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Just had a monster of a wallet lightening vision.... Golden Age Coronations in BR late crest including 46256, and also my namesake 92220 in lined green.....both with full DCC sound. Given the quality of their other models, temptation will certainly be there! Iain

Heavy rain today so golf cancelled and a couple of hours free to continue with building. Here are the first few steps in building the side of Camden Goods Depot I decided to build a shell in ply, with an overlay of mdf to give the relief, then to skin in plasticard. Hoping that this would give enough rigidity for such a long building and - it's just over 1000mm. Several more repetitions to go.....! Iain

Hi Thanks! I drew the bridge up myself from measurements on site, photos that I purchased, searched for and took myself, and then scaled it to fit the model, which is compressed a little. I wanted to retain the shape and appearance but make it a bit smaller basically. For those who saw my half baked idea for half relief vans http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/68785-half-relief-vans-for-a-backscene/ I moved the entire layout an inch or so away from the wall, (so it is now hard up against the other wall!) and restarted the scenic extension boards at the back yesterday. There is now enough room for a full line of vans going into the goods depot, and a bit more space for the station buildings. I also was able to redo the shape of the DC line under the station so it didn't curve away quite so sharply. I hope it will come together neatly enough. And soon..... Iain

I like the effect of that powder Jason. It's interesting how on some bits or types of wall the muck seems to settle into the mortar courses, and on others it seems to coat the stone or brick and leaves the mortar less coloured. I'm not entirely sure why that should be but this section you've done looks good. Iain

That's good enough for me Jason, I'll stick with enamels and bide my time! Thanks, Iain

End of play today: I've added the cabling along the bridge from 32/0.2 wire, stripped and painted. Brackets from 0.45 wire. 2 coats of grey. No weathering yet, and need to do the concrete on the bridge piers and other bits and pieces, plus the road and pavements. A lot of fiddling around moving from one thing to another while paint dries. Maybe I should get into acrylics..... I have got to sort out better lighting and pictures.... Sorry. Iain

These two sites: http://www.abandoned-stations.org.uk/Primrose_Hill_station.html and http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/p/primrose_hill/index.shtml have several photos. The latter shows this pic: Giving an indication of how the station used to be in the early 20th C. The Euston line platform footbridge is visible in full. This snap, taken at the end of last year, just about shows where that footbridge joined the building, but I only twigged what to look for when you mentioned it. I don't think I'll try to replicate that area as it will look out of place. I've also now worked out why there is a great big steel embedded in the W wall of the station building. Iain

Those gates are superb Jason. The fittings look especially well observed and neatly built. Iain

I'm really enjoying not just what you are doing, Scott, but the way you think through, find solutions to, and explain the challenges you face. Keep up the good work! Iain

Hi Stanley, Thanks very much indeed. Anything at all that you have and are able to share would be hugely appreciated. I've done a fair bit of research including visiting the NRM archive, and have accumulated a collection of prints and digital images, as well as a good number of magazine articles with info and photos. At the moment, once I've completed this section, I'll be continuing to try to get detailed info on -the signals and trackside details (I'm aware that I've got to adjust these in light of the fact that my track plan is simplified and as yet doesn't include the electrified slow lines) -the signal box at the SE end just by the footbridge to Camden Goods Depot -the footbridge itself, and -the side of the goods depot building. As you rightly say, the east side of the engine shed adjacent to the mainlines is very elusive. I may have to end up guessing a bit on that, but obviously would prefer not to! I'm a fair way off building that though, so have time to find whatever might be out there. Greatly appreciate your help and interest. Best wishes, Iain

Thanks, you're very generous. Definitely not the first try though! I've been through a load of off cuts to practise some techniques and so on. I especially like Jason' mortar technique because you can just wash it off each time you get it wrong. In fact I'm sure I'm not even doing it the way he suggested in the end, probably more of a wash that settles into the courses. Iain

And a couple more of progress up to yesterday: I've done a bit more this morning, including beginning to paint the bridge. Iain

Mmmmm, had a bit of a clear up first thing and it's surprisingly easier to work! Here are some painting efforts. These two are painted a base coat of humbrol chocolate 98 to represent brown brick, then mortar colour added. I did also try to pick out one or two bricks in different shades on the facing side. Now sure how successful that was... I think they need a bit more "yellow" to the brick colour, and maybe another application of mortar colour as well. But they have some potential. This is the back side of the "staircase to nowhere" nearest the mainlines, which will never be seen except when the layout is dismantled. As far as I can make out from a lot of research, it was built of a lighter brick than the station, then painted a light grey or even whitewashed (?) sometime after the period I'm modelling. So I experimented with a base coat of another colour. Can't remember the number. Then dry brushed some 98 over the top. No mortar colour yet. Iain

