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Hey Jim, how did the coal run go? And any pics?

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Hello Everyone,

I managed to find some time to start a new project as I want to get something in the pipeline before sorting out some older projects.

so Puzzle time, what is it an who built it?

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Also does anyone know of any photos of them, as I am currently working from a set of plans kindly supplied to me but cannot find any shots of the real thing?

Alan, thanks for the update, that is very useful.

HSTFAN, glad you thanks for the suggestion, probably a bit big for my layout and also expensive I would imagine, especially the boiler. I do at one point want to do a similar style of wagon MR built but not sure when this will happen.

 

Regards,

Wild Boar Fell

I only meant the boiler/steam drum as these wagons carried the boiler/steam drums to uk coal fired power stations under construction in the 60s/70s and I've seen a pic of it delivering a boiler/steam drum to didcot power station on the ash loop right next to a cooling tower.

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Hey,

Have you got any plans for a oo gauge 3D printed BR 290 ton boiler carrying wagon with a boiler steam drum on it ???

They have one at NRM Shildon though when I was there a few months ago I couldn't find it.

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That 47 (West Coast - post 485) seems to have very big buffers. Is it an illusion?

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That's because it's a class 57 number 57314 WCR

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Isn't most nuclear waste actually things like overalls and boiler suits?

That's called low level waste

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That's probably because it'll have picked up on the original PSA (Private Siding Agreement) for the site in question, which would have been used for the TIPLOC location code; if you change names on locations every time ownership/company title changes, you'd need a lot of Tippex. As long as the train and the bill go to the right place, that's all that matters.

Thanks for info That's true it would be silly to keep on changing it everytime someone else takes ownership of the site.

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Hi HSTFAN13,

 

Interestingly, Realtimetrains http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/R73361/2013/09/16/advanced still call Sellafield, Sellafield B.N.F, (also the link is for the derailed train - This service was cancelled between Salthouse Jn and Sellafield B.N.F. due to problem with the infrastructure!!!!!)

 

So I was thinking assuming that kevpeo may well have meant the same, but of course, only he can comment on this....

 

Kind regards

 

Ian

I understand its ok I know realtime trains sometimes puts the wrong names for locations

Haha on realtime trains it says 'Dungeness CEGB, which isn't who runs it now and the CEGB is not a company anymore.

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Cheers Ian.  I set off to work this morning to find the two 57's and train still there and idling away ( they didn't leave them running all night did they? That would please the residents of Salthouse Road!)  Trains had started running again with some delays even though nothing had been moved by this time, so why not yesterday? The re-railing 'big yellow truck' arrived at 10am, to find it couldn't get under the bridge!  By lunchtime they had one wagon back on and the 57's took two back to the BNFL terminal. At this point as well as the 'big yellow truck' their were 14 other railway road vehicles in attendance, not including a police car! When I came out of work the 57's were back but shut down and the remaining wagon still sat in the same spot. Maybe tomorrow? Kev.

Btw it's not BNFL anymore they was defunct in 2009 sellafield is now owned by sellafield ltd/sellafield sites under contract by the NDA

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Hi

Is there any more progress on the FGA/FFA Wagons?

And is there any more kits coming out soon/new kits to be announced ?

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Hello Everyone,

Thanks for your post, yes  I agree it would be silly to duplicate the S-Kits model as it looks from lyneux's photos that they can be made into a very nice model. I think in time I will probably stick to the Sheerness Steel ones you mentioned Richard. Does anyone have a photo of these Gloucester Fast Freight bogies (mainly for interest) as doing bogies isn't a favourite of mine, but would be interested to see what they look like.

HSTFAN, thanks also for your post, yes they are viridor as you correctly said, what we cannot understand is why a few are green though. Thanks also for the tip off on another thread about the Biomass wagon plans, I now have a copy of Rail Express and can see just how big these wagons are, they almost make the sheerness PXA's look like 16 tonners. I don't think I will produce them though on cost ground and I suspect someone may have them up their sleeves.

Regards,

Wild Boar Fell

Sorry, I should of explained more ...

The green and blue are the viridor livery , as the binliners are viridor owned that's the livery there being painted in

Also the green doesn't mean biomass waste as binliners(what ever livery)carry RDF - Refuse-derived Fuel

Also yes I have that rail express aswell

It's sad that you can't make it

But I'm sure as you said that someone will

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Wild Boar, those containers have come out very well indeed.

 

I will order some once I have been paid and hopefully in time I can build a rake up using your containers and the modified Hornby KFA. I saw one of the green containers numbered in the 6xxx series the other day but I have also seen blue containers in the same 6xxx so I am not sure what the difference is. They appear to be either repainted and renumbered original GMWA containers or they could even be new build. Maybe there is some changes starting to happen with the forthcoming move to send the waste to the new plant at Runcorn.

 

Super smashing great as a famous comedian presenter said several times ;-)

 

Cheers Paul

The blue and green ones are viridor owned

Runcorn EFW Is run by viridor

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Hi WBF,

I believe the KEA's have been used recently on a Middleton Towers-Ellesmere Port working, carrying silica sand. There is a series of pictures on the DEMU forum (available to members only I'm afraid) showing quite a few still carrying evidence of the round Eurotunnel/TML logo.

They run in sets with "outer" wagons fitted with buffers at one end only as your pic shows. Although there do appear to be some with buffers at both ends. Edit: See below:

 

From the DEMU forum "The Procor Yellow ones that ran in sets of 5 (inners and outers) were for Segments and the Tiger Blue ones (singles) for the Minestone, both being built by Procor at Horbury Junction at the same time." (Ta to Mark S for the info)

 

 

Pics in original use here:

http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/pxatmlyeoman

 

Oh - and there's already a kit available from S-Kits.........

 

 

Cheers,

Mick

They were built on bogies recovered from tank wagons for Procor (on lease to Foster Yeoman) and Tiger Rail (leased to TML?) and used on aggregate trains out of Merehead and channel tunnel construction trains. You can find more photos on Huw Millington's Flickr gallery here:

 

 

 

S-Kits already do a kit of them that looks like this (finished as a Yeoman version):

 

 

 

I've since added the distinctive large hand wheel!

 

Guy

Many thanks for the info guy and mick

Guy: is the s-kits kit a good and easy build?

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There were a couple of designs that were very similar, used for hauling minestone to Sevington as well as segments (some of the segments were cast-iron, and came from a plant in the Black Country). Then there were the Tiphook bogie opens, somewhat shorter than the segment wagons, used to bring in ballast and aggregate.

 

Many thanks for Info

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Hello Everyone,

I am hoping to get some more work done on the crane and the BEP over the weekend so I can hopefully order some prototypes next week, so l may have some more updates soon.

The other day I spotted this at Arpley yard (Warrington), it is a Procor built KEA, does anyone know any history about these wagons as they look very similar to the later Sheerness Steel wagons and would be an easy one to make, I would assume the bogies are a variant of the Gloucester family and judging from the paint maybe owned by LoadHaul for a while? And details would be very interesting.

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Also the possibility of doing the Gypsum containers is looking more likely so I will keep you all posted with any updates regarding them.

Apologies about the lack of 'proper' updates recently,

Regards,

Wild Boar Fell

If they are TMI KEA Wagons...

In a rail express modeller issue is drawings of these wagons sized to 4mm oo gauge

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They were built to carry concrete lining segments for the Channel Tunnel from a plant on the Isle of Grain to Shakespeare Cliff; more recently, they've been used to carry aggregates and scrap:-

http://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/UKRailRollingstock/K-Tops-codes/KEA-ex-TML-bogie-boxes

They were painted a sort of mustardy-yellow when new; the colour in the photos is what that's weathered to after twenty years or so.

What was the other wagons TMI Used during the channel tunnel construction?

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Hey

I ordered one Binliner container can't wait !

I only ordered one as I've never painted a 3d model and I wanted to see how it comes out

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Hi

Do you have any plans for a low level nuclear flask container that's used on the PFA Wagons?

Also do you have any plans for JMA Coal hoppers and JHA limestone wagons?

Sorry though of one more:

A brand new Drax biomass wagon

I'll add a picture

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Done a bit more as the little un is still napping!!

 

Basically fitted up the cab, still not glued though, and painted a few bits of finer detail on it including the light clusters, the front of the black circle, rubbing plate and the grey sides to the gangway, the dusted over green looks so much better now, need to put a fresh cantrail stripe on it though

 

So very nearly finished now, looks the part with the extra bits painted

 

 

 

 

 

I think i can call this project a success!!

Great Job Mate Love The Cabs And Livery

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