Anthony Ashley

Richard, Scott and Ben, I appreciate your comments. The colouring task was very easy and makes quite a difference so thanks for the advice. I now have to fill in the scenic detail behind the rail viaduct. Photo of the area is below. Regards, Anthony Ashley

Dear Scotty and Lez, Thanks for the encouragement and comments to improve the modelling further. My wife has a large set of artists coloured pencils, so I have been working at the underside of the arches and completed them. The back has also been completed. More photos below. Regards, Anthony Ashley

Dear All, The rail viaduct is very close to completion, having spent nearly a month on it I think. The photos of the front of the viaduct and in situ are below. First off the viaduct on a table. Next on the layout. I am happy with the result and ready to move onto other scenery. Just have to put the covers on the viaduct walls. All comments are welcome. Regards, Anthony Ashley

John, Thanks for the encouragement. I have been working on the back side of the rail viaduct and the back is now complete apart from the top covering the viaduct wall. I have poured the resin for 9 of the 13 sections for the front of the piers and curved them around dowling to create the round front sections required. Unfortunately I require 2 sections to match the length of the pier. I need to mould 2 more sheets of the correct stone to complete this moulding., but with 9 done I can progress on the front. Photos are below. First 2 photos are of the method used to create the round pier fronts sections. I have laid 2 pieces of the 1/2 round dowling to mould the pieces into a circular shape. I will stick them onto the 1/2 round and then sand them back using a dremel. I need just over the 1/2 round so they are a little oversize on the round. First picture is the front unpainted, Second is the back. I now have photos of the rail viaduct from the back view. I am very happy with the result. Just need to finish off the front. I am really looking forward to placing the completed viaduct on the layout to see the complete effect. Regards, Anthony Ashley

Dear All, Steady progress on the Rail Viaduct. Still far from complete but photos are below. The first photos are of the painted lower section of the piers. I have then completed painting the lower brickwork on the viaduct body. The brick work above will be paper. I have also added brick paper to two sections under the piers. I have also added one paper arch in brick. The joins between the resin sections will have rounded piers in front of them to cover the joins. Brick work under the arch and the arch itself, both of which are paper. I have 11 more arch ways to fill in under the arches and 25 paper arches to add. Once these are complete I shall work on the upper brick section on the outside of the viaduct and then the 2 interior brick paper walls. Of course this viaduct will be placed under the road viaduct on the layout. The 2 combined should be spectacular with the mountain back drop. Regards, Anthony Ashley

Dear All, With most of the Penmaenmawr track work complete, apart from a triple point which is shorting and I suppose will need to be replaced I have finished off in this area. I worked on the rail viaduct yesterday and just finalisiling the coverage of one side took all day. I have another 8 resin sections ready but need another 5 so another session of resin pouring is required. While doing the resin pours the excess for each pour has been used to create wagon loads. I have attached photos of the outcomes. The rail viaduct being covered by resin brickwork. I have started to carve out the lowest arch using a sharp modelling knife. All 13 arches covered on the front side. 13 more to go. With the piers I have enough of the coarse stone to cover 3 more piers. I am 1 pier short so more resin pour for this surface as well. The first of the wagon loads. Pipes Barrells Sacks Covered load Crates Bales I think! Closed sacks I need to do at least 1 more session of resin pours for the brick and coarse stone. Once I have finished the resin sections I then will print off the red brick and cover those sections of the viaduct. Regards, Anthony Ashley

Dear All, A long and frustrating week with installing servos and electrofying the frogs. I have now completed all of the points in Penmaenmawr apart from the last 4 at the Bangor end of the layout for those points creating fictional overtaking loops. I have improved on the original design!! Not really any good photographic opportunities as all of the recent servos and switches are sitting under the layout. I have started with more scree around the left side of the mountain and need to paint further round my base brown colour. The other job is to go under the layout and paint the underside of the mountain with a white primer. This is the messiest job done so far as a lot of the paint catches on the chicken wire and flick off onto me. I also have the resin for the stone and brickwork moulds that need to be poured. I shall get on and see if there is something worth while to photograph soon. Regards, Anthony Ashley

