EddieB

thats it, get a taste for it.

 

as said, some where shown on tv back in the 60s, but not the whole season. that didnt come til 1978 I think.

 

Happy days!

The Monza circuit is worth visiting when there's nothing racing - there's an FS class 835 0-6-0T plinthed there (never leaves the top step of its podium?)!

The answer to this question is a British locomotive builder.

A family business dating back to the previous century, one of the family members became closely involved with a much bigger and well-known locomotive builder, before splitting off to build locomotives through the family firm. Although no complete works list survives, it is thought that just over 200 locomotives were built in a span of around sixteen years. The last batch of locomotives were of broad gauge and went to a railway in the UK whose enduring fame and tradition of operating unique locomotives finished in the 1970s.

Sadly none of the locomotives built by this business have survived. However two* European countries saw fit to build replicas of locomotives built by this firm. Some sources even give the original locomotives as being numbered consecutively (although the list given in Lowe disagrees).

*There are suggestions that a third replica locomotive, in a different country to the other two, is another copy of a locomotive constructed by the same firm, but on balance it appears that the original was from a differnt builder.

Assuming that we're talking steam, I'd suggest J38 class nos 65901 and 65929, withdrawn in April 1967.

Yes, that's a better answer - although the OP's question would imply that the EM2s were also a Gresley design, which they aren't generally regarded as being (http://www.lner.info...ctric/em2.shtml).

I think you're mixing up the EM1 (class 76, Bo-Bo) with EM2 (class 77, Co-Co), the former outlasting the latter on British Railways (the EM2s being sold to the Dutch State Railways). But seeing as the Em1`s were withdrawn en bloc, I don't think this is what the qustionner is after!

Yep, probably too easy given my attraction to things Great Eastern.

Loco number 527, delivered in 1879, was the first British 2-6-0 and was named "Mogul" -as it appears was a loco built for the Central Railroad of New Jersey in 1866 which gave its name to the type.

Over to you, O measurer of acidity and alkalinity.

Sorry for the delay, just back and little time to prepare, so here's one from "stock".

This locomotive, the leader of a batch of fifteen, was the first of its wheel arrangement into service with one of the "main" companies. It carried a name by which this wheel arrangement was widely known, the wheel arrangement itself being widely used in Britain subsequently.

(Oddly enough, it seems that the locomotive did not confer its name on the wheel arrangement - that honour befall a similarly named locomotive in the USA some years earlier.)

What was the running number carried by the locomotive in question?

No, I was quite happy to walk away from the three-position signals having gone as far as I could. Great Western, you say? Probably explains why I couldn't get there.

Anyway,

PLA = Passengers' (Unaccompanied) Luggage in Advance

DL = Delivered luggage

CL = Collected luggage

Is there a coicidence that BBC relinquishes part of its F1 coverage in the same year it will be giving us wall to wall Olympics?

I love my sport, but I don't want to subscribe to Sky. It's not just the subscription costs - I am opposed to the way that Sky and the Murdochs have been handed our national sporting treasures, that they've been able to buy out of the tax concessions awarded by successive Governments for their endorsements in their grubby little "news"papers. As Sky buys more top sporting events, then it channels its extra money to buy out the rest.

Still there's always tennis, snooker, horse racing and the "Alan Weekes" sports (minority sports barely more interesting that tiddly-winks - you know, the ones that no one wanted to buy Olympic tickets for).- the BBC will be working overtime to make them interesting.

Who was that Greek fellow who tried to slay the many heads of the Hydra?

Jumping in with both feet, without any checking, if you've laid a clue in response to my suggestion of working on the Great Northern main line, could it be Kings Cross, on the Widened Lines with the lead piping Metropolitan Railway?

Or, continuing the theme of permissive working , could it be Victoria* and the South East and Chatham reginalling of 1920 using supplementary discs (the Southern Railway re-signalling with three position semaphores of the LBSCR pattern in 1924)?

*Starting to sound like a game of Cluedo, when all but the suspect is known!

Seeing as I posess none of the canonical works on British railway signalling, I'm guessing (most likely incorrectly) that it could be something to do with signalling to allow "permissive block" working on the Great Northern main line.

Well done Jeremy - I was thinking of Bowen-Cooke, but couldn't follow up the loco connection.

David Joy - who went on to devise a valvegear which bears his name (the Swedish lady was, of course, Jenny Lind).

Too easy!

To you, Mike.

There was I promising a break from all things Great Eastern, and others come up with questions with a Great Eastern connection. Well, I have some some further Great Eastern questions lined up, but this isn't one of them.

While on the subject of people, this engineer and inventor didn't follow his father into the oil seed business, but was apprenticed to one of the oldest locomotive builders. He moved on to manage the drawing office of another locomotive builder, during which time he was chief draughtsman on a very successful and elegant design named for a popular Swedish contemporary figure. After so many achievements in early life, he probably is most famous for a patent taken out when he was 45. First tried out by Webb, it became widely adopted by the LNWR.

He has a modern namesake who is Features Editor on a railway title (which reminds me that my subscription needs renewal).

Sir Henry Thornton?

Pipped on the line! I should have avoided adding some extra detail!

William Adams.

Fooled a little as his father was resident engineer as the East and West India Docks Company - I thought the reference was to parts of the subcontinent.

I'm puzzling a little over what type of engineer you're after (ok, it isn't Farouk Engineer, for starters).

When you say "employers" do you mean he worked as an employee for companies based in those parts, or he had a patent that was employed there?

So far the best name I can come up with is ER Calthrop, which I'm pretty sure is wrong.

Thanks for your reply, and the others too, very helpful indeed.

