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Hi Schooner,

I’m not 100% sure why but I much prefer the new plan. Keep up the good work! 
 

best,

Will

11 hours ago, sb67 said:

Just had a read through your thread and got to say what a fantastic layout you're building. I love the scenery and the quayside looks superb, I'm looking forward to seeing more pics. 

I'm really impressed with the fact you've built it in a flat too! 

All great stuff. 

Thanks for the kind words, there’s still plenty of detailing work to do, but I don’t think it’s panning out too badly. 
 

I must confess I built the baseboards back at my parents, although there’s no reason I could built them in a flat (the fiddle yard will probably be built here), but yes, that’s come with its own challenges too!

Well, I would deem ‘Project tone done the fencing wire’ as a success...

44 minutes ago, NHY 581 said:

What's the plan for the lighting, LB ? 

Good question @NHY 581. I've made things a little harder for myself on account of designing it so that two sides of the the layout are the viewing area and the other two have backscenes, this means I in effect have a free standing corner without support at the front of the layout.

The current plan (about version 13?) is to use some appropriate aluminium L-angle for the lighting. At the right hand end of the layout this will be L shaped, one leg attaching down the back of the layout, held by bolts tightened into captive nuts in the soft wood at the back of the layout, the other leg will extend out to above the front right hand corner. I'll then run a piece of Aluminium L angle from the front left corner along the front to connect to this. Hopefully this will be light and strong enough to prevent it sagging. These will be bolted together and have two strips of LED strip on them.

This was used to great effect on my first lockdown project as seen below.  

5 minutes ago, woko said:

Haha you are most welcome chap! I have promised Gary above a Stroudley Lantern brake for all his help on getting it right, but I figure I may stick a few 4mm ones up for anyone who wants them at the start of next year! I'm currently having way to much fun building this stuff, but constantly making amendments on them as I figure better ways to print and construct them as I go along. I now have 17 wagons ranging from LBSC to GNR and the odd SE&CR which is mostly for the clubs new 7mm layout we hope to get cracking on next year all being well and pandemic obliging!

Definitely keen for a Stroudley brake or any other LBSC stuff, it looks great. Keep up the good work!

Thanks both for the kind words! 
 

The glue finally dried, allowing me to take some photographs of the woodland at the far end of the layout.

I think I need to find something to take the shine off the fence wire, I’ll try some acrylic paint and if that fails use the airbrush. Otherwise it’s shaping up nicely. 
 

(One of) the next jobs is to sort out the lighting, I promise....

I need to do the other bit of fencing at the rear of the layout too, alongside fitting some ladders and seaweed to the quay and shoreline to get this ready for the resin pour....

Spent a few hours over the weekend pushing the quay on. I wired up the Scale Model Scenery fence posts with 0.2mm wire which then cleared the way for fitting the trees. 

These are a mixture of Woodland Scenics armatures with seafoam attached to the branches and seafoam trees, all covered with various Woodland Scenics coarse and fine turf and Noch leaves. 

Please excuse the paint bottles, which are supporting the trees whilst the PVA gluing them down dries. I couldn't resist taking photos before this had dried.  

On 26/11/2020 at 15:19, wainwright1 said:

 

I have also received my Fishbourne and everything appears o.k. I have tested it briefly on a straight section of track and appears to run satisfactorily. Unfortunately no access to a layout at the moment to test it more thoroughly.

 

Lets hope that there will be a new batch of 02's next year to swell the Isle of Wight ranks.

 

Ray

I quite agree Ray. My Fishbourne also seems OK but is in need of a full running in which I hope to do over the coming weeks. 

41 minutes ago, TeakDB said:

 

Looking good and thanks for this. I think im fairly happy with the adhesion of the weathering powders so far, especially as after trawling through several books there arn't many wagons I see with heavy weathering. Although I have recently found a great photo of ex IWR no2 brake van before scrapping where the paint has weathered so far as for the old IWR marking to start showing through- now that will be an effect to work on in the future.

 

Heres the finished rake of wagons so far. 

 

I say finished but I have also found a photo with the ex midland brake van with the westinghouse through pipes before being rebuilt which I need to add. I also redid the lining around the terrier nameplate with black and white lining rather than pure white.

 

I have thought about your idea to create a table of rolling stock I build and what kits I used to get there, which got me thinking to what rolling stock I would want to convert/kitbash. This has got me to think that actually casting some of these wagons myself may be easier than (for example) converting a mid sized rake of ballast wagons from pre existing white metal kits and allow others to fill the many gaps in more interesting Isle of wight rolling stock. All I can say at the moment is this will not be something that moves quickly but potentially watch this space.

 

My next update will hopefully see the iwr wagon fully bolted and finally a finished stroudley third.

 

 

Looking good as always. I didn’t realise the Ex IWC midland Brake Van was painted in SR livery before being rebuilt, do you know when it was rebuilt? 

The wagons look really good @woko!
 

Keep up the good work. 

Looks like a good project with lots of potential, I shall watch with interest.