Dear All, A fairly good day today with 6 points set up with servos and operational under electronic control. Still need to electrify these frogs though. Photos are below showing my technique for points. The servos are obviously blue and the switches hanging off them in grey. The blue line to the left of the servos and to the right of the track is the hill edge. All of these electronics components will be hidden under a hill which I will be removable. The point in the right foreground and the right exit of the diamond crossing is the hidden loop with completes the hidden loop around the layout. For instance trains running from Conwy to Penmaenmawr could complete the hidden loop adding perhaps 3 minutes to the trip. They would then remain hidden completing a hidden loop to reappear at the top of Penmaenmawr 3 minutes later. Not sure if I will bother with this but it is an option in terms of correct timings for the trip. Come to think of it with minor track amendment I could do the same thing between Penmaenmawr and Bangor as the hidden track and the scenic line is very close in the area of the Penmaenmawr/Bangor dividing tunnel. This photo shows my frog electrification technique for the diamond crossing frogs. The servo on hte right has an arm which activates the switch next to it. The switch is either open or closed. As the servo arm moves the switch closes. That one switch is connected to both frogs for the points just in front of the coach and diamond crossing. Both those points will either be joining the scenic or hidden track. Given they are joined the far diamond crossing frog will also be the same polarity as the point frogs. The second switch is activated by the arm of the first switch and is of an opposite polarity to the first switch. The second switch will provide the polarity to the diamond crossing frog nearest the 2 points discussed. More points to add servos and then frogs to be electrified for those not yet done. Then I am keen to pour resin moulds for the Pen-y-clip rail viaduct, in order to complete the brick and stonework on it. Regards, Anthony Ashley

RJL , Thanks for the encouragement. It is funny how sometimes things are going really well and the other times disaster seems to loom at every corner. While progress has not been spectacular it has been steady over the last week. I have installed about 10 servos and electrified frogs in the hidden areas above the base board in the top of the Penmaenmawr area using my old techniques. I have then done about 4 below these which have to be hidden under the board. Instead of using a push/pull method with rigid wire I used the sweep method with more flexible piano wire for under board mounting. It has worked really well and is a lot simpler and more forgiving. I hope to install another 10 tomorrow using this easier technique. The only issue is how I will mount the switches under the board as there is a 20mm gap between the servo arm and the underside of the base boards using this new technique. I think I have enough regiulated power adapters to power all of the servos. I shall post some more photos tomorrow. Regards, Anthony Ashley

John, It was Stephen Sherwood. He has provided much assistance with my ignorance of all things power and electronics. Regards, Anthony Ashley

Dear All, I have called on one of the British Railway Modellers of Australia Gurus on electronics in Brisbane for support. He came over for a morning and we fully tested the current being drawn on my system. My test used the power from an ESU booster set at 14.6 volts, 4 Amp. Although it may not be of interest to most I shall provide the results below: SPSD with no servos- .3 of a micro amp. Not really significant enough to make any sort of difference in term so power consumption- 1 anologue Tower pro sg 90 micro servo wired to the SPSD with no load - 70 mA 1 anologue Tower pro sg 90 micro servo wired to the SPSD with load - 100mA 4 anologue Tower pro sg 90 micro servo wired to the SPSD with no load - 150 mA with 4 anologue anologue Tower pro sg 90 micro servo wired to the SPSD with one under load 180 mA In summary If each of the 4 servos were under load with 1 producing 30 mA total for 4 is 120mA plus the 150mA for a total of 270mA per SPSD if under load. This is way less than the 2 Amp at 5V from the tech manual for 4 active servos. As a measure of safety I would go for 300mA per SPSD. Start up did not cause any significant fluctuation in the current. Thankyou for your contributions. I think I am now OK. I managed to install point servos for 3 points and electrify them and the attached double crossing today! happy with the outcome. My rate of progress will improve with more practice. Regards, Anthony Ashley

Simon and John, I have gone to the BRMA forum for further clarification. I can not believe how complex this is, but it is certainly difficult. I am waiting for a reply now and will see where we end up. I have been told that all sealed AC/DC power adaptors/power supply units are regulated but am going back to the manufacturer to confirm. I now understand the difference between regulated and unregulated PSUs. I assumed they were all regulated and am surprised that they are not. Simon just to clarify a point in your last post. The power for the track and locos is all provided by the ESU train controller and 7 ESU power boosters. They are all purpose built for model train operation so I am happy with this aspect of my power system. I may be able to run the points off the track power but given it involves 240 servos I would rather have an external power source. We shall see where we end up. Thanks for your help. John I sent an email to the shop owner for the puzzle regarding Australian postage but have no reply so will chase it up. Regards, Anthony Ashley