 

I do watch the companies shares almost daily, I started getting the shares back in the 70's when they were about £1.50 a share...........they are now over £20 a share. Johnson Matthey is a precious metals company, and you only have to see the gold price to see how well JM are doing.

Funny thing, I came across a Triang Hornby price list from 1973 earlier today. In those days you could buy a loaded Freightliner wagon for £1.20, a horse box for 65p and the top of the range locomotives ("Oliver Cromwell", "Prrncess Elizabeth" or a Black 5) for just over a tenner, Judging by equivalent prices nowadays, I'd say your shares have almost/just about kept up. On the other hand, a gallon (youngsters ask your parents) of petrol was around 30p.

When it comes to buying and selling you need an agent (called a "broker" up until 1986). Agents that deal with the likes of you and me tend to be divided into those who offer advice (for which you need a big enough investment to make it worth their while - and deep pockets to pay them) or an "execution only" service. There are firms which operate on-line or telephone trades - check out fee structures and get recommendations. Nearly all are pretty efficient (they have to be). (I wouldn't recommend going via a High Street Bank, who generally add another layer of time and cost). Most firms will suggest you open some kind of share account with them, to "de-materialise" your share certificates, to make the shares quicker and easier to trade via Crest (the Bank of England settlement system). On the other hand, quite a few companies offer "perks" to their shareholders, which tend to be available only when your name is on the company register, which usually means hanging onto the certificates. (Share accounts are usually "nominee" accounts - a single registration by the agent, who holds record of ownership - rather than the company registrar). When starting out with any agent, you will need to go through presenting the usual forms of identification rigmarole.

As far as tax is concerned, you pay 0.5% stamp duty reserve tax on all purchases (sales are exempt from SDRT). If your net gains for a given tax year exceed the annual exemption amount (currently £10,600) you are liable for capital gains tax on your excess profits - at the same rate as you [would] pay income tax. A simplified regime of exemptions and allowances was introduced a few years ago to replace an over-complicated scheme (only a handful of people at the Inland Revenue, as was, really understood it). There is still more favourable relief for "business" assets - which would apply if you were still working at the company you hold the share of, but not if you are a retiree. Given the length of your holding, there are large elements of indexation and relief which will considerably reduce the net gain potentially liable to tax from the "book profit".

If you make an overall loss in any tax year you can declare that to HMRC and offset it against gains in another tax year. It can get complicated, but what it boils down to is that if you're sitting on a large pile of profits, it might be worth taking some up to your annual exemption limit each tax year and avoid CGT, rather than all in one go and getting a hefty tax bill.

Being a Celeb is one thing. For me it is the heart rending plight of a young person dying alone.

Well said.

It isn't like no one saw this coming.

Where were her so-called friends, her parents, the people she worked with? Don't tell me that they weren't aware what harm she was doing to herself.

By the accounts of her last "performances" it was evident that she was nearing the bottom of a long downhill slope.

She might not have thanked them at the time, but couldn't someone have pulled her out of this mire?

Something tells me that there are those who delight in another Brian Jones, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, Curt Kobain, Jimi Hendrix - or a Sid and Nancy. A sacrifice that somehow purges the rest of us? Except it doesn't, just a terrible waste of a life.

It's not the evident talent she had that matters most, it was the life of a young girl.

Well, I can identify the Yorkshire Engine Co one: it was BR No. 3409 (YE2584 of 1956), the last steam locomotive built at Meadowhall and the last BR locomotive to be built to a pre-nationalisation design (GWR 94xx class).

 

Presumably the Darlington one was the last steam locomotive built there, to a pre-grouping design, class J72 no. 69028.

 

Thus we have the last post-nationalisation locomotive, 92220, the last grouping design locomotive, 3409 and the last pre-grouping design locomotive, 69028. All were built by BR!

 

I assume this wasn't your "stinker".

 

JE

Correct on all points, including that it wasn't my "stinker"! B)

Here's a teaser then. Follow the logic in the preamble for a clue to the question.

Swindon, as we all know, never allocated works numbers to the locomotives it built. It did however complete a locomotive in 1960 which was numbered 92220 by British Railways.

What then is the significance of the locomotive built at Darlington with works number 2156 and the locomotive built by Yorkshire Engine Co. with works number 2584 (subcontracted by Hunslet Engine Co. which had allocated their works number 3739)?

Both locomotives - and their significance - need to be identified.

Wath?

The Great Central Railway had four 0-8-4T locomotives built by Beyer Peacock in 1907, which became LNER class S1. Gresley added a booster to one of the locomotives and added two more new-builds to the same design (also fitted with boosters) in 1932. Collectively they were known as the "Wath Daisies". Not totally unique as the new locos replaced two of the originals transferred to March for the new hump yard at Whitemoor.

1506

Quite correct. From the second batch ("A73") of Stephen Holden's Great Eastern Railway S69 class 4-6-0 (which became LNER B12). Delivered in early 1913, damaged beyond economic repair in an accident at Colchester, written off and scrapped within the same year. Had it survived it would have become LNER 8506, reverting to 1506 in the 1946 renumbering.

Father James Holden spent some time at Swindon before becoming Locomotive Superintendent at Stratford. His uncle, Edward Tennant held a similar post on the North Eastern Railway.

Time to give a little more information, I think.

In addition to the standard reference works on the company's locomotives, the locomotive in question was so identified in one of Philip Atkins' excellent survey articles in Backtrack. The year of its building and scrappage has been described as a "Halcyon year" in another of that same author's pieces in the same magazine. Had the locomotive survived, it's last number prior to nationalisation would have been the same as the number originally carried.

The father of the son responsible for the design had an uncle who was Locomotive Superintendent at a third railway company (i.e. not the one for which this locomotive was built, nor the Great Western as identified by reference to Swindon in the original question).