Ray H

Here's my version of a Rail Head Treatment Train having just emerged from the tunnel on the BR track beneath Tingewick Halt.

A slight modification to the way the MDF is secured under the wagon significantly improved the results. I put a couple of black Sharpie marks on the rails near the Westbury platform and they had all but disappeared after just a couple of passes whereas previously the marks had been hardly disturbed after numerous passes.

The MDF pad has some 180 grit abrasive secured on its underneath by double sided tape with the lead edge slightly sloped upwards in an attempt to stop it digging into check rail ends. The wing nuts on the securing bolts have been useful to allow for adjustments in the downward pressure onto the rails.

Although the test runs have been made all over on both the BR & LR tracks, the main use will be on the lower level under Gawcott which is more difficult to reach with a track rubber.

The above loco was recovered from retirement (pending a decision to sell or not) because the previous loco didn't seem to take too kindly to some of the small imperfections in the track and came to a stand (with the previous incarnation of the wagon) with loco wheels spinning round and train going nowhere.

I shall try some of the other locos out before I decide whether or not I need to keep the above loco just for the RHTT!

The shell of Westbury's now smaller station building has been made and awaits its embossed plasticard outer skin.

The first image shows the shell in the area that I imagined it would go and its planned orientation. I've used the hand of God to temporarily tranship Gawcott's station building alongside to (badly) show the similar vertical height/size of the two buildings.

The raised area outside the building is the cover for the nearby point's servo which is causing me to possibly rethink the building's position/orientation.

Image No. 2 shows a more close up picture of the shell and its positioning relative to the barrow/foot crossing part of which can be seen at bottom left in the image. The building shell is in the same position in images 1 & 2.

Image 3 shows the Gawcott station building mounted parallel to the track to give some idea of how things would look at Westbury if I took advantage of one of the 422 Modelmaking building kits. The potential location of the barrow/foot crossing relative to the building can also be seen. I'd envisage a handrail/barrier between the track and the platform side of the building,

Finally we take a look inside the building and can see that the servo cover is now within the building and would probably lose its cover as there's no longer a need to hide the horn.

I'm becoming more and more in favour of this orientation of the building. That said. Westbury's platform is currently about 75cms long for reasons that probably escaped me before I built it. I could shorten it to probably half that size, which would still be long enough for the trains I plan to run. This would allow me to re-position the station building in either orientation and still cover the servo horn with the building.

Watch this space.

Thanks for that. A company that I wasn't aware of until earlier today when I went looking for ready made windows and doors. I was impressed with a couple of the buildings that would certainly have found a home here had it not been for the odd position of the intended model at 90º to the track rather than parallel to it.

I struggled to cut the card down to height and gave up quite quickly once I applied a bit more logic to it and decided that I might as well make a shell to the new dimensions out of 40 thou plasticard as I'm planning to overlay the shell anyway. It might not be as strong as the card shell but I'll add a couple of internal strengtheners to make it a bit more sturdy.

I've even made my own door(s) and windows.

7 hours ago, Adrian Stevenson said:

Cannot see any work being done on the layout now until after Christmas due to visiting family etc. Awaiting the LSWR van from Kernow coming via Royal Mail. 

Cheers, Ade.

The way things are around here, I reckon you might want to revise that "until after Easter. We haven't had any post for 10 days now and from what our Postman said this morning they're not actually delivering much at all.

Thanks. Why didn't I even think of Slaters? Doh!

Lowering it is then, thanks for that Alan.

I've been using the Scalology (I D Backscenes?) adhesive papers which are excellent quality. They don't do the full range in O gauge and I'm outstanding a call back to see if they can upscale at least one of the three roofing tiles sheets that are currently only in N or OO. Unfortunately their range doesn't extend to wood or corrugated iron and I can't find anything similar elsewhere.

I do have some corrugated sheets that I was holding back for the loco shed at Gawcott. Any idea where I can get the wood planking? I tried upscaling a Scalescenes brick paper sheet but that failed miserably.

A tale of two buildings.

I went a bit overboard in orderings several Lcut Creative structures for this layout without doing my homework beforehand. I must add that there's nothing wrong with the goods I bought in the correct place, but a Light Railway setting isn't the right place to my mind. Judging O gauge sizes as a recently ex OO modeller probably also has a bearing on things.

I hadn't appreciated that the products were thick card based, I thought they were (probably) thin MDF. I know you can paint them but I didn't trust my painting skills to do a good job with the brush as I'm too inclined to rush so I'd more or less decided that I was going to overlay adhesive brick papers which is what I'd done with some success with Westbury's water tower.

Westbury's station building was always going to be on the opposite side of the track from the platform, at 90º to the track accessed by a foot crossing from the platform and in the equivalent of low relief with its "back end" at the front edge of the board.