Tony, Thanks again for replying. What has happened is that I accessed the address for 1101, programmed that relevant server and then tried to address 1102. I only had server 1101 connected when I did the address for that servo. I never connected the second servo at any stage as I was doing them one at a time, and could not understand how to address past the first. What I should have done is connect all 4 servos of the block for the first address program and it would have addressed all four as you have indicated. The sequence for programming the servos than allows each servo to be individually programmed, but I did not attempt to program servos 1102, 1103 and 1104, as I thought I had not sorted the address problem. The only issue I now have is if the 4 electronic addresses are all programmed at the same time, the train controller would be providing that information to the Switch Pilot Servo decoder. I wonder if each of the 4 servos must be connected to the Switch pilot servo when doing the first step of doing the addresses. I suppose if the address only needs to be programmed into the Switch Pilot Servo to access the relevant pin the servos would not need to be added until you are programming the actual servos for degree of sweep and speed. In summary I am uncertain if the servos need to be connected for the addressing stage of the process as well as the servo programming. I can test this out tomorrow. Your explanations have been of great assistance and I clearly have a much better understanding of the process. I was certainly getting very frustrated as I spent hours trying to work out how to address the second servo, when I had already done so. I do need to ensure that when programming each switch pilot servo I have the electronic block of 4 servos attached rather than a sequence of 4 boxes in the accessories tab, Usually they are the same but I have varied the position of a few in the tabs. I hope this explains the problem I was having. Regards, Anthony Ashley

Tony, Thanks for the reply. I would still like to clarify what i am doing. This is my process. I have inputted the switches into the ECoS train controller. so they in a listed within the train controller. They appear on the tables under the main tabs and then sub tabs. There are 16 boxes on each sub tab or page. My numbering system for points is to use the main tab number ie all have been 1 so far. Then the sub tab then the position on the page ie my fist address number was 1101 (main tab 1, sub tab 1 and position 01 out of 16 on the page. Once I get to 1166 I then go to 1201 thru to 16 and then 1301 to 1316 etc, etc . This numbering system will allow me to find them on the accessories page under the tab struture. This numbering system will result in the following electronic addresses related to CVs- 1101= 276-1, 1102=276-2, 1103=276-3, 1104=276-4, 1105=277-1. Once I got through the 1st sub tab and went to sub tab 2 the electronic addresses are in sequence 1201 = 301-1, 1202=301-2 etc. If I understand you correctly if you allocate a point from the accessory screen through the use of the Switch Pilot servo programming button it will automatically assign the other 3 servos and therefore corresponding points that are within the group of 4 electronic addresses. For example looking at the points listed above if I allocate my point 1103, it will recognise the electronic address of 276-3 and the allocated point listed in the ECoS point and automatically allocate the points that have been recorded against 276-1, 276-2 and 276-4. The order of putting the points into the ECoS via the accessory screen and the position on that screen has nothing to do with this recognition process as it is entirely dependent on the ëlectronic address. Given my numbering system nearly all will be in sequence. Can you please confirm if this summary is correct. You could copy this paragraph and comment in red if possible. Thanks for your help again. The manual really assumes a lot of knowledge. Thanks again for your help. I have recently done some interesting scenery on my layout. It is a lot easier than the electronics!!! You may be interested in my train layout listed at : https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/71151-north-welsh-coast-railway-welsh-dragon-rail/page/42/ Regards, Anthony Ashley

