skippy325 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Firstly Happy New Year to all! Does anyone have any pics/memories of the Thame - Hoo Junction oil empties that used to run behind HG Class 33's? I know the services were always formed of 100t TEA's but what version of BP livery did they carry? I'm assuming all over Black with the BP logo at one end (as Bachmann do) but as they were always so filthy none of my photos are much help! Many thanks in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 I have seen a pic of a 33/2 at thame with 100t tankers.They were just grey with fairly all over oil streaking. I don't think that they were the black ones though as I'm sure black is used for crude oil only not refined products. For the later 80s there is a video on youtube (try typing in last oil train from thame in the search) showing some tankers which may be of help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 I have seen a pic of a 33/2 at thame with 100t tankers.They were just grey with fairly all over oil streaking. I don't think that they were the black ones though as I'm sure black is used for crude oil only not refined products. For the later 80s there is a video on youtube (try typing in last oil train from thame in the search) showing some tankers which may be of help. Black is NOT for crude oil, but for Class B products. These are products that have a relatively low flashpoint, ranging in viscosity from diesel, through light and heavy fuel oils to bitumen. The less viscous products are conveyed in lagged tanks, normally with heating pipes or tubes. Diesel and light fuel oils are the sort of things that might be received by a depot like Thame; the other, heavier, fractions would go to specialist terminals. Crude oil, which is a mixture of different fractions, is relatively volatile, and thus should be conveyed in tanks displaying the Class A (Dove Grey) livery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 I stand corrected,thanks FC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Picture below of the Thame tanks showing black un's and a 4 wheeler thrown in for good measure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 The black tanks, which would be carrying heating oil to somewhere like Thame, would be more in evidence over autumn and winter, when demand for the product is greater. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefreight Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 The black tanks, which would be carrying heating oil to somewhere like Thame, would be more in evidence over autumn and winter, when demand for the product is greater. Thame used to receive fuel oil (in class B tanks); gas oil and kerosene (carried in either class A or Class B tanks; strictly speaking these are class B products but as they are not particularly viscous, and with so many class A tanks around, they would often be loaded in such); and motor spirit. Mixed trains both in terms of commodities and bogie and 2-axle wagons were quite common with more motor spirit carried in the summer months as against heating fuel in the winter. David R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippy325 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 Well here we are two years on and I'm just logging back on to say thanks very much for everyone's input and advice! Really helpful thanks! Better late than never I guess! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torr Giffard LSWR 1951-71 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Skippy, I would attempt to track down a copy of Traction magazine July 2002 (Google TEE publishing of Leamington Spa, they should be able to fix you up if you can't locate a copy). The article of interest is 'Chiltern Hardcore freight'. There are colour pics of diesel classes 33, 40 and 52 on class A and B tanks to/from Thame. There is talk of 3 trains a day serving the terminal in the early 80s. Grain, Llandarcy, Stanlow and Thameshaven are listed as supplying the fuels. 7870 is legible as a class B bogie tank on a Stanlow service in 1974. The class A tanks are shown behind a 33 heading initially for Hoo jnc yard. There is a good colour pic of a 33 at West Ruislip on the 09.40 Thame - Hoo jnc, March 1983 in Diesels on the Western Region by Hugh Dady. Mixed class A/B train of 2 and 4 axle tanks. Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Once in the seventies I saw a train of Green tanks with BP markings parked in Risborough station hauled by a 47 ,a member of staff said they had been to Thame ,hope this helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 skippy, check out djipix.com pictures of the 47 being named at Thame, pulling BP tanks identical to the Bachmann ones with stripes. Also 31s on stanlow trains there. One if the best photo resources for chiltern freight I've found Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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