Foamboard is an interesting material to work with, you definitely need to clad it in some sort of Ply if you're planning on moving the layout through around, as it's not very knock resistant. Make sure you use PVA and a hot glue gun for the joints, I've gone back in a few places where I just used hot glue during construction to add a bit more strength to the joints.

Also be mindful of if you're going to have an integral backscene or not, on Shalfleet Quay I've only got a backscene on two sides, which means they layout doesn't really act like a 'box' when lifting or moving it, so I had to go back and put a few more supports in some areas underneath to reduce deflection. The stuff is very easy to work with, so there's no need to scrimp on under-baseboard supports and bracing. I'd probably use 10mm stuff if I was to do it again, purely because it's so light, and you might as well use a material that's thicker and stronger to start with, but 5mm was totally fine for Shalfleet Quay. 

I would also consider putting down some sort of base for the track bed, possibly ply or something that wouldn't warp as this would add more strength and give something less shock absorbing for SEEP point motors to mount to, if you're using them. This would also mean that it would be easier to take up and put down track should your plans change halfway through. Having said this, I don't think it's essential to do this at all. 

Chris Nevard's photos on constructing Catcott Burtle are also very useful for baseboard construction. 

3 hours ago, Graham_Muz said:

 

It's a Warley weekend offer and will end Sunday evening .

This was news I didn't need to see, having seen on of the Yugoslavian derivatives working in the Zenica coal mine back in 2014 these have always been a favourite class of mine....

16 hours ago, BWsTrains said:

Seconded!  Superb work on the quayside timbers and backscene.

 

Colin

Thanks Colin!

Finally received my replacement Rail's Terrier. It looks rather splendid. 

As promised, here are some photos of the O2 and the newly arrived replacement Rails Terrier. Both are looking good, I think. 

6 hours ago, Graham_Muz said:

 

Looks like you have that covered and the modifications would work, although the Westinghouse pump on the IOW, being for brakes rather than Pull Push control, was slightly larger but I doubt many would notice. 

 

As for more O2 models being produced of course I can not say one way or the other...

I didn't know about the air pump being a different size. I think there are a few other differences such as the Cab roof vent too but I can't remember off the top of my head what the others our. Still its should look mostly right. 

6 hours ago, Graham_Muz said:

 

With respect to layout lighting, I did a post on my blog that might give food for thought here https://grahammuz.com/2017/04/10/layout-lighting-is-quay-white-is-white-right/ 

Thanks @Graham_Muz for this. I was thinking about LED strip too, although I'm not yet settled on a way of mounting them above the board. Some more thinking is required in this area, I think. 

4 hours ago, TeakDB said:

 

I will be doing similar with the two o2s I currently have once ive finished my stroudley set.

 

Also remember the extended bunkers came in later than the naming of the earlier o2s by a good few years and that might fit more firmly in your time period so thats still an option. I have a few surplus modelmaster nameplates if you are interested.

 

As for efe 02s I think id probably hold off unless there was a LSWR version for the 1923 summer season which I wouldnt be able to resist.

I can't remember which was the last loco to get a name but think it was around 1930 ish? I can't find the appropriate book to hand at present. I was mainly thinking of avoiding names because I thought it was more likely for a model to be made with name plates, but I haven't made a firm decision on this either way. Should EFE do another batch I am sure I'll end up with quite a few, finances permitting...

I'll watch with interested to see how you get on with the conversion @TeakDB 

3 hours ago, Ian Morgan said:

 

Last year I splashed on on this pair, and they have been brilliant (is there a pun in there somewhere?)

 

Pair of LED photofloods and tripods, with 2 spare bulbs.

 

I also used them when making a video covering building some Merg CBus beginners electronic kits (now on Youtube)

 

 

 

Crikey that's a fine piece of kit! I was thinking of something slightly simpler, this being a wooden frame which would attach to the top of the layout and allow me to glue some LED strip to it. Something like that could still be very useful for the workbench/photography though... 

1 hour ago, Graham_Muz said:

Well done on getting the O2 apart (and back together again) I look forward to seeing on the layout soon, even if it is a mainland condition one. 

Thanks @Graham_Muz, it’s certainly an ‘interesting’ model to take apart and put back together, but a good learning experience all the same.
 

I do have half an idea to remove one of the air tanks and move the other, and then re-number it as a pre-1928ish O2 before they received names.
 

Whether I manage, or whether it’s wise do this before a possible EFE announcement on another batch (should there be one) remains to be seen.

Plucked up the courage to pull the non motorised O2 apart and fit the replacement chassis, it was a very involved process see the pictures below. Thankfully got it all back together and it's still working.

When testing this, I got another DC loco out for running and couldn't resist taking this photo.

I really must sort a proper lighting rig out rather than relying on an LED spotlight... 

Looking good! What weathering powders did you use to create such an effect? 

Great work as always, I’m particularly enjoying watching you adapt standard wagon kits into good representations of IoW wagons. Keep up the good work