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Hengist and his wife or Horse Horsa probably went to Dunloghaire which due to the awkward motion of the ferry they developed severe Vortigern, resulting in Naussicca and so on.

3 hours ago, Crisis Rail said:

 

......The recreational use of nitrous oxide, or laughing gas, is on the rise, as more and more people are misusing the drug in an effort to get high. People inhale the gas - also known as "hippy crack" - from balloons or metal cannisters for the euphoric, pain-numbing effect.

 

Kids of today eh? Tsk.

brain numbing or are they already that?

tis cheaper chaps.

ratio 4 wheelers can be hacked to a reasonable facsimile of GE coaches as can the midland suburbans. reasonable alternative to D&S if you can get them. Cautious about printed coaches  very variable.

genius sheer genius

59 minutes ago, hayfield said:

I have watched most of the film and watched the first two mini films several times just to get my orientation correct, pity we are not allowed out as could go and explore various sites. Still  as I retire in 19 days I will have plenty of time hopefully in the months to come

 

Just bought a SEF N7 which needs finishing off, fancied painting it in GER blue but there does not seem to be any transfers in the HMRS range, will build it to EM gauge but it will look a bit out of place on my west country layout

 

 

fox transfers do a lot of gER stuff, no connection , but worth a try

I 've got the same problem, brought up in West Essex, going to school behind crumbling N7s and with A Grandparent living in Norfolk, Liverpool Street to Norwich and so on, now I live in Cornwall, modelling GER. but just hooked on tram locos.

there was an article in a Hornby mag I think . Somebody cleverly took a J72 and made a J69, but he did use the 00chassis .

11 minutes ago, NHY 581 said:

Morning Martyn. 

 

Looking at your thread I am struck by the fact that there is a clear need for someone to produce a J69 to today's standards. Either Hornby or Bachmann would do a fine job, I'm sure. 

 

And they are quite pretty... ( says the Southern/Midland man) 

 

 

Rob. 

There has been a constant entry in wishlist polls and so on for a J69, or very similar but the big manfacturers have steadfastly not followed that up.

Part of the problem must be that there were a lot of them and each one was a bit different.

43 minutes ago, Ron Ron Ron said:

 

Your name vil also go on ze list.

 

 

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altogether now ..... "dont tell him Pike"

4 minutes ago, Nearholmer said:

I think I must be stuck in a war-film paradigm, because that phrase seems so dissonant.

 

I’m imagining a chap sitting in an ME109, using an iPhone.

 

Will I ever be able to rid myself of these stereotypes!?

Whatever you do dont mention the war I did but I think I got away with it!

9 minutes ago, chris p bacon said:

Lat Friday I gave blood at the local clinic and sat next (2M) to a chap who said he worked in Cambridge, we spoke about C19 and he said he was a research Dr and usually worked on nasties such as HIV, he said testing would change in the next week as something 'big' was on stream. He couldn't say much but said the equipment they used was being adapted fr C19

 

I'm guessing he was on about this

https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/rapid-covid-19-diagnostic-test-developed-by-cambridge-team-to-be-deployed-in-hospitals

we live in hope (Cornwall actually)

It might be good but a few digits need extracting rapidly.

wheres that wall?

9 hours ago, NIK said:

Hi,

 

There could be all sorts of reasons for more individual road journeys. It was six days since the UK 'every home lockdown' and the government I think recommended doing a weekly shop. Also some businesses and new volunteer organisations have been using people to do new shifts and in 2020's Britain that can lead to people using a car to do those shifts.

 

Also some people may have been coming out of specialised lockdown yesterday.

 

Maybe the risks of doing a car journey need to be considered. I guess that will need to involve the latest health info, human factors, increase in infection/contamination during a normal journey, chances of car breaking down, consequences of road accidents multiplied by probability of different types of road accident, percentage of emergency staff available to deal with road accidents etc. As there is no analogue in UK history to this crisis.

 

Take care.

 

Nick

plus of course add the potential of some 30+road deaths a day  to the already unpleasant reading figures.

3 hours ago, Nearholmer said:

Where? By whom? 
 

What I’ve observed over the past few days is some ploddish coppers overstep the mark, followed by a strong steer towards sensiblenesses from their bosses, and few idiots flouting the legal limits of SD, and in the most extreme cases getting fined or imprisoned for it by the courts.

 

The crazy plods, and the crazy flouters are the outliers.

 

In the middle, a great stodge of sensible police officers, and sensible citizens, all negotiating their way through exceptionally difficult times.

 

Yes, mega important to reset to normal, repeal the ‘lockdown’ laws, return to normal policing as fast as possible when circumstance permits (remember how it all went wrong during and after the miner’s strike?) etc etc, but it seems a bit soon to get exercised about the loss of our liberties yet. Most people are more concerned about the loss of their loved ones.

 

As for the difference between the guidance and the law: the law normally acts as a fence at the outer-edge of social conventions, the problem is that we didn’t have a set of social conventions suitable to ensure collective wellbeing during a very-threatening pandemic, so we have government guidance instead.

 

Social conventions are ‘self policing’, social pressures keep most of the order, and until the government guidance “embeds”, and become social conventions, or until society tacitly decides that actually it wants to establish some other set of ‘pandemic conventions’ (which could happen .... the country could ‘wave two fingers’ at the guidance as currently set), there is bound to be a bit of a settling-down period.

 

 

 

None of the civil liberties stuff or for that matter any of the social right or wrong matters a damn, people are dying of this and it is incumbent on all of us to do our best to prevent as much of that as possible. We have only got the advice we have got etc etc.

Sort out the right or wrong when it's over. which it will be, it is my prayer that as many of us as possible will be here to see it. That will be the time to hold the idiots monkeys plonkers etc to account' there's no point in fussing about that now

If you ask 117 lawyers or doctors their opinion about something you will get234 answers and they will all be different

I get the impression that there is a slight oddness about testing.

The purpose is to identify the victim , trace contacts isolate and treat. This approach which has been used effectively in the smallpox outbreak in the70's in Birmingham, and for goodness sake at least twice in Uganda, both events when I lived there, and as a medical student in the 70's. This process was abandoned pretty quickly in this out break, very possibly as a blind side to the fact that there were not enough testing kits available.

now testing is just a question of who should be off work or who can go back when self isolating. This is important but a bit like pig weighing, but there are about 25% of NHS staff off for self isolation or sick untested and undiagnosed, who should be tested yesterday.

I think that we owe them that at least

What I am finding really depressing is the lack of testing and the puny political excuses for it not happening quickly enough. Still we are where we are we have to somehow crawl out of the box.

14 minutes ago, APOLLO said:

 What is significant is that this is only a model assuming that the current lockdown works.

 

Maybe this will help in the near future

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/31/new-contact-tracing-app-could-key-ending-coronavirus-lockdown/

 

Brit15

49 minutes ago, Ramblin Rich said:

Sorry I'm very late coming to this.

Has anyone else linked to the FT tracker? I have a certain morbid fascination with the graphs.

https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest

This plots the cases on a logarithmic scale, so if the cases are rising exponentially (doubling every 'x' days) it gives a straight line graph. The slope of the graph relates to the rate of doubling and the graphs have dotted lines showing doubling every day, 2 days, 3 days, 1 week. If the rate of growth is slowing, the line will start to curve down away from straight; if the rate is increasing, the line begins curving upward. Different countries (and certain badly affected areas) are plotted for comparison. You really want a near horizontal line to show no increase in cases.

In the UK as a whole, there is a hint that the line for total cases is easing down away from doubling every 3 days, but the increase in number of deaths is not really changing yet.

I do fear for the US as it's growth rate and total numbers are well above others at this stage.

 

its actually a simple Gaussian type curve, like a thin bell, in normal un- modified populations. any epidemic starts. The problem is that mathematics can translate that into anything it likes, straight lines steep lines etc etc the fact of the matter is that at some point the curve goes steeply up and there's not a lot you can do about it until it peaks and starts down. The up side is that the down is nice and steep like the up.

SWMBO wont let me go out as I'm nearly 71 with an interesting medical history I feel quite guilty but we are down to once a week and online stuff .I bought a hair strimmer which about sums it up

51 minutes ago, Joseph_Pestell said:

 

Please, name and shame. I am not a cruise ship person but I would certainly campaign for a boycott of any cruise company that gives Andrew Wakefield a platform.

It was called (and maybe even the next one as well0 the Conspire-a Sea cruise and i think the ship was the Ruby Princess.

Anyway going on a cruise seems to have health implications!

As a retired physician the above = there's always one. I recall a serious drop in immunisations followed shortly by a sharp rise in infections of loads of children who had not been immunised. There was a very serious sounding doctor who wrote for a popular newspaper who had a down on the whole immunisation thing and rubbished it accordingly.  And dont forget that autism and ulcerative colitis are both due to the MMR also fake news but still hsving an effect. The progenitor of that theory got struck off but is still doing the cruise ship and lecture circuits, so the tosh persists. As Goebbels knew if you spout lies often enough and loudly enough people will come to believe it is the truth.

34 minutes ago, Joseph_Pestell said:

 

 

It is perhaps not so much the ventilator itself that is the problem but the need to sedate the patient to be able to use a ventilator. Sedation can not be good for the body when it is trying to protect itself.

elective ventilation requires  an anaesthetic, the patient is sedated and paralysed, in effect nearly killed . At the critical time this is reversed and hopefully they start breathing on their own, then you have to remove the tube , which in itself poses a number of complex problems. CPAP is simply a question of putting a mask on, and monitoring oxygen levels, it is less staff demanding and easier managed . I hope it works

rather like the numpties who drive in crap conditions with no lights. they can see perfectly well

2 minutes ago, Oldddudders said:

Then there are the aerospace manufacturers, who now see their precious order books worth not much more than the virtual paper they are printed on. And a whole sea of support industries, one close to me, suddenly without work or purpose. 

that is the problem with back to normal, theres no progress