stivesnick

The car barn is nearly complete and just needs a bit of detailing.  The building appears much taller than surrounding buildings, so I may need to rethink the placing of the other buildings. The photos show ample clearance between the top of the pantograph and the top of the door, so I could have made it a bit lower, but too late now. I have added some plastic strips between the tracks to create an impression of a solid floor, although it is not very visable from the outside. 

I have also started to fill in the gaps between the tracks with bits of 2mm card as within the depot area, the general ground level would be close to the level of the tracks.

Progress photos enclosed.

Regards 

Nick 

A few more:

Largs, Milngavie, Oban, Buxton and Sheerness on Sea. 

If you are modelling the post Beeching era, there are many former through routes that were cut back so a through station became a terminus. 

Nick  

I enjoyed going to the show yesterday. As others have mentioned, the dispays of aircraft on their own did do much for me, as there was often no explaination to say if they were kits or scratch bit. The dioramas were much better and the radio controlled trucks looked like a lot of fun. 

For OO and O gauge railway modellers there were a lot of non-railway kits and 3D prints that they could use. Not so much in N Gauge although I did buy a 3D printed WW II aircrew hut for the layout to be use as a general shed type building. I didn't get the associated Spitfire and crew. So for next year, can we have some N Gauge dinosaurs and darleks please!

Nick 

Thanks Travis 

I did find this video on youtube showing a Class 66 with a single wagon from Sleaford to Doncaster so similar moves might still be possible. A great video for anyone worried about the length of modern freight trains!

Nick 

Hi 

When I moved to Sleaford at the end of last year, there were two open wagons in the sidings adjacent to the station. I assumed they were crippled wagons removed from a passing aggregates train, although they could be there to move waste materials from the work being done in the area. 

Over the last few days one of the wagons has been moved to the other siding. This raises two questions, why did it move and how was it moved? 

Has it been repaired and it was moved to confirm it was fit to operate again? Has Network Rail adopted model railway practice and a big hand has decended from the sky to move it? There have been track machines based in the sidings from time to time, so was this used to move the wagon.

Any thoughts on this welcome.

Photos show original and current locations.

Regards 

Nick 

Some more progress with the car barn. The walls have been put together, the side building and the roof trusses have been added.

Progress photo enclosed.

Regards 

Nick

11 hours ago, 298 said:

 

You could model a genuine Niles Crane:

 

https://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/hhh.wa0200.photos.169724p/?co=hh

 

AFAIK the Carbarn in Yakima was never wired, there is a knife switch on the wall and a long piece of cable called a "Stinger" that hooks onto the trolley pole to power cars.

Thanks for this. Photos inside car barns are rare so this is useful. I did think about having an internal crane, but worried how it would work with the overhead wires. I must obvisouly look again at photos to see what actually happened.

Nick 

Work has started on the car barn for the interurban line. Using Slaters sheet with doors, windows and roof trusses from York Modelmaking.  The main doors will be scratchbuilt to allow for the non-existent overhead line to pass through. Progress so far is to crate the main walls and the base for the building to sit on around the tracks. There will be side building that contains the workshop and staff mess facilities.

The base allows for a walkway around the building. 

Progress photos so far. 

Nick 

Neil

Forgot to mention - Freight Only Vol 2 by Micheal Rhodes and Paul Shannon has has  a lot of London area freight timetable information for Jan 1988.

Regards 

Nick  

Hi Neil 

I have two London area timetables for Oct 87 to May 88:

Section PD covers the western main line so includes Action and Southall Yards

Section LD covers East Anglia and includes Stratford and Ripple Lane 

The map with the later timetable suggests that Section YH covers the south end of the East Coast Main line. 

Hope this is useful. If you are after specifc workings I can check the timetables for these.

Regards 

Nick 

Look forward to seeing this at the show later today.

Nick 

Hi 

There is a company called Detail Associates who make various parts to add/replace on locomotives. 

Link to their page on the Walthers web-site: https://www.walthers.com/detail_associates?productListFilters=scale%3AN Scale

Regards 

Nick 

Hi Andy

The fiddle yard drawing looks great. Is the need for a hinged fiddle yard just for storage or is it for possible transportation as well?

With the two parts joined only by the hinges, there could be a bit of sidewards pressure when the traverser is moved. It may be necessary to have some other means for connecting the two parts such as a bolt between the two sections when in the deployed position.

Regards 

Nick 

Hi 

Scenery work around the farm continues. I have painted the backscene (Homebase Twilight Skies sounded about right). I then covered the basic scenery in soaked paper and added some taster pot emulsion when dry. The photos show that the paper did not stick is some places so I will go over with some diluted PVA to try to stick in down. 

The farm buildings have been finished and stuck down, followed by the first application of scatter materials. Over the years I have collected a large range of different scatter materials. For each area, I then create a cocktail of different material mixed up in a sealable bag. If I remember to label each bag then I can go back and touch up any areas later.

Having a fixed layout rather than a exhibition layout, I can no longer tip the board up to see what comes off. Once dry I will brush the area to see what is not stuck down and then carry out local repairs. Extra layers of scatter, fences etc  to be added later.

For the river, I will put a layer of gravel /rocks on the riverbed followed by some clear resin for the water. Not sure how sealed the riverbed needs to be - any thoughts?  Would it be useful to add a layer of filler over the paper?

Progress photos enclosed.