The above image shows it resting where it is intended to go. The white box outside is a cover over a servo horn and will be better disguised eventually. The doors have a fan light over them which I decided to do away with, the patch will be conveniently cover by the brick paper.

The chimney looks over scale to me and more substantial than is probably appropriate. In fact, I think its absence wouldn't be noticed if I left it off.

I started comparing the new building with the Gawcott station building thus:

The (card) building looks overscale for what it is meant to be when compared to the Gawcott one as can be seen equally below when viewed with a Terrier loco alongside.

I haven't made a final decision yet. One idea is to remove most of the infill in the doorway and then cur several rows of bricks off the bottom (or see what happens if I try to remove the roof and take the excess height off the top). Whatever happens, the chimney stack will go. Another option is to scratch build a replacement more in the manner of the Gawcott building. Whatever happens, the arched top of the doors and windows will also go because they seem too fancy for a (skinflint) light railway.

I also bought a coal stage kit from the same source and that too is destined to be made narrower to fit in the available space.

Watch this space.

I only had a single (relatively new) Peco track rubber so I only cut one hole in the floor and tried that. It didn't work, which is probably more down to my accuracy cutting the hole (out of the wooden floor).

I did experiment with a Sharpie pen, marking the rail and running the different mods over the marks. I gave up with the track rubber but re-tried the abrasive sheet. This largely removed the mark after several moves across the mark. For the time being at least I've filled the hole in the floor and re-instated the abrasive paper.

The Mk1 version was doing some cleaning but it didn't seem to be making a significant impact.

I tried replacing the hardboard with 180 grit sandpaper affixed slightly differently. Again, there were marks on the abrasive to show some cleansing but there were still sections of rail which didn't look as clean as I was hoping.

I think that I'm going to bite the bullet and cut holes in the floor of the wagon and drop a track rubber through it and see what happens. Rubbing the same track rubber over the rails by hand without too much pressure did seem to do a better job.

You've got a Sprog and DecoderPro. You can use this combination to check the decoder's CVs. There's also a throttle facility - PanelPro? - that can be used to check on the decoder's responses to CV changes.

One of the changes that you won't see is an amended value for CV8 even if the decoder has recognised that requested change. You should (I believe) find the loco number reverted to 3 afterwards though.

I'd remove the capacitor, leaving you just a basic decoder. I'd then take a look at CV266 which is the master volume CV (or is it 267 - the manual will confirm which. If you have any paperwork from the sound file producer take a look at whether there are functions to decrease/increase the volume (and make sure the speaker is still working as well - I've had more than one fail).

Try the volume increase function with care. Turn on the increase function and fairly quickly turn it off again. A colleague left the increase function on and had to replace the decoder 😒.

As young Pete the Elaner has said whilst I was typing this, try and speak to the retailer/sound producer to see if they can help you further. Provided damage is not maliciously caused, Zimo will usually replace damaged decoder for a nominal fee. I think that has to be done via the original decoder's sales outlet to get the sound file re-instated.

I bought a so called O gauge brake van via ebay a little while ago only to find that whilst it had O gauge wheels and resembled a BR brake van, the height was too great and the width pushing the normal loading gauge measurement.

It sat demoralised wherever I could hide it until . . . . . . . 

We had a new member join our club last year. He had converted a (heavy) GWR van into a track cleaning vehicle by the simple expedient of cutting a couple of rectangular holes in the van's floor over where the rails would be and dropping a couple of Peco track rubbers (mounted vertically) into the holes, leaving gravity to keep the track rubbers in contact with the rails below. I quite liked this idea but hadn't got a heavy enough vehicle that I could do similar to.

Not so long ago we visited a garden based layout in need of some TLC (when the warmer weather arrives). Subsequent to that one of our member's who unbeknown to me, had been a regular at the garden railway, brought a colleague to the club. Said gent brought with him a Tri-ang Big Train Hymek that had been modified to be a track cleaning vehicle for the garden railway.

The Hymek had been modified to have a horizontally mounted piece of hardboard positioned between the two bogies with the rough side nearest the rails. Judging by the state of the hardboard this idea had definitely worked.

I don't clean my track too frequently and quite often then only the easy to access stretches. This generally means the hidden sidings escape that treatment although they can be reached with a bit of effort.

I was talking to Jim about this yesterday and suddenly thought of the disgraced brake van. It was made from wood and (as I was to find out this morning) was pinned and glued together. Off came the body (reasonably easily) so that I could get to the floor. I drilled a couple of holes in the floor - one on either side - and did likewise in a 50mm square piece of MDF. I loosely bolted the MDF to the underside of the floor using nuts, bolts, washers and springs (to keep the two wooden parts apart) I found in the garage.

I applied some adhesive tape backed Velcro to the underside of the MDF and to the smooth side of a similarly sized piece of hardboard. The springs are compressed enough to push the MDF/hardboard against the rails. A couple of pieces of lead offcuts were glued to the floor of the vehicle and a test run began - the lead isn't on the wagon in the first image.

