Donington Road

At Cock Lane today.  The fields to the west have been divided with a fence, which then continues along the Environment Agency's access road along side Brook Drain towards Hurn Road.

Three o'clock and finished for the day.

I can see this thing getting ambushed if it has to stop for those Joint Line freights crossing........

.......as it is carrying some rather expensive fuel.

Then I got rumbled doing a bit of spying.

Some photos from around the entrance at Hurn Road taken by Trackside ECML this afternoon.

The corner on the road being reconstructed.

Hurn Road looking north towards Glinton, the A15 dual carraigeway is behind the trees on the right.

Looking down Hurn Road towards the ECML.

Looking from the opposite direction, the ECML behind the photographer.

All that is missing is a signpost to say where the next destination is.

Behind the hedge to the left in the previous photo.  A lot of topsoil still heaped up.............

......and still a lot of rubbish to clear up.

25 minutes ago, Richard E said:

 

I bet the contract says it had to be restored to the same condition as it was in before work started.

It does, but sometimes it is not always for the better.

I have circled the manhole cover to give an idea of the before and after.

6 hours ago, Crun said:

Sunday 23rd January

 

More mud n diversions on Hurn Road:

 

Crazy!

Ripped out a perfectly good concrete slab that has had thousands of truck loads of spoil, 40 ton dumpers, dozers and excavators go cross it without making a mark, to be replaced with a four inch layer of tarmac that will rut over the coming years as it is only a single track road.

1 hour ago, Richard E said:

 

Looking at the Glinton Junction end the rails seem equally polished on both up and down lines in the video from @Donington Road. Nice video too.

Thank you Richard.  With regard to the rail heads, there is equal polishing on both lines.  It is just the lighting effect, which on the day of videoing the up line the sunlight had a very orange hue to it compared to the previous and following day where it was a much whiter light.  The mesh fencing along the dive under which is in the centre of the frame is also causing an exposure problem when the sun shines on it.  I had to reduce the exposure post processing.  A similar effect is happening at Lincoln Road where there is quite a contrast between the brighter ballast on the new line and the darker ballast on the Joint Line.  Brighter overcast days tend to be better for video IMO, but then it is usually a bit too cold to be out this time of year.

24 minutes ago, melmerby said:

t'web is a wondrous place

This morning I placed an order for this years garden seeds.

The order went through, I got the payment succesful message, the thank you for your order. etc.

A few minutes after I got an e-mail confirming my order, followed by another saying "sorry, your order has been cancelled as the payment wasn't succesful."

Figure that out!

 

What's more when I tried to log back onto the account to re-do the order, my e-mail address "wasn't recognised" even though they had just sent me an e-mail to it.

 

I did eventually manage to log in after several attempts, re-did the order and so far an hour later it still stands.

Must be an affiliated site of RMweb.

3 hours ago, Richard E said:

Same here - I can see it now. Very odd. I wonder if @Andy Y has any ideas.

3 hours ago, corneliuslundie said:

RMWeb has been very busy and running quite slowly over the past few days. Sometimes it has timed out when I have been trying to access threads. The penalty of success.

I wonder if that had any effect.

Jonathan

Even the post from Melmerby (4th post down on this page) has come alive overnight.  I now see the colourful video picture he embeded insted of the black screen which I took a screenshot of.

8 minutes ago, 31A said:

 

Thanks Mick, but the You Tube sites that gave me that response were nothing to do with RMWeb.  York Station Camera on Railcam.uk.,  and Wolsztyn Steam Train Depot (Polish steam loco depot) web cams, for example.

I have no problem with Youtube.  The video that I posted works like any other when I view it.  The issue is that RMweb was not embedding the link I pasted from my computer (the same machine that I viewed the video) into the post I was sending.

There!!!  what do you make of that?  This computer has sat here for three hours or more doing nothing since I last posted a reply to you.  I go to my email, see three new posts, open up RMweb, refresh the page and start replying to you, paste the link again out of curiosity and RMweb automatically embeds it.

