Thanks for your confirmation. Don't worry, I wouldn't dream of doing anything to them; as you say it would be a criminal act. I should have mentioned that before I asked the question to save you from any anxiety. I'm modelling early 50's based on the ex- L&Y part of SW Lancashire around Preston/Southport/Liverpool. From my own memory we still had numbers of coaches in LMS colours then and I have a few already. I suppose it's doubtful if these types travelled to those parts but they will in my world. Yes, they are both signed and dated. I don't know who Gostude is, or at least I didn't until I just looked on Google, not that I'm much the wiser (I'll look later). Thanks again.