Thanks everyone. LNER4479 - I'm planning to finish the track and much of the scenery at the north end and then modify and weather a couple more locos so I can get more of a feel for how it is turning out. 46248 will probably be the first, and will probably become 46245 City of London. The first efforts with painting are not too bad and will be weathered further. I was intrigued by looking at some of GravyTrain's remarkable station buildings on Peterborough North - they seem to have a dark mortar course with the brickwork varied shades lighter, as if they've been drybrushed. The effect is good even if it doesn't spring to mind as a method. I guess that's why he's good! Nigel - likewise, good to chat at Watford. I could have something in the background on the line through and under the station building, for photographic purposes only as it isn't wired and simply runs into the backscene! I may need your advice as to what would be best. If I do take the plunge and add the DC electrification to the up and down slow lines as well, I'll need to do so soon..... (actually, come to think of it, I could have the station line acting as a terminus from the FY section......) Polly - thanks, there certainly seems to be no growth like that in the early 60's. I'm planning on it being sootier and grimier but not sprinkled with rubbish and certainly no bushes growing out of gutters! Ian - thanks, I love what you've done with Haymarket Cross. I tried to have a quick chat at one of the shows, Warley maybe, but the gallery was large and the queue long! I'll have a bit more progress to photograph later I hope. In the meantime, does everyone's bench look like this? Iain

Thanks Jason, that's helpful. I'll have a go at it when I can get back to the workbench later in the week and see what I can do. Iain

Mike, Jon, Thanks very much for your interest and kind words. Much appreciated. Jason, That makes a lot of sense, thanks. I'll try on a few off cuts and discarded bits - I've got enough of the bloody things. Someone somewhere suggested sanding the faces of the brickwork down beforehand to reduce the depth and width of the mortar courses. But I can't remember who. Oh, I nearly forgot. I put some rivets on the bridge. Slaters sheet, worked quite well on the top surfaces I think. Iain

A recent pic of the real thing And this by Tony Harden from http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/p/primrose_hill/index.shtml Hopefully show what I'm trying to achieve. Iain

Thanks Jason and Scott. I guess what I really mean is "my very slowly developing competence". It's fortunate that I don't have a wide angle lens - it would require one to frame the mountain of discarded bits of plasticard on my work bench..... I'm quite pleased with how it is at the moment. It is a fiddly building, I'm doing only an angled cross-section of it, and it has a load of seemingly pointless rooms or offices attached. They do at least give a scenic barrier behind the mainlines. It is a difficult corner of the layout to get right but will be visible in loads of views. Hopefully I'm getting there. I really need to get the basic shell, plus the bridge supports and the retaining wall on the other side, painted. Practice on some off cuts sounds like a good idea. If I mess this up after I don't know how many hours building it......? So I am thinking: Base mortar colour Wipe off the brick surfaces Various layers of dry brushing (station building is brown/yellow brick, bridge piers are blue) Some weathering (ok, a lot....I've got one picture of part of the shed area entitled "was there ever a blacker girder?" Does that sound ok? Iain

I live in hope that the last shot (of an as yet unmodified City of Leeds) looks a bit like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/taffytank/5957789982/lightbox/ which I've referenced before. Iain

I've made a bit of progress with the buildings. Thanks to many on here, but especially Jason (Sandside) for their freely given help and inspiration. I also had a squint at Geoff Taylor's Right Track DVD on making plasticard buildings, which helped a lot. No photos of the first effort, which was to buildings what Enron was to accounting. Some pics of the building in various stages of construction with the scenic board removed from the back of the layout. Don't worry about the black milliput. It's better in real life and as close as I can get to the real thing, given 1. My incompetence 2. Lack of really detailed photos from the early 60's, and 3. The fact that I had to change the dimensions and arrangement slightly in order to fit into the overall plan. Here are a couple of photos of it a bit further on: Iain

Many thanks indeed for those! Lots of details visible that I can use. I notice from your username and profile that you are interested in the area. Do please feel free to chime in at any point. Best wishes, Iain

I can certainly recommend the Alan Gibson etches for Braithwaite panels. I'm sure anyone with Blackrat's skills would make a great job of it. The tank section of mine is complete, though not cleaned up or detailed yet, then I've got the stand to build too: There is a sheet of brass for the base, and brass strip for the walkways around the top. This will be covered with thin sheets of planking, then handrails added. Very much enjoying the work in all of the BCB threads - thanks to everyone for the accounts, photos and inspiration. Iain

Hi Rob Jenkinson says 46228 had its smokebox done 1/57, and was blue from 1950, repainted green 8/55, and red 6/58. So if those dates are correct, the sloping smokebox/green combination was fine for about 19-20 months. Hope that helps. Iain

Welcome back home Scott and happy new year to you and the family. Snowing heavily here but a long way from -20! Iain

Hi Ian 49-52 also had curved footplate fronts, as did 42 after rebuild following the Harrow and Wealdstone disaster. I have seen the sloping smoke box as a spare available separately on eBay as well. You might have seen this build of 46256: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/65335-motive-power-for-camden-shed/ Iain