And this was what the rough side of the hardboard looked like after a return trip between Gawcott & Westbury behind the Terrier:

My original intention was to leave the vehicle like that but I took pity on its aesthetics and made up some plastic sides and ends to give me this:

I'll paint the bodywork grey in due course. The tail lamp came from the body of the brakevan.

The wagon is very good at finding even the slightest stepped rail joint (and the occasional track pin that hasn't been glued down).

One of the rubbing pieces from the Hymek was made of plywood with some coarse emery paper used as the rail cleaner. I might give that a go as well in due course.

12 hours ago, 34006 said:

I must say, the fireman in Papyrus is looking a little peeved about something, but not sure what................?

Has the Bobby let a GWR tank loco go before his A3?

I think the above poster is an imposter. There's at least two coaches in the above images where the sides are in only one colour 😃

I mentioned in my previous post that I'd been working on the Westbury Crossing based LCUT Creative water tower. It sort of hides the lever frame. 

I've added a little over 20mm to the height of the "brick" walls as can be seen in the lower of the above two images. Early signs are that the addition is enough (which is good because I didn't fancy having to patch in some more of the brick paper).

Gawcott's station building has also been attacked with the brick paper as can be seen below.

The card hides the frame from passengers on the platform (as well as providing somewhere to affix the box diagram). I'll probably do something similar on the inside of the water tower.

The rest of today has been spent assembling an LCUT Creative small goods shed for Gawcott. This is also destined to have brick papers affixed to the walls and, if I can get appropriate ones, to the building's roof as well.

You're route knowledge astounds me. Is there anywhere in the UK you don't sign?

I'm undecided.

The area that I Artexed yesterday is definitely firmer than the area I painted in PVA this morning. The PVA was diluted slightly to get the Acrylic paint to mix.

All I would expect to do to the Artexed area would be to flock it, add some static grass(es) and stick some clump foliage on top. I wonder if a second coat of Artex before the flock etc., would be a good idea?

There was no shunting today.

Instead I spent the time applying Scalology's adhesive brick papers/vinyls to the LCut Creative water tower as I didn't trust myself to do a decent job with a paint brush. That said, I didn't really have an option because I've increased the height of the brick walls as the building is around the lever frame at Westbury. Its original height made access to the levers less easy - it's much better now.

21 minutes ago, RedgateModels said:

One for @pauliebanger methinks. Ray might have hit the nail on the head with the MX/MS possible issue?

Just checked the new MS manual, the use of the two CVs mentioned above hasn't changed. I don't know if there is a separate CV related to braking aligned to the light engine function.

And so to scenery (ugh!).

I was lucky some while ago to acquire what I presume is 5mm foamboard. I've started using this for the upright supports for the grassed areas, using a hot glue gun's glue (😃) to fix it in position. I've then stuffed scrunched up newspaper into the gaps between the uprights. and stretched 50mm wide masking tape between the uprights and over the newspaper. I purposely didn't pack the newspaper tight to give some flexibility in the surface so it isn't all flat.

That part of the process went well (if you like decorator's masking tape coloured grass).

I was introduced to Artex plaster as useful for scenery some while ago and have used it previously as a layer over some plaster impregnated cloth (that didn't seem to have too much plaster impregnated!). The attraction of the Artex is that it is unlike ordinary plaster insomuch as you can re-wet it and then reshape it.

I mixed some Artex last evening (around 9pm) and applied it over an area of (lightly supported) masking tape. It didn't seem to have dried completely by 8am this morning possibly because the garage temperature was around 14º. It also doesn't feel too rigid, maybe because the supporting structure isn't rigid enough.

That said, the layout is not designed to be portable, so I'm hopeful that it shouldn't be too susceptible to damage.

And so today . . . . . 

I'm going to use a hot air blower over last night's produce and see if that makes a difference in its drying. I'm then going to mix some green acrylic paint with some neat PVA and paint the Artex - the green paint is partly to show if I've missed any Artexed areas. I shall also try painting the so far non-Artexed masking tape with neat PVA to try and induce some rigidity into it.

In between times I might do some shunting.

Take a look at CV349. That's the CV used with the active brake facility.

Is function 2 (or whatever key has been nominated for the active brake) selected when you run light loco?

CV309 will tell you which key has been assigned for the active brake.

The above CV numbers were those with the MX range of decoders. I don't know if they've changed with the MS range.

11 hours ago, Davexoc said:

 

The only route currently closed between Winslow and Bletchley is the Whaddon Road - Newton Longville, which should be lifted some time this month. Their is some small plant by the Whaddon Road - Mursley, that looks to be final landscaping for handing back land used during the reconstruction works...

