Paul Cram

11 hours ago, micklner said:

Couple of photos of my ancient 1960/70's? Norton J25 when finished on below link. They were on here as well, but they were lost in the software crash.

 

Like all of the Norton kits I have built, they are all basic, but look ok eventually !! If you need I can measure mine for Boiler diameters  etc.

 

https://www.lner.info/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1624&hilit=lner+j25&start=1275

The Gearge Norton kit was oeiginally an 07 models kit. I purchased one from them at Expo EM at Paddington in the early 80s. I did get an etch for the boiler off Gearge when he took over the kits as the oringinal boiler was a turend brass and difficult to solde the firebox sides to.

Where do you apply code? Gift card says not found.

Birchwood Casey do Brass black for use on brass.

The NER used plain disc wheels.

6 hours ago, PMP said:

Xxx as can’t recall the names, and I think the following is the ‘basic’ history.

K&L was I think the initials of Ken xxx from scalefour society and Len xxx the designer/toolmaker. IIRC they developed the system including some architectural bits, and marketed initially through the S4 society. News travelled that it was good stuff and a deal was done where Maygib distributed it to the trade in the early mid 80’s. I think it got too time consuming to look after and the track range was sold and changed it’s name to C&L and they sold direct and distributed direct to the trade from a premises in Bristol. After a good few years the C&L track system was sold to the current owner.

 

Ken York, Len Newman?

The K was Lens wife at the time Kay. When they got divirced Len changed it to C for Chris his eldest son. The chairs were developed by Len and the East London Area group of the S4 society. They were originally for P4 but when Alan Gibson got involved he wanted then for all 4mm scales. Exacroscale was a later project after Len sold C&L to John Pottinger.

I get the same error

Yes. It appears every time I select a topic.

Why does this appear every time I click on something?

11 hours ago, gr.king said:

Thanks Paul - were those the only ones surviving in service in any of the years after 1922?

No The numbers for 1926  are: 77  & 15 1927 64 & 9 1928 46 & 7 1929 31 & 6.

1923 184 & 25

12 hours ago, t-b-g said:

 

I recall having a conversation with Malcolm Crawley many years ago, so my memory might be faulty, about some of the surviving NER 6 wheelers being retained for use as trailer cars with steam rail motors.

 

GNR 6 wheelers survived longer and Malcolm could recall travelling from Doncaster to Leeds in them in the late 1940s, around the time of nationalisation.

The figures quoted were taken from the LNER supplement to the carriage stock book of 1919 annotated in pencil as Asst Mechanical engineer Darlington

6 hours ago, gr.king said:

Thanks Mick, I accept that.  I always forget about the NER vehicles, probably because I'm usually thinking in the post-grouping context (inevitably if we're discussing here the "LNER" versions of the fantasy-model coaches) and my impression is that the NER had wholly (or almost wholly) eliminated its fleet of in-service passenger carrying six wheelers before 1923.  Perhaps somebody might enlighten us on any survivors still in revenue service post-grouping?

There were 9 daigarm 15 third class 6 wheelers 32' and 4 34'342 withdrawn in 1930. There was 1 diagram 68 first 32' withdrawn the same year. With the exception of several first and 3rd saloons these were the last NER 6 wheelers.

I have measured the oo spacers on the LRM D23 kit that I am currently building and they are 13mm wide. Thye J5 spacers are 12mm on the test etches.

Yes this was a Paul Craig design which I test built for LRM

3 hours ago, jwealleans said:

Thnaks, Paul.   I'll let John have the time to reply before I say anything else publicly.   Gibsons use a slightly greater B2B than Romfords, don't they?

The back to back isn't fixed. I can't remember what I set it to as I normally model in P4. I think I used 14.5mm. The distance between the splashers is 23.4mm

Hi Jonathon

Om the test build the frames over the bearings measures 13.3mm. I used gibson wheels.

I was a stewrad at the MRJ exhibition and yes it was packed. The other layout that was a once only affair was South Shields. As an North Eastern modeller that was an attraction for me.

Brake fluid also works

On 30/11/2022 at 05:15, kevinlms said:

Now working OK, Thanks for fixing it Andy. If you didn't and it fixed itself - who knows...

That hasn't worked for me on any page since the wor pop up started.

The NER built 13 32 ton bogie hoppers and 100 40 ton bogie hoppers in 1903 but difficulties were experienced using them so no more were buuilt. (Tomlinson pg728))

37 minutes ago, John M Upton said:

I am trying to work this out, I am thinking of buying an LBSC signal box in N scale, list price is £26.31, put it in cart, price goes up to £31.57.  How?

 

On top of that is the already known about silly postage costs, processing fee and VAT but none of those extra charges add up or in any way seem to relate to the  £5.26 difference between list and cart price!

+20% VAT

According to the slaters website they are pinpoints. The ones I bought were pinpoints as were the O gauge ones they replaced.

POW sides

2 hours ago, neal said:

The detail pack including the coal etc was a separate item (delivered late by Heljan) and sent separately by Hatton’s with early sales.  I think they have long since run out of these… None were supplied with the Mallard A4 release AFAIK.  That said, having tried to fit them to 60009, they were not of great quality and not having them is no massive loss,

 

Sorry that the tread plates are not there, you might ask Hattons if they have spares from returned models.

 

I would be minded to give your model a chance, if the bodywork is fine and it runs well (with the bogie wheel reattached) that might be the lesser of two evils (unless you were thinking of a refund).

 

I have 3 of these models and have been lucky (although I didn’t  benefit from the latest discount).  All run well, indeed I ran two of them on the rolling road for 5 hours each last weekend with no issue.

 

Neal

Have you tried pulling  train with them? Thats when they fail.

2 hours ago, stewartingram said:

I'm assuming these potential faults are on the latest releases? I have one of the origal releases, and don't have the bos so can't quote the SKU.

 

I presume so as I can't find an SKU number on my box.

9 minutes ago, whart57 said:

No one does exquisite ready to run P4 though do they? There are inconvenient truths in all commercial scales and TT-120 is no exception. There is nothing scale about the wheel profile for example. 

 

The narrow gauge of 00 really only jars when looking down the track, which we don't generally do. An exception to that generalisation is small pre-Grouping locos which can look wrong with the wheels too far in. Outside cranks fix that though 

What about Suttons Locomotive works?