Dear Gentlemen, I have not made myself clear but please read carefully the question. I have a SWITCH PILOT SERVO and I want to assign 4 points, one to each servo using programming button on the Switch Pilot Servo. When you get the first programming blink off the programming button it assigns the allocated point to pin number one. The button then lights up for 2 seconds or so and then goes off. This is in contrast to programming the actual servos using the + and - buttons because you move through the pins by repeatedly hitting the programming button. Tony you said "The addresses are assigned in blocks of 4, if the first pin is set to address 1 then the addresses 2 to 4 are then assigned automatically."I am aware that the 4 addresses for accessories are 1-1, 1-2, 1-3 and 1-4 and the programming is done in blocks of 4. I am not using CVs to allocate addresses of the accessories but the buttons on the Switch Pilot Servo. You said addresses 2-4 are assigned automatically. Does this mean that if I press the programming button to get a steady blink (address program mode if you like) to allocate addresses I can allocate pins 1-4 (or the 4 sequential addresses) one after the other by touching the train controller in order to identify each point in sequence. Alternatively does touching the first point in the block of 4 on the train controller automatically activate the 3 points which I have already inserted into the other 3 addresses which are part of the block of 4 and there is no need to further identify these again as a part of the address allocation. The manual does not seem to cover this in any detail. I think you are probably saying the latter but please confirm. If I have not understood you correctly alternatively: So in doing the point assignment of the pins the first time you hit the programming button with the normal blink it programs pin one. If I hit the programming button again getting the same point allocation blink, as opposed to the servo programming ie "a second set of rapid flashes" (used to program servos for degree of movement and speed) does it automatically move onto program the second pin in terms of point allocation. In that case if you made a mistake and wanted to reprogram the first pin you would have to cycle through that first programming blink 4 times. This does not seem to make any sense so we are probably back to one of the 2 optoins the option above. None of this is in the manual so I am a little confused. I am aware how to program the decoders with the rapid lighting blink as I have fully programmed the first servo. Getting to servo and pins 2, 3 and 4 to allocate the points in the first place is my issue. I am getting a little frustrated as I have spent the day trying to get the decoder to work!!!!!!!!!! Sorry if this appears A little dim. Regards , Anthony Ashley

This is a really stupid question but I have looked in the ESU Switch Pilot Servo manual and on line for about 4 hours and can not find an answer. I am trying to assign the point to the relevant point for each decoder pin. The manual says to hit the programming button, wait for the initial blink and then activate the relevant switch on your ESU train controller. I have done that for pin one but the decoder then seem to go inactive unless you hit the same button, but surely you are reactivating the first pin again. I have also modified the 1st servo position and speed so am aware of the second blinking sequence on the LED. Adjusting the individual servos is easy as they are in sequence and you have to cycle through each to finish the process for variation of the servos. I can see no such sequence for programming the addresses to the pins, using the buttons on the Switch Pilot Servo. How do you assign the 2, 3 and 4th pin on the decoder to a point???? I am obviously missing something really obvious but can not see it. Can anyone help please!!! Regards, Anthony Ashley

John and Andy, I have emailed the shop to see if they will direct post. I included my train site link for RM Web to see if that helped as it will show I am serious in terms of modelling. If I do not get a positive response I am happy to see if Andy can help. My wife has some relative in southern England which may also be an option. She has gone to bed so will ask her in the morning. I looks like I might be able to get a copy which would look great on the wall of the shed. I managed to install the decoder and hook it up to the switch tonight. It is about 5 years since I have done one so it was really slow working out the best options. As I have so many lore to go I am sure I shall get quicker!! Thanks to John and Andy for their active participation. I shall get back to you with the shop response and that of my wife. Simon, Thanks for the very fulsome advice. If the standing use for the servos is only 10-15 mA than I have nothing to worry about if I over supply with power packs. I am still a little further confused as I have very little understanding of the electrical side of the hobby. I presume the way I have worked out the final mains power supply is correct if the inputs are correct or conservative. My plan was to use 7 ESU boosters of 4 Amps with the 4 Amp ECoS Train controller for loco power only. Sticking with ESU as the train controller is a safe bet if incorporating their power supplies. I was planning on powering the switches using 6 computer power packs, one for Cony and Penjmaenmawr together, one for Bangor and then two for each storage yard of which there are 2. yards, so 6 power packs in total. I was told the power packs are very stable given there used for computers. The power packs output 3.36 Amps at 16 volts. You mentioned the need for regulation if the voltage is above 6 Volts. Can you please explain what that means. Sorry my ignorance is showing. Similarly how do I common all of the ground sides and what does that mean? Thanks for the advice. Regards, Anthony Ashley

Dear All, I have not been doing any scenery on the layout apart from adding a little coffee grounds to the mountain and some more scree. but been mainly focusing on the electronic aspects of it. Firstly I have redrawn the track plan for the Holyhead storage yard as shown below: This diagram incorporates all of the track numbering , which are the small blue numbers arrayed across the plan. The black numbers are the train rakes assigned to each track. I have worked out the approx length of each rake to economise on track where possible. The larger black boxes are the ESU switch Pilot servo decoders, numbering 20 in total. The smaller black boxes are the servos allocated to each point. I needed to finish this diagram to determine power limitations for the layout , which I shall discuss further below. My knowledge of electronics is nonexistant and am after some more advice from the very knowedgable readers and contributors. I have also reworked all of the points for Conwy I added into the ECoS train controller, renumbering and sorting them in a better fashion. I have determined all of the points required for the entire layout. Approx numbers are as follows: Holyhead storage yard 80 points or 20 ESU Switch Pilot Servos (SPS)(a few less as using triples but require 80 servos which is relevant for power considerations) Chester storage yard 80 points (a few less as using triples but require 80 servos which is relevant for power considerations) Scenic layout about 80 points or 20 SPS. I am now going to give the power requirements for the layout and need advice as to whether I have got this right. I am in Australia and therefore am using 240V mains power. My power supply to the shed has a light circuit and power circuit of 20 amps for the power switches. Total servos in layout is about 240. I will use separate power supplies for the computer power packs of which I have about 100 spare. My research indicates that with no load each servo will draw 100mA at about 5V. If the servo is under load it is about 500mA . The computer power packs are generally about 3.36 Amps at 16V. If I assume I have 6 active servos at any one time for each computer power pack and make up the rest with inactive servos the maths is as follows: 6 Active servos - 6X500mA X 5V divided by 16V (the voltage of the power sources) = .9375amps per power supply Amps left per power supply is 3.36- .9375 =2.423 Each inactive servo draws - .1A X 5V divided by 16 V= .03125A/power source with 2.43 Amps left I could have 77 more servos powered by the power supply. With 10 power supplies ( I could probably get away with 4) I am only using 24 servos per supply and am easily within required power. The power supplies at max are 3.36 Amps at 5 volts. Power usage of 10 of these at max is therefore: 10 X 3.36A X 16V divided by 240V (main power supply) = 2.24 Amps main power supply draw In addition to the power for servos I also have the train controller and 7 boosters for the track. The train controller and boosters have the same power output as follows: 8 X 4A X 16V divided by 240V (main power supply) = 2.14 Amps on the main power supply Total power usage from the mains power supply is therefore 2.24+2.4 =4.48 Amps ????????? Have I worked this out correctly as my experience with electrical calculations is non existent. Any advice would be really appreciated. I shall also be adding more power components but those above are the most significant. There is no doubt that this hobby provides some excellent mental as well as physical challenges, with so many new areas of expertise needed to be addressed. I hope it will keep me young at heart!! Your assistance and advice would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Anthony Ashley

Lez, I have completed a few more layers of paper mache on the new section of the mountain and need to do a few more. Now that I have finally done some of the resin pours I can focus on the Pen-y-clip rail viaduct. Once this viaduct is completed I can scenic the rest of the area around the rail viaduct and complete the mountain up to the sea. I will also be able to complete the track work linking Penmaenmawr to Bangor, the last area of scenic loop to be finalised apart from the Bangor platform and goods areas. Once I have a new lap top I can progress with the numerous points frogs that need to be motorised and electrified. There are also 2 areas of the mountain to have scree added. In addition Bangor wiring can now be commenced. I also have about 30 buildings which need to have scale scenes paper, windows and doors added. As I get sick of doing one type of job I shall move onto another aspect of the layout. This should keep me going for some time. Cameron, Your information is really useful. I have been to the listed sites and will see if I can get a hold of the puzzle. Given the year of the layout is 1960 I shall be including the large foot bridge eventually. I have found the internet to be an invaluable source of material in my research. Thanks for your help. DPGibbons, The art work will add a lot of atmosphere as you suggested. I have some of the posters electronically but the list is much larger than mine to date. Thanks for your contribution. Regards, Anthony Ashley

Richard and 37038, Thanks for the comments they really help to motivate me to continue the process. I really enjoyed Sarah coming out to the shed and helping on the long Easter week end, as it is normally just me and the company was fantastic. We also achieved quite a bit as evidence by the above photos. Howard, I appreciate you coming back to me. I have plenty of tasks to do so a delay in your visit to the Penmaenmawr Historical society will not impact on the layout progress. If you are able to visit after the COVID restrictions have been released that would be fantastic. I do not want anyone taking any unnecessary risks. I am self isolating as much as possible except for emergency trips to Bunnings (big local Hardware chain) for modelling supplies. My adult children have been delegated grocery shopping for the duration of the restrictions. We seem to be doing well in Australia in term s of infection rate and deaths, and I wonder if it is related to the more dispersed cities we enjoy with generally less density in our suburbs. I know the news is not so positive from the UK. I have attempted to contact by email officials from the Penmaenmawr Historical Society but have had no replies. One of my last remaining large expenses for the layout now that I have decided to create storage yards with connections at both ends, is the need for another 33 triple 3 way points. Ouch!!! That will be an expensive proposition, particularly as they all need to be computerised and therefore have a decoder added. Cameron, The puzzle is fantastic. I went on line to see if I could buy a copy but no success to date. I thought a copy in the shed would add more atmosphere. Thankyou for your contribution in pointing it out to me as it is a real curiosity and well worth an investment if I can find it. In fact the family has just completed our first family puzzle in about 10 years, as a result of our movement restrictions. The Conwy puzzle would be far superior in every way!! One of the main reasons for choosing the Hoyhead Chester line was the fantastic scenery as you have so correctly pointed out. Disaster with my laptop as it is dead as a Dodo. New one will have to be purchased as I need one in the shed to assist with track wiring and scenery. We have cancelled out trip to the UK this year given the upheaval around the world. We are lucky that our trip to the US and Canada was last year. We will be looking to next year for the UK now. Jamie, I hope you are OK in these uncertain times. While I have no further photos to show I have achieved some good outcomes in the last 24 hours. I now have 3 of 8 power zones wired up to final stage from the controller-power booster-switches-plastic terminal strips-track. I have 16 volts in all 3 areas and therefore should be good to run trains once I have the points sorted in terms of frog power. The paper mache being undertaken by Sarah on the bottom right corner of the layout has been completed and painted brown. I offered for her to paint the underside in white without telling her it is an extremely messy job as the paint is caught by the chicken wire and tends to drip all over you while you are painting. I relented and said I would do it myself!! I have completed about 4 layers of paper mache on the other side of the mountain around the corner of the layout. Only about 5 layers more to go. I might look at commencing the wiring for the Bangor platform area by way of variation. Alternatively I could start on the 3D printed buildings that need to be covered in scale scenes paper. At least I have plenty of variation in the list of tasks for completion. Stay safe and happy modelling. Regards, Anthony Ashley

Dear All , Last in a series of 3 posts. Close ups of our efforts to create new flowers. More experimentation with different colour and lengths to follow. I need to continue the paper mache on the Penmaenmawr side of the layout. I might also do a little more wiring to complete the existing areas to the train controller incorporating all switches and power zones. Tonight I might also have a crack at the resin pours for the Railway viaduct. Regards, Anthony Ashley

Dear All, Follow up from the post above. Around the side of the mountain on the Penmaemawr side of the layout I have started paper mache on this area of the mountain. Wild flowers from North Wales. I subsequently added more grass tufts to lift the large grass patches. Further post to follow to complete the photo series. Regards, Anthony Ashley

Dear All, I have added some small touches to the mountain. Photos below. Additional vegetation areas, flowers ans tufts of grass have been added around the mountain. More experimentation with length and colour to add more variation will be done. Sarah has been busy with the paper mache!! Next post for flowers and more detailing!! Regards, Anthony Ashley

Dear All, See the post above for more photos as both posts were added at the same time. A few more photos. Most of the roads still require stone walls and plaster to create the tarmac. I have added more scree to the area shown above the rock face in the photos above. I have also added more paper mache further around the corner in a really hard area to reach. One layer down and about 9 more to go. There is still more area further around the corner to scree as the next activity. I get a sense of achievement in doing the scree as you cover a really large area fairly quickly. Regards, Anthony Ashley

Dear Edd, Lez and Simon, I am not sure I agree with you on your choice of hair spray. For me the real deal is Taft "Schwartz kopf". Not sure if that is the correct spelling but it is good German. I bought the can 5 years ago for about $2 great value for money!!! I have asked all of the ladies in my house if they have heard of Ellenette but no one has. It must be a particularly British thing! I have filled in more vegetation on the mountain. It is a little bit like filling in a canvas as you paint in the detail. Again I think it looks good and I am happy with the outcome. I have experimented with my grass applicator and am really happy with the light yellow tufts next to the wall in some of the photos below. Sarah and I are experimenting with producing flowers. We have produced goods looking tufts and need to let them dry and add the flowers tomorrow. Photos are below: I shall add a few more photos in another post. Regards, Anthony Ashley