Came through Mursley en route to MK last evening and judging by the cars coming off the Newton Longville Road at Bottle Dump roundabout that the road may be open again.

You're modelling is brilliant Kevin, that looks just like I imagine the real thing will do nearly 80 years on from 1938. Do you know the winning numbers for this week's lottery?

The job was finished off yesterday albeit not without the Arduino resolutely not doing what I was expecting - it was doing what I'd previously told it to do 😐.

It took a while to sort that out, highlighting the concept that any comments included in programs are there to be read, not ignored.

Anyway, once I'd sorted that, all was good and the day's service was completed without further ado.

I knocked up a rough sequence a while ago. That's now been run through a couple of times without failing so I typed it up last night. This sequence has but 24 moves and seems manageable by one operator, unlike the 90 plus moves in the sequence for the OO layout which got a bit overpowering when it was just me operating it.

I suspect that the requirement with this layout for the LR train journeys to got round the garage 1½ times provides a respite (and, for the BR trains, allows them to run round and round if I let them).. I've also refrained from having (theoretical clock) times associated with this sequence.

More running today.

Yesterday was a fairly productive day, the results of which are shown below.

First though, the initial image below shows where I was starting from yesterday. It shows part of the recently laid (fiddle yard) pointwork just visible in the background and the solitary two sidings which represent (BR) branch end in the right foreground.

Next there is an illustration of how the adding of a third siding as part of the earlier trackwork would have eaten away at the space in the inner of the two sidings that eventually went down. The wagons in the foreground represent the accommodation that the third siding would have given and the space consumed by the point needed to create the extra siding. There was room for an extra wagon below the camera. It also has to be remembered that the loosely laid point has a radius of around forty inches which artificially keeps its length down.

The third image shows what I was hoping to achieve. The extra point is laid temporarily on the through line but I can't work out which of the two points that I had in stock was used for the photo.

And finally, in more ways than one, is what I ended up with. The railcar comfortably tucked out of the way of trains arriving and departing from this end of the fiddle yard. I tried both the partially curved and straight points that I had and settled on the latter as it gave the maximum siding length with only a minor disturbance to the through line.

Prior to yesterday I had a couple of short lengths of Peco track remaining from previous trackwork/laying and was thinking that I'd have to make up something using PCB sleepering to get the maximum length from the new siding. I'd completely overlooked the fact that inserting the point into existing plain track would free up some Peco track for the siding. To add insult to injury, so to speak, I did end up making a short length of track from odd sleepers and pieces of rail for the end of the siding only to find, as I cleared the various odds and ends away after the track laying finished, that said odds and ends had hidden a short length of the track recovered from the through line. Anyone for a four inch long programming track?

The PW team surrendered their track  possession yesterday afternoon and the signalling "boy" had installed the wire in tube and the servo before he packed up. That (just?) leaves the servo to be connected to the Arduino, the Arduino sketch to be updated, the frog and associated track wires to be connected to the relay and the point operating switch to be found and installed. With luck, the railcar currently waiting at Westbury will be able make it to the branch end later today.

Isn't that a bit big for the platform Ade?

Hat, coat, gone!

And just when I thought I'd finalised the track layout . . . . 

The lower level (under Gawcott) effectively features two storage yards/hidden sidings/fiddle yards, facing each other but not directly accessible from each other. The traverser end represents the world at large whilst the other end comprises just two relatively short dead-end sidings representing the end of the BR branch. These two sidings can accommodate no more than 6 wagons.

In what I take as not totally unrealistic (and certainly not one engine in steam), the railcar that occasionally shuttles between both sets of sidings (via Westbury) waits at the smaller (fiddle) yard for the branch freight to arrive there before the railcar returns along the branch to be followed by the returning freight.

One of the two (hidden) sidings holds stock for the departing freight leaving the other siding for the arriving freight, which leaves nowhere for the railcar to lay-over and requires said railcar to be shunted around to avoid the freight.

The two sidings were a late addition following a (brilliant) suggestion from Jim. I thought about adding a third siding off of one of the two when I made the recent changes but calculated that the presence of the extra point (which had to be kept clear to be usable) wouldn't give me any extra siding capacity.

Shunting the railcar around to avoid the freight yesterday made me question another option. The plain track between the recently laid pointwork and where the BR track emerges from the depths below Tingewick could possibly accommodate a (left hand) point which could lead to a third siding into which I could run the railcar if the siding is long enough.

I initially thought of using a Peco point because I was under the impression that the two points I rescued during the recent changes were both right hand points. They weren't, they're both left hand points, albeit that one is curved slightly. I have a spare relay on the shield (for the new point's frog polarity switching), a plentiful supply of servos, plenty of left-over cork sheet and reckon I can find a switch for operating the servo as well. I even think that adding the new point and siding can be achieved by only needing to remove the short upper level baseboard to get to the work area.

I'm off to do some measuring and will report back later.