Black Sheep

Can you turn the music down please? I can't hear the telly!

Don't joke, seriously don't joke, we had to speak to the council about neighbours.

And at least half of them should be parked on the kerb.......

 

Mick

bizzarely the volvos are either really well parked or feet away from the kerb, it's the small cars that are on the kerb

And you won't need to add wing mirrors, they've been knocked off.

most of the cars on the street have their door mirrors intact, except a citroen berlingo which has had a towing mirror added to make up for the missing mirror glass of its standard mirror (if that makes sense)

there is also a porsche with a selotape repair to it's soft top rear screen

most cars are blue or silver

is it the norm to look inside a loco's body for identifying marks?

just wondering as this would require taking the loco apart as I don't have much space on which to mark N gauge locos etc

thinking of painting something onto the underside as an identifying mark

More likely to relate to how many vehicles are parked, and how much space each has to manoeuvre. Plenty of crowded housing estates, built before car ownership had spread to the masses, have far more cars trying to park than spaces on the road, so squeezing in and out is part of the art. All three vehicles in your pic have power steering, while plenty of lesser, not-so-new cars still don't, and we all recall how tough that can be, I'm sure - turning the wheels parallel to the kerb may not be much fun!

Indeed, my house is one of about a hundred in the row, broken only for a small alleyway to the 'backs' and built in the late 1890's I believe. the frontage of each house is such that if every house owned an original mini there would be space to park it outside your own house and get it in and out of the space, however there are five volvo estates and a number of 4x4's that park on our road and a few vans, it's just round the corner from both the school and the centre of the small town that has become a suburb of the city located a 10 mins walk down the hill.

as such, squeezing into small spaces has become second nature and I now get confused when given lots of room in which to park!

I'll take a photo at some point to post.

If you'll excuse the very quick chop job in photoshop,

here's my proposed Deltic HST DMU.

as I said before, Deltic chopped in two, finish the back end of each power car with half a coach, insert dedicated stock between the two (or regular stock for that matter) and away you go!

Parked vehicles with angled steering are the exception not the norm.

 

Cheers

 

Jim

not on the street I live on!!!

have a mix of cars with wheels pointing all over the place, some cars a foot or more from the kerb, others tucked right up against it, some cars half on the kerb and often cars squeezed into a gap you wouldn't have thought possible.

so, anyone modeling a terraced street in modern times, pick a random mix of cars, vans and 4x4's, add a classic car to the mix, put a blindfold on and place them parked up each side of the street, the result will be quite realistic if my road is anything to go by!

What about a DDMU (Deltic DMU) ?

basically split a deltic in two, one engine and cab at each end, putting half a coach onto the back end of the cab and engine and putting more in the middle to make a set - you've got a 1950's HST set going on.

infact, I might well do it myself!!!

I one day hope to model lakeside station, windermere as it was in 1948 (nationalisation-ish) but also fancy running it as a modern day layout

the building was demolished in the late 60's due to ''pier strengthening'' and it is now a preserved line - but what if traffic had continued enough that it's still there, possibly running partly alongside the preserved route?

why not? surely part of the point of building a model is to have the option of ''what if?''

I'm currently pondering modeling my current layout as what if nationalisation had not happened - would the LMS be running a deltic and some DMU's in the 50's?

what would it's colour scheme have been on DMU's?

I feel that it would be perfectly legitimate to "imagineer" locos/rolling stock based upon actual real designs if one so wished!

I have heard of 'redgate models' idea of building the BR standard 2-8-2 (which the 9F nearly was!) and there have been others, notably GWR pacifics and even a GWR 2-10-2T along with C-C 'super Hymek's and so on.

Why not, if one has the skill to build such a model and make it look realistic and/or feasable, IMHO go for it! I don't think a sci-fi version of a Duchess or an A4 would be very 'realistic' but how about a 4-8-2 version of a Duchess or A4? A 2-8-4T version of the Stanier etc 6 coupled tank would be a most impressive machine!

Or, how about a 12 wheeled BR mark 1 restuarant or sleeper?

A Co-Co version of the HST was i believe, discussed in railway circles in the eighties, how about a Co-Co version of a class 86 or 87?

Cheers,

John E.

indeed, the other reason for modeling something, want to model a main line station served by a class of the LNER's number 10000 'hush hush''? why not? it was a prototype that was built to see if it would work and was abandoned, but what if it had worked and been put into service, would the A4 have been displaced?

The answer may lie in the reasons folk choose imaginary locations. Some layouts are just generic backgrounds to their locomotives, suiting the individual's taste. If one was to pick generic locomotives and drop them onto generic layouts, well it seems to lose all connection to reality.

my layout perhaps should be just a single line widening into a run round two platform station with goods loop - but I want trains to be able to pass each other - it's built for my enjoyment so it has two lines (partly because this will help with actual running of the layout)

I know someone who used to enjoy sending a Union Pacific big boy round his 1920's midland layout - I'd join in by running Bill and Ben on the narrow gauge section.

If you can't enjoy your hobby, why bother?

I understand the enjoyment someone would get from accurately modeling York (for want of an example) in the steam / diesel transition period who would be very accurate with detail including stock used

I can understand someone who wants to model accurately but occasionally run a locomotive that's from a different company or different era for the simple reason of ''i like the loco''

Has anyone found any damage to the loco from running in the snow?

any rust or anything like that?

Thinking I might one day build a garden railway in 00 as i'm never going to have enough space to build an indoor layout.

 

Goods sidings - you might find two or three, one of which might have the goods shed on it. Coal merchants might have heir own dedicated plots alongside a siding in larger yards, with or without sleeper-built coal bins. They were charged rent for the space, ask Stationmaster about this as I'm fairly sure he's posted in the past about coal merchants' tendencies to use elastic tape measures when marking out their plots.

I was reading somewhere on here about coal bins, and generally, they often didn't bother, they would order coal in, based on what they could shift in the time they'd rented the waggon/siding for

if they ran out of time they'd dump it on the floor to avoid being fined for keeping the siding blocked / wagon longer than agreed

they'd then have a bit more time in which to move the coal before the station / goods yard staff got annoyed.

later, when wagon sizes increased with metal sided mineral wagons being used more often, they'd often end up with more coal than they could shift / lower prices in summer to keep coal moving from the pit they might end up over ordering and end up with a fair amount of coal on the ground and not want to keep the wagon and be fined for it.

Peco don't do concrete sleepered points, but if you weather your track once the ballast is down this becomes less of an issue. I'd only bother with the code 55 for visible areas. Use up the stuff you have in the fiddle yard.

If its any help to anyone, I've seen a fair few points still in use on wooden sleepered points,

the hallam line from sheffield to leeds (via Wakefield Westgate) had some when I last used it a year or two ago.