Nick 

Hi 

There has been no mention of possible freight traffic so far. Freight Only Vol 3 by Michael Roades and Paul Shannon says that in the 1980s, Kings Cross freight terminal was still active with a number of regular freight flows. The freightliner depot closed in 1986. There were daily sand trains in HTV hoppers from Fen Drayton ( 2 x class 31 from memory)  they switched to bogie hoppers in the late 1980s and the traffic ended in the early 90s. There was also an oil terminal on the Hertford Branch served from Ripple Lane.

There were also Speedlink services from Willesden and Ripple lane that passed through the area.

Today freight trains tend to use the Hertford Line as the mainline is very busy, based on the track plan, you may need to run the services up the main line (apart from the oil train).

Regards 

Nick

On 31/03/2024 at 15:31, Mol_PMB said:

Suggestions for slightly more economical large trees would be gratefully received. Minimum acceptable height is around 250mm, ideally taller.

CM3 models had some suitable trees on sale at the York show this weekend. Around £30 for a pack of 5 fir trees, 250mm high. They look similar to those already on your layout. Link to web-site here: https://cm3models.co.uk/trees-70-c.asp

Hope this helps

Nick 

7 hours ago, BluenGreyAnorak said:

I’m guessing the lack of comments is either because everybody is so in awe of my modelling prowess that they're speechless or it's really dull

I find that topics on RMweb tend to fall into two categories. The first with loads of reponses, often from friends, the other with few comments. Don't worry about it. The crane modification looks great.

Nick  

I have started to assemble some new kits from Walthers including their farm house and barn/silo kits. This has been combined with some buildings from previous layouts to create a farm scene. I may move the buildings closer together to create a larger field behind the farm house for some horses and a small vegtable garden. 

The silo kit was a bit disappointing as there was no method of loading cattle feed into the silo. You-tube provided a video of a farmer loading up a silo using an tractor driven auger and pipework. Using bits from the scrap box, I made up my own version. I will also need to add a small extension on the end of the barn for a unloading elevator. 

Link to video here: 

I have also put in a raised roadbed and created a ditch that runs adjacent to the road. The next step will be to finish off the basic contours using soaked paper. Also to add some cows and fencing to the shopping list for the York show. 

Progress photos enclosed.

Nick 

Jeremy

I would be tempted to contact York Modelmaking - they do a bespoke laser cutting service. I have used their windows and doors in layouts and find them better than 3D printed items.

Nick 

On 25/03/2024 at 15:10, SouthernBlue80s said:

Would a very occasional class 45 or class 40 ever have made it into the yard or on the odd holiday excursion?

Hi 

"An Illustrated History of the East Suffolk Railway" by John Brodribb (Oxford Publishing Co) has lots of pictures of Lowestoft Station. There are also pictures of various railtours including 55015 at Lowestoft on 3/9/78 and 40004 on 24/7/83.

As Class 40 were used on the Great Eastern Main Line out of Liverpool Street it is possible they could have reached Lowestoft in the 1960s but by 1980 they had long gone from the route. They were used on the Harwich Boat Trains from the north west so could have made it on other routes. Given that most trains would have reversed at Norwich, more local motive power would have been used on the final leg to Lowestoft. I don't recall seeing many Class 45 on passenger trains in the region during the 1980s. They could often been seen at March Depot having worked freight trains.

Regards 

Nick 

The April 24 issue of Continental Modeller features a layout based on the story of Noah's Ark complete with narrow gauge railway to help deliver the animals and their food supplies. Does this count as the ultimate Era 1 layout?

Nick 

Some work on the scenery by the river over the last few days.

I have a supply of thin polystyrene sheet once used as packaging. I also have some 5mm foam sheeting brought from The Works. The foam sheet has been used to fill in the gaps between the baseboard frame. It creates much less mess than the polystyrene.  

The overall effect is that the  ground level rises from 10mm below track level to around 25mm above it. 

The flat area at the front will become a farm and associated fields.

Progress photos enclosed.

Regards 

Nick 

Hi 

I managed to find another (hand drawn) signal box diagram.

Hope this helps

Nick 

36 minutes ago, AndyB said:

Hi Nick.

I'll be facing the same issue on my own layout. I've not (consciously) come across those two-part shelf connectors before. 

Any chance you could point me to a picture of what youve used for this? 

Cheers. Andy

Hi Andy 

The items are called knockdown fittings are available at any DIY/hardware store. They come in packs of 4 or 10 and are around 50p per item.

They come with a screw fixing, although the units are a tight fit, so using the screw is not always required. 

I used thin MDF for the backscene as it is more ridgid that hardboard. You will need to glue a thin piece of wood to the MDF to enable you to screw the male part of the fixing to the backscene (unless you are happy for the screw to poke through the MDF). The female part is screwed to the main baseboard. 

I used these on the removable backscene entrance to the fiddle yard and as a portable exhibition layout had good access for installation. For fixing these to a backscene where access behind the backscene is difficult I think the squence is as follows:

1. With the two parts joined together, fix the male section to the backscene ensuring that the bottom of the female part is flush with the bottom of the backscene.

2. With the backscene laid flat on the baseboard, mark out where the female part needs to go. Fix the female connector to the baseboard and hopefully it will line up.

Photos enclosed - hope this makes sense.

Nick 

Robert

Back to your original question. If you are worried about access to the track at the back of the layout, then make the backscene removable to enable you to clean the track from time to time. I use the plastic two part shelf connectors available from DIY shops. One part is fixed to the baseboard, the other to the backscene it self.

Regards 

Nick