1 hour ago, melmerby said:

Strange that, because I copied the address posted it (to check what would happen) and it immediately embedded, I then went onto another PC to check and it was fine.

I also checked it on an Android tablet and that works fine as well.

1 hour ago, melmerby said:

Here's two screenshots:

 

Windows 10

Very, very strange

We are both using FireFox, I am up to date and have disabled all add-ons and I still cannot embed that video link, in fact, I cannot embed any video from the Garath Dennis site.

I have tried numerous other sites and videos and they will all embed within this post.  I have now fired up another computer running mxLinux and FireFox, and it works fine, I can embed the link every time so it has to be an issue between my windows machine and RMweb.

4 minutes ago, 31A said:

 

I've had that response quite a few times lately when trying to open various Youtube links; when I've clicked on the link again it's worked for me!

 

I have tried every thing I can think of Steve but cannot at the moment pinpoint the problem.  I would most likely think it is another glitch on the RMweb side where only a small minority of users get these occasional issues.  We had one awhile back where the site would keep timing out for a small number of people, a tweak of the time period in the Content I follow menu has banished that issue.

The embeding of a Youtube link is neither here nor there as far as I am concerned, as long as the link is available, although a pretty picture does look better.

8 minutes ago, melmerby said:

Embeds alright for me.

All I see on your post is this, no clickable link to take you to the video.

My good friend Trackside ECML of this parish found this interesting video and ask me to post it here.

The majority of the video is about the need for the Werrington Dive Under and the journey through it on the LNER Azuma.  There are some excellent cab views, especially from the rear cab on the return journey.  I can only post it as a Youtube link as it is not possible to embed the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivxJurn0x7M

2 hours ago, melmerby said:

Should be plenty of butterflies then.

The only thing positive is the butterflies and colour, shame it is not just a ground covering plant instead of the out of control species it has been allowed to become around the railway.

2 hours ago, Mike Storey said:

It is odd, according to the video posted by Crun, just how few freights are using the dive-under. Maybe he missed many of them, but he certainly recorded more (for the Joint) using the surface route. Some may have been going south of Peterborough, but container trains?? (unless going West via the NLL  maybe).

There are a few container trains that go south on the ECML to the Thames ports, plus the bin trains, the Heck to Bow.

In two hours this afternoon on the Joint at Lincoln Road four freights used the dive under (2 north, 2 south) and three on the surface route (1 north, 2 south)

2 hours ago, melmerby said:

Trains are still varying from the scheduled route.(RTT)

e.g. 4E25 (Bow, London to Heck, Doncaster) is scheduled on the down fast and through Werrington Jn.

It's actually gone via the diveunder.

4E21 (Felixstowe to Doncaster) did likewise.

 

Real Time Trains seems to have nothing scheduled via the diveunder during daylight, including those previously using it, so I suspect something amiss in their listings.

RTT seems a bit of a mess recently.

You need to search on Marholm Junction https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/detailed/gb-nr:MRHLMJN/2022-01-14/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt

and Werrington Junction https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/detailed/gb-nr:WRNGTNJ/2022-01-14/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt

to get some idea of which route a service will take.  Even then, because freight does not always run to time, it seems that Peterborough Power Box use their discretion to fit those trains within the spare paths available at any particular time between passenger services.

Railcam is much better as you can physically watch the movements along the ECML, Stamford Lines, Joint Line and in the station area in real time and see which route the next freight will be taking.  This gives you about five minutes warning for a freight going north at Cock Lane or nearer ten minutes at Lincoln Road.  The only drawback is spending too much time looking at the phone screen and plotting where to stand for the next photo or video that you miss something interesting flying by.

2 hours ago, Trackside ECML said:

Its a nice clear View now

Until the buddleia starts to take over.

Looking at you looking at me.

A quick visit to Hurn Road this afternoon.

The new access road, beyond the fence, to the dive under has been getting plenty of use judging by the dirty state near the entrance off Hurn Road.  There is still some machinery working to the extreme right of the photo but no obvious signs of what was going on.  Quite a bit of standing water on the field as well.

The concrete entrance to the old site access at Hurn Road is being broken up and taken away.  It is a shame that it is being removed as it would have made a nice parking area for those wishing to visit the north end of Hurn Road.  The arguement is that the land has to be re-instated but his little part was actually the driveway to the bungalow that stood there before demolition, so in theory it should be hardstanding.

The new Lincoln Road bridge gets its ID sign.

Oldish video footage of 91's around Peterborough by Trackside ECML.

1 hour ago, corneliuslundie said:

Presumably though any bridges built/rebuilt more than a few years ago will be to the old clearances and no longer allowed to have wiring even though the laws of electricity have not changed.

Jonathan.

The Joint Line, Werrington to Doncaster was upgraded 2012-2014 and overbridges rebuilt to higher clearences for future OHLE.

Some reading here https://paulbigland.blog/tag/gnge/

Some heavier reading of Lincolnshire railways here https://lincolnshire.moderngov.co.uk/documents/s14719/Appendix A GLLEP Rail Study - January 2016.pdf

37 minutes ago, Crun said:

From Legolash on RailUKforums (railforums.co.uk):

 

I managed to receive a signalling diagram for the the diveunder which allowed me to map the gradient data.

I had to manually draw the tracks but I will receive an NR version early next year to draw more accurate locations.

railmap.azurewebsites.net/Public/GradientsMap
 

Perhaps Legolash might like this piece of information posted by Shwam3

From Marholm junction

1:337 falling for 345m

1:271 falling for 165m

1:112 falling for 781m

1:155 rising for 899m

1:124 rising for 330m

Level for 190m

1:370 falling for 135m

To Glinton junction

48 minutes ago, Richard E said:

 

I think it is ditch clearance by the landowner ...

It is the person who owns the property there who has had contractors thining out the bushes and trees along the frontage to Hurn Road.  He has been doing it on and off for a few weeks now.  The ditch that runs along Hurn Road at the front of the property discharges into a ditch that runs parallel to the railway.  This junction was cleaned out by Network Rail a few weeks ago when they put in a new pipe that crosses their old entrance near the footbridge at Hurn Road which goes to the relay room at Werrington Junction.

9 minutes ago, 313201 said:

Can I ask please if the diveunder is going to be wired or if there are plans to install OHLE through it

The dive under has been designed to accept OHLE.  There are no plans to electrify the Joint Line in the near future.

47 minutes ago, Crun said:

An article that looks at the possible future of Lincolnshire railways:

 

https://thelincolnite.co.uk/?p=723221

I very much doubt that there would be enough potential passenger traffic.  Louth going north maybe and Boston going south through Spalding.  Mablethorpe is mainly made up of retired people who are not commuters.

If you can find a copy of The Railway History of Lincoln by J.G. Ruddock & R.E. Pearson ISBN 0 904327 04 3 first published in 1974 it gives a very good insight of how and why the railways first came about in Lincolnshire.  A very good read.

44 minutes ago, melmerby said:

What we need is another line coming off the up slow immediately south of the station, dropping down at the same gradient as the March line does, crossing the river at the same height on a new single track bridge, curving across the flat land to join the March line by the A15 bridge. That way freights could get to and from the yard without conflicts.

Pity the substation is in the way!

Oh yes, I see, another project to for us to report on.

2 hours ago, Crun said:

Tuesday 14th December

 

Views from Cock Lane bridge

 

 A better day as regards the weather but nothing was using the dive-under. I talked to Andrew Winch and Ken Hill and they hadn't seen it being used while they had been there.

 

Does anyone know why the dive-under wasn't being used?

 

 

I have seen three use it today, all on the down line.

Apparently some drivers have raised concerns regarding the position of signal P490 on the up line coming out of the dive under at Cock Lane.  Their concern is being stopped there and having to restart on the incline with a heavy train.

2 hours ago, Crun said:

 

A carefully shaped mound of earth is still there on the flattened field:

It is going to stay there for awhile.  Lloyds Bank are looking to develop that field and have requested not to have the topsoil replaced.