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Well! Partially it would be my lack of knowledge of what can be done ( I look at it too simply?). And partially I have designed a circuit to suit my Seep motors for the fiddle points and their associated LEDs and it (currently) suits my purpose to continue in the same vein. I shall need to ponder some more to understand what is doing what, or to present a better question!

The DPDT would be the route switch on the panel for the motor, the SPST is for the LED and operated by the point blades interesting suggestions from John KS. I shall have a separate circuit for LEDS anyway, as I’m using some Seep motors in the fiddle yard. So I presume this is an alternative and won’t save me any wiring. I isolated routes A/B and C/D from the point heel as in some cases there could be an alternative feed operating trains on one of the tracks. As there’s no particular challenge I presume my diagram is effectively correct? thanks again!

Crikey! Thanks guys, for the various suggestions and drawings. I’m operating analogue, and I understand the reverse wiring of the DPDT and the need for a regulated supply, thanks. That covers terminals 1 and 2 I think! my concern was whether any of terminals 4 to 9 were connected to 1 and 2 in any way. I see from Brian Lamberts diagrams it’s not the case and explains others’ descriptions of them being SPDT switches. So, I take track feeds from rail L to terminal 4 and rail R to terminal 5 and the action of the motor will feed either 4 or 5 to terminal 6 which will go to the frog. Fine! I intended to link rails across rail breaks at the heel of points (in selected locations) if the point motor was set in a particular direction. I’m hoping I’ve got the logic right for the 2nd Switch on the motor - see attached - but because of linking a number of rails it suggests to me I need an additional switch as shown i also designed a separate LED circuit operated from a 6 way 2 pole switch; one pole for controller selection and the other pole for the led circuit. On that basis I’ve not included anything linked to the motor contact no 3, but show a separate switch for the LED. I hope this all makes sense!!!!

Hi - I’ve got some Omega motors on order, never had to wire one before. What on earth is their wiring instructions like! Is anyone out there able to provide a plain English description or plan for wiring? Please , I beg you!!! I hope to operate by stud and probe. Will that work? How will terminal 3 light a LED if I want one led for left and another for right? I think I understand terminals 4,5,6 , so what’s 7,8,9 for? Not born with the knowledge and I only have one life to try and decipher it.......

Hi all; does anyone have dimensional drawings of Reddish depot? I can’t find anything online! Cheers

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Thanks both for your comments; ah, then, the rub of the green when using a kit! But it'll do us fine for our model railway. Just to clarify, as noted in our other entry for Finchley Road station, the 'box was built by Bern Munday for the club layout, painted by him and weathered by me. I don't think Bern will trouble himself too much about the lever handles Regards!

These models were built by Bern Munday for East Beds Model Railway Society for our new club layout Finchley Road St Johns Wood, with some of the painting and weathering by me. The following words from Bern describe the station models: Our two entries are of Finchley Road & Frognal station (see separate entry for the signal box) on the Hampstead Junction Railway (North London Railway) in 1959. This was a time when the NLR was run-down after the war and the models aim to reflect the neglect of the period. Because the track layout on our model does not conform precisely with the layout at Finchley Road & Frognal we have revived the old name 'Finchley Road (St John's Wood)' that the station bore when first constructed in 1860. It was renamed Finchley Road & Frognal in 1880. All models are 4mm to 1 foot scale and based on photographs sourced from various books and publications, Holborn Library and, in the case of aerial photographs, from English Heritage. Archive mapping came from Ordnance Survey. The original buildings have long been swept away, being replaced by a 'concrete shed' at street level. The main station building and the platform waiting rooms are scratchbuilt from plasticard. Window frames and doors are scratchbuilt from microstrip and various thicknesses of plastic sheet to match the prototype. The working colour light signals are from Eckon but with the bracket modified to suit the location. Building and platform signage is by Trackside Signs. The platform awnings are also scratchbuilt, predominantly from brass, but with some plasticard detailing. The support posts are from varying sizes of brass tube, brackets are from the Scale Link range and the valancing is from Muswell Models. The hanging lamps are built by cutting the pin off a drawing pin, drilling a hole in the centre of the resulting disc and inserting a lacemakers pin to represent the bulb and support conduit. The roofs have the correct 3.6° slope front to back. In addition, Bern has built a representation of the cutting that existed between the station and Hampstead tunnel, including the rather large supporting girders. The cutting has been built on a curve to suit the layout. The girders were designed and 3D printed specially with help from Robert Fryers of the club, and I've included a picture here to give a sense of the approach to the station from the east. The layout is still in development, with work currently focused on laying track in the fiddle yard and working on the electrics concurrently. We hope to have the layout ready for exhibiting in "not too many years" - look out for it at our own show, and we already have an early invitation for it to appear at the Chilterns show when ready. Occasional updates can be found at www.ebmrs.org.uk. I hope you find the project as interesting as we have! Alan, Chairman EBMRS The first two pictures show the Finchley Road station entrance, The following 4 pictures show views of the rear of the station, the steps to platform levels and then a view with the platform buildings and canopies set up, the 4th picture showing it all temporarily in place on the baseboards at our show this year. The platform buildings: the first picture here being a good close-up before painting. The second picture - Up platform - was taken in late afternoon sunshine! Picture 3 is the Down platform. The Hampstead tunnel cutting, looking toward the station.

Our two entries are of Finchley Road & Frognal station on the Hampstead Junction Railway (North London Railway) in 1959. This was a time when the NLR was run-down after the war and the models aim to reflect the neglect of the period. Because the track layout on our model does not conform precisely with the layout at Finchley Road & Frognal we have revived the old name 'Finchley Road (St John's Wood)' that the station bore when first constructed in 1860. It was renamed Finchley Road & Frognal in 1880. All models are 4mm to 1 foot scale and based on photographs sourced from various books and publications, Holborn Library and, in the case of aerial photographs, from English Heritage. Archive mapping came from Ordnance Survey. The signal box is a standard LNWR Type 4 box. The upper parts are from a Churchward Models etched brass kit. However, I didn't like the cast resin base that came with the kit and replaced it with one scratch-built from plasticard. A Springside Models interior detailing kit and some fire buckets finish the whole thing off.

My apologies if I missed it among all the posts, but are entries to be posted as a new forum topic? Thanks!

Hi all, sorry for the delayed updates - I have been through redundancy & subsequent retirement and dealing with life, not the least now becoming Chairman of the East Beds MRS! I have also started 2 additional layouts as test-beds for Hackney, Begborough (BR Blue OO) and Madford (N Gauge LMS 1930s in principle). Hackney has been progressing slowly - fiddle yard track (Peco code 75) is now laid but needs gapping at board ends, and wiring needs to start. I have started building C&L points for the scenic section and laying in some blockwork for the scenery. As for that, I stated this will blur the geography of the area and some will be pure invention to purely please my wants. So, I have arranged for the eastern end scenic break to be the Cambridge line bridge south of Hackney Downs station. Hackney (Central) is being moved westwards a few yards to have platforms poking out under the bridge. I shall include an element of Cottrill Road and Spurstowe Terrace which were adjacent on the north side of the line. Centrally I will include parts of Navarino Road and the 9 house backs for Navarino Grove. Between there and the Cambridge line I am including a nod to the real allotments, but inventing the rest of that space because of how I have changed the railway environment, principally reversing the coal yard (inspired by Kensington High Street and Walworth Road coal drops) and including some industrial buildings (eg from Stoke Newington) as a backdrop. The other side of Navarino Road is pure invention, though I am retaining the actual road names of Greenwood Road and Fasset Road. This area will have a tube station building (Arnos Grove), a small bus station and a cinema (Letchworth), with other commercial buildings. One example will be based upon Shoe Rebuilders of Stratford. Period of operation will be circa 1959. All sorts of steam, early diesels and a fabricated timetable that will include boat trains using St Pancras, and a triangular service between North Woolwich, Palace Gates and Ally Pally (via Canonbury/Finsbury). I hope to build some electric units - 501s and Oerlikons - for an erstwhile Poplar service. There is many years work to be done.........

Crikey it has been a long time since I even signed into RMWeb!!! Apols to anyone interested in seeing updates. In the main I have been tidying the baseboards, joining, levelling, laying cork and painting the baseboard tops. Some track is now being laid. This is Peco in the off-scene parts, and C&L in the scenic - except the C&L track moulds are currently broken before I've purchased any! I'm hoping they will be fixed before the Warley show. I shall be aiming to upload an image shortly, showing the Dalston end of the fiddle yard

Howdy do all. The Historical Model Railway Society has a range of original drawings from Metropolitan Cammell, and I believe a number of modellers have picked up on these with at least one proposing to go to London Road to discuss - but whether that has taken place I don't know. That was inferred in one of the other Oerlikon threads here on RMWeb, but I've been a bit out of touch with the subject recently. PS Charlie - I've pre-ordered the book - looking forward to it!

Latest view of the shed in the gallery....

Excellent Bob, thanks. Interesting about the Hymek, as I know the Western steam locos were not allowed on the North London. Especially like the Black 5 on the troop train - first I've heard of that, despite seeing records of Battle of Britain locos on such.

Fantastic - I wish I'd had the opportunity, but wasn't born until '62! would very much like to hear any of your reminiscences around types of trains and locos used - both interesting and useful... Regards

I've spent a long time planning a model railway, and I now have the space in a 20' garden shed. The plans are to build a representative railway based on the North London Line, blurring the geography and history between Dalston and Hackney Graham Road such that the original Graham Road yard developed differently as a small exchange yard. It has links to the (originally planned extension to) East London Line, and a junction to the Midland Line (near to Harringay) as the Midland wished to benefit from the East London Line link. In addition the London Underground (Metropolitan Line) has extended out from Faringdon to Walthamstow/Leytonstone which passes through Hackney, and there is a link line from Graham Road yard which temporarily joins the LT line for a couple of miles to a (real) wharf on the Grand Union Canal near Faringdon. It will be busy! The usual cross-London stuff, all manner of stock and motive power for the late 50s/early 60s. At some point I'll post a plan......

As an aside to this, I'd been expecting a book on the North London Electrics from the North London Railway Historical Society, but it''s about a year behind suggested publishing date. Interesting Vince is using the 2-BIL - I have recently considered that, as it has a 8'9" wheel base and looks reasonably similar. With regards to the underframes, we have had Pete Stanton of the LNWRS considering whether they could be matched to any ordinary LNWR coaching stock but we've drawn a blank so far. Haven't even gone near a roof yet!

That took a few minutes! Although very close, the drawings I have show slight differences. The Motor Car measures up at 57' over headstocks, bogies are 8'9" at 37'6" centres. The Trailer and Driving Trailer are the same as each other at 56'11" over headstocks, bogies are 9'0" at 38'0" centres. These two drawings are 14065 and 14071 in the HMRS catalogue. I hope that helps for a start. The next questions, then, are - what is the closest match to bogie design and underframe design available commercially, particularly for the Motor car? Roof profiles are quirky. Anything else?!

Howdy-do fellow Oerlikon enthusiasts. I have a set of 3 underframe drawings from the HMRS Metro-Cammell collection dated 1914, one for each car. As they are at 1 inch to the foot scale they will not be photocopied! But can be purchased from the HMRS at around £15 each, if you want all the glorious detail. Give me a while to dig them out and I'll see what the measurements are. Cheers