Jamiel

Apologies to anyone waiting for me to update on this topic as it has been a while. Above is a before (left) and after (right) on tidying the layout of the points at the 'North' end of the station. The points to the left of the signal box have stayed the same, but those to the right have been tidied to keep th main lines equidistant through this end of the station. Some of the points had the ends twisted and soldered to circuit board sleepers to add a little start to the curves beyond. There wasn't anything I could see to do with the double slip, and the matching point next to it, to make an even curve through this section. Making fine-scale track would have given something much better I know, but this layout is based on Peco Code 75, so it is a compromise I will have to accept. I have done quite a bit of running of stock around the layout, especially some pacifics as the leading bogie is a great give-away of any little kinks in the track. Despite all that a great improvement I think, certainly stock is running much better without little kicks in the movement. There has also been quite a lot of wiring, soldering, and reinforcing under the base boards, which does not lend itself to photographs and updates. I also dropped the soldering iron, and very stupidly caught it, and spend the rest of the evening swapping to ice packs from the freezer to numb the pain. Two very fine blisters to show for my efforts. I have also been starting to mock up the fiddle yard, and experimenting with the off scene track beyond the tunnel, with I have managed to get a 24" radius on the inner line (of four). Plans for the fiddle yard will follow, as it draw them up in more detail. Still now I have the track down through 90% of the area to be modelled (just a bit of good line and siding at the 'South' end to tweak), I can now make a start on the scenery around the track. I will start with the 'North' end tunnel entrance, and the retaining walls, up to and including the bridge with the station building on it. Hopefully more frequent and interesting up dates to follow.

The entrance to the engine shed has been amended (and the track laid, no photo yet), after some discussion at the Leeds club the other night. It now allows access to the shed area from both the up and down passenger main lines, and also leaves the engine shed as a sort of circle which gives a lot of scope for loco movements independently of the rest of the layout. I am told that it does correspond with LMS practice for stock movements, which is good, as accuracy to real practices always gives a more pleasing end result. Here is a photo of the sleeper spacing which has been done the lower of the three lines in view. Not as wide as finescale tracks, but I feel it does improve the look of the Peco track. It does take a lot of time, but I feel it is time well spent improving the look of the station tracks. There will be a little last minute tweaking before ballasting no doubt. The engine shed has a lot of points, and many photos of engine sheds show the tracks well buried by ballast, easier to walk on, and not fast train moments, so that area will need much less of this time consuming sleeper work. And finally another photo of the water tower under construction, a few months ago. The lights on the corners work, as do two lights in the centre between the girders, hence the wiring visible in the water tank section.

Thanks Bri S Here are three views of the water tower, it is obviously not finished. More layers of painting are needed, the roof, ladders, etc. I also have to get the mortar into the edges around the pillar details. The inside has had to be detailed before finishing the whole thing because of the access needed, which is why it looks a bit 'half and half' at the moment. Here are some of the stages of the 'point butchery' I did to get the main lines to stay parallel using the Peco track. Mostly done with a Dremmel, Stanley knife and scalpel. In the third you can see the last of the points from the 'Peco' spacing to the right, which has not been taken up yet, the tracks are now around 35mm closer. Here is an old photo from when the layout was in what is now the nursery, you can see how using the full Peco 'X' skews the central tracks.

Ellerby Thread Index. There are things dotted around the thread, and I do have a habit of starting one thing before finishing another so there is a lot of overlap of topics. These are the main things I have built for the layout with links to the start of the process for each, and sometimes even to the end of some builds. Listed chronologically. Buildings. Water Tower http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-layout-and-loco-detailing-back-to-making-buildings-for-a-while/&do=findComment&comment=630723 Plans and building the Water Tower. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-layout-and-loco-detailing-back-to-making-buildings-for-a-while/page-2&do=findComment&comment=982515 Tunnel Entrance and Cutting Walls. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-layout-and-loco-detailing-back-to-making-buildings-for-a-while/&do=findComment&comment=702169 Goods Building: Plan (front only) and making the model. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-layout-and-loco-detailing-back-to-making-buildings-for-a-while/page-2&do=findComment&comment=1030811 Brick painting and weathering: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-layout-and-loco-detailing-back-to-making-buildings-for-a-while/page-4&do=findComment&comment=1070034 Signal Box. Plan: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-layout-and-loco-detailing-back-to-making-buildings-for-a-while/page-5&do=findComment&comment=1073894 Building: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-layout-and-loco-detailing-back-to-making-buildings-for-a-while/page-6&do=findComment&comment=1107717 Signal box finishing. https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-buildings-rolling-stock-scratch-kit-building/&do=findComment&comment=3171144 Main Station Building. Station building in progress 2016, scratch built following plans seen at the National Rail Museum Plans: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-layout-and-loco-detailing-back-to-making-buildings-for-a-while/page-11&do=findComment&comment=2148779 Building the Main Station Building: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-layout-and-loco-detailing-back-to-making-buildings-for-a-while/page-14&do=findComment&comment=2396724 Continued, lighting and building the footbridge steps and the outside areas. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-back-to-the-station-building-others-buildings-rolling-stock-index/page-19&do=findComment&comment=2765103 Newsagent building. Kibri corner shop kit bashed and anglicised. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-layout-loco-detailing-making-buildings-index/page-17&do=findComment&comment=2642745 Department Store (Walthers Argossy Bookstore x2) Weaver's Department Store, adapted from two Walther's Bookstore kits. Kit bashing two Walther's kits and anglicising them to make a large town department store. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-comet-black-5-kit-buildings-rolling-stock-injuries/page-22&do=findComment&comment=3024955 continued. https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-buildings-rolling-stock-scratch-kit-building/&do=findComment&comment=3419149 Arcade Shops Work in progress. Based on the Kibri Cornerhouse kit, some sections cast off in resin and a hint of Vicar Lane buildings in Leeds. https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-buildings-rolling-stock-scratch-kit-building/&do=findComment&comment=3560895 Rolling Stock. *These projects are either in progress or waiting to be picked up again. Some not marked with this may still need a few little things ading to them, but are more or less finished. Catfish & Dogfish. Cambrian kits, detailed. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-layout-and-loco-detailing-back-to-making-buildings-for-a-while/page-7&do=findComment&comment=1377584 Presflo's * Dapol kit detailed (mostly): http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-layout-and-loco-detailing-back-to-making-buildings-for-a-while/page-8&do=findComment&comment=1861494 Crosti 9F. Hornby Crosti 9F, detailed and weathered. Detailing the Hornby Railroad model: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-layout-and-loco-detailing-back-to-making-buildings-for-a-while/page-10&do=findComment&comment=2049838 Posts on the 'Railroad Crosti 9F' thread: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/80314-railroad-crosti-9f/page-32&do=findComment&comment=2042444 Dapol/Airfix Class B tankers and Slaters Rectangular Tank Wagons. https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-buildings-rolling-stock-scratch-kit-building/&do=findComment&comment=2199436 Second batch, and scroll up for Cambrian Sturgeon. https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-buildings-rolling-stock-scratch-kit-building/&do=findComment&comment=3625253 Rectangular Tank Wagons, other wagon kits and Bachmann Class 47 minor detailing. Over a couple of pages. https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-buildings-rolling-stock-scratch-kit-building/&do=findComment&comment=2211452 Class 29 Diesel. Hornby body detailed, Bachmann class 25 chassis: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-layout-and-loco-detailing-back-to-making-buildings-for-a-while/page-12&do=findComment&comment=2284198 Bulleid Diesel 10202 Silverfox body kit, Hornby Railroad Class 40 chassis: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-layout-and-loco-detailing-back-to-making-buildings-for-a-while/page-13&do=findComment&comment=2331005 Class 129 Parcels DMU. Craftsman conversion kit, DC Kits cabs, Comet parts on a Replica Railways chassis. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-layout-loco-detailing-making-buildings-index/page-18&do=findComment&comment=2690318 LMS Inspection Saloon.* Comet brass kit with additional parts from the box of bits. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-back-to-the-station-building-others-buildings-rolling-stock-index/page-20&do=findComment&comment=2818720 Caprotti Black 5 * Another Comet brass kit of Ivatt's wonderfully brutal take on the Black 5. Not quite the final version he did on the last two built, maybe that is for later build. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-lms-inspection-saloon-comet-station-buildings-rolling-stock-index/page-20&do=findComment&comment=2864658 Dummy Class 25 Bachmann spare body and parts made into a dummy for double heading. https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-buildings-rolling-stock-scratch-kit-building/&do=findComment&comment=3005252 Class 120 DMU * Build of a Class 120 DMU based on the Craftsman conversion kits with lots of other parts added. Craftsman conversion kit/etches plus lots of other bits. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-comet-black-5-kit-buildings-rolling-stock/page-23&do=findComment&comment=3239911 Lancashire and Yorkshire Class 23 Sadle Tank. Build of a Class23 from a London Road Models brass kit, to be a BR LMR loco. https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-4mm-buildings-rolling-stock-scratch-kit-building/&do=findComment&comment=4200041 Class 124 Transpennine. Initial start, just the cabs and a first stab at the driving car bodies using Replica Railways Mk1 coach bodies. https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-4mm-buildings-rolling-stock-scratch-kit-building/&do=findComment&comment=2967688 Work with the Worsley Works etches. https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-4mm-buildings-rolling-stock-scratch-kit-building/&do=findComment&comment=4416834 Other Things. Weathering LMS Twins https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-buildings-rolling-stock-scratch-kit-building/&do=findComment&comment=2282268 Co-Bo Class 28 https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-buildings-rolling-stock-scratch-kit-building/&do=findComment&comment=3201055 Shed: Building and insulating the garden shed for the layout (not a loco shed). http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53110-ellerby-layout-and-loco-detailing-back-to-making-buildings-for-a-while/page-8&do=findComment&comment=170884 For hacking back Peco points just scroll down this page. A rare shot of stock actually on the layout, hopefully this sort of shot will become more frequent in time. Initial post. I hope this layout is not at a too early stage to start a topic about it here. Although there are two places in Yorkshire called Ellerby, this model is not based on either of them, it was originally going to be called Ouse-Gate but the name was changed after the birth of my daughter Ella Beatrice, hence 'Ella B'. It is my first layout after coming back to the hobby after a break of thirty years or so, and I am quite aware that is is ambitious, but it is what I want to build. It did have a false start and a change of room. It was originally in the room that became the nursery, then moved to a garage extension, it agained few feet in length. For its third move to a shed when we moved to York several feet more were added, and when we move again the layout will increase again (2019). Principally it is is a British Rail Midland region station, but does have some Eastern region traffic, especially expresses travelling towards Leeds and Harrogate (a bit like Wakefiled). It is set mostly in the early sixties, but I will cover from the late fifties up to around nineteen eighty. Having been a spotter in the 70's I could not ignore some blue diesels, but I have become drawn more towards steam as I have started collecting rolling stock. There are also a few locomotives that do not belong in Northern England, but since I like them they will get the odd outing on the rails, some as specials, and some just for the heck of it. I have made the baseboards from 9mm ply, and although a couple of sections are not up to the standard of the later sections, it is all movable and lockable. There are many influences on the layout, which I would bes describe as being a 'mongrel'. The central four tracks, with bay platforms either side reflect stations I knew as a boy, Selby, Doncaster and York. I have decided to set station and shed in a valley setting, so that all the tracks are in a cutting, or sided by warehouses and other central town buildings, thus removing the need for a 'back scene'. The station building sits on a road bridge, like Keighley and some of the Great Central Railway stations. This also makes 7 coach trains look longer as they will disappear under the road bridge and station building. The track disappears into two tunnels at the north end of the station. It is a circular layout, with a fiddle yard (when built at some point) opposite the modelled area. There are two main passenger lines running through the centre of the station. Two goods lines run at the side of the station, which to the North also supply a bay platform for local services. At the South they follow the cutting through the town. There are two bay platforms running to the South of the station. There is a four lane engine shed tucked away behind the station, with a turntable and coaler/water tower. The first building I built is definitely an interloper, being the arched water tower from Plaistow/West Ham. I discovered it in Volume 3 of the LMS Engine Sheds series by Chris Hawkins and George Reeve, and thought it was just so beautiful I could not resist modelling it. Plans and various stages of progress are on my website, but needs more updating to catch up with where I have got to now. http://www.jamieloch...WaterTower.html EDIT, and now on teh first couple of pages of this thread. I was planing to scratch build all the buildings, but using bought etches and mouldings whereever possible. Kit bashing has added to the buildings as time has progressed. Rolling stock is mostly ready to run, my first conversion was a class 128 DMU from the Craftsman kit, after that more kit building and bashing has happened. A lot of the goods stock will be kits, Dapol, Parkside Dundas & Cambrian. I know some people are very dedicated to following a specific prototype location, but for this layout I wanted to make something which I could play with, but retain a sensible working for the tracks. Track is Peco Code 75. Finescale would have been lovely, but as a starter layout, I would never have got under-way. I have been taking a 'Dremmel' to some points in order to make them fit better, and also the short 'X' to make a scissors that doesn't force the tracks into a wide and un-natural spacing. This was only done after a first attempt, which will be shown in some photos soon, so the track at the 'South' end of the station has been taken up, and redone, now I have more experience. I am also removing every tenth sleeper from the sections of flexible track, separating the sleepers, and spacing them a little wider to make the track look less factory/American. I plan to heavily balast the shed, and some of the station, to disguise some of the unspaced aras of track. The scissors crossing will also be heavily balasted, and cutting together all the different Peco tracks left some poorly matched sleepers. Peco Bullhead track is also being added ehre and there, I wish it had been around when I started, but too late for much of the layout now. Control is DCC, which I am pretty pleased with, but am aware you do have to watch out for shorts, especially if you have live frogs, and can shunt up to them. Control of points in through simple throw switches, I didn't want to go all the way to computer control, I wanted to feel a bit hands on with track settings. I should also say that I was a member of the Leeds Model Railway Society, the members of which have given me a great deal of advice and help. I have also been inspired by many of the threads on this forum, and a few of the well known independant modellers websites. Plan of the station and depot from 2014, this is changing a little as I now have the layout in a shed and have more space. The facing points at the 'North end' are being re-laid. I look forward to hearing advice and comment from the many experienced modellers on the forum. This post is updated from time to time, latest July 2019. Jamie