, and I apologise if this post doesn't belong here, but I really don't think it needs its own thread. How long did NSE use Mk1 coaches? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Someone else might know better, but I'm guessing it could be narrowed down when the stock was replaced on the services it was used. If I remember correctly was the Euston to Northampton Cobblers not Mk1s before the Class 321s replaced them and the Thames Valley commuters from Paddington to Oxford before Class 165/166s took over those. So I'd suspect it'd be until around 1990 without having a Platform 5 book from the era Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LU_fan Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 (edited) Oh, so they weren't even used in InterCity services at the end? I'm trying to decide what part of the NSE history I want to collect. Edited June 18, 2018 by LU_fan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Someone else might know better, but I'm guessing it could be narrowed down when the stock was replaced on the services it was used. If I remember correctly was the Euston to Northampton Cobblers not Mk1s before the Class 321s replaced them and the Thames Valley commuters from Paddington to Oxford before Class 165/166s took over those. So I'd suspect it'd be until around 1990 without having a Platform 5 book from the era The Mk 1s didn't generally disappear overnight - it would have been a gradual take-over by Mk 2s in most cases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisH-UK Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 The Mk 1s didn't generally disappear overnight - it would have been a gradual take-over by Mk 2s in most cases. Fair point in the general history of the Mk1s but in the case of the Cobblers the takeover wasn't really gradual, Thames Valley services were more gradual and saw Mk1 running alongside Mk2 until there were enough 166 units available but that wasn't until at least late 1991 Most of the coaches from the cobbler sets were sent to Old Oak and most of Old Oak's corridor second coaches went to Edge Hill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 (edited) Fair point in the general history of the Mk1s but in the case of the Cobblers the takeover wasn't really gradual, Thames Valley services were more gradual and saw Mk1 running alongside Mk2 until there were enough 166 units available but that wasn't until at least late 1991 Most of the coaches from the cobbler sets were sent to Old Oak and most of Old Oak's corridor second coaches went to Edge Hill. I bow to your superior knowledge of 'North of Thames' NSE loco haulage ...... I'm more familiar with the Exeters - but loco haulage in my own neck of the woods was restricted to 'Arrer' and Night Ferry though I do recall a regular ( once a weekday ) East Grinstead commuter service : probably Mk 1s with an early Mk 2 FK ( successor to the 7TC ! ). Sorry - 7TC not 6TC : that was a different beast ! Edited June 19, 2018 by Wickham Green Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted June 18, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 18, 2018 Someone else might know better, but I'm guessing it could be narrowed down when the stock was replaced on the services it was used. If I remember correctly was the Euston to Northampton Cobblers not Mk1s before the Class 321s replaced them and the Thames Valley commuters from Paddington to Oxford before Class 165/166s took over those. So I'd suspect it'd be until around 1990 without having a Platform 5 book from the era Yes, the mk1 cobbler sets were finally replaced by 321's in early 1990, and I believe they did go to OO. The transition from blue & grey to NSE took place over about 2 years-by sometime in 1988 I think all 5 rakes were NSE. NSE liveried 86401 was surprisingly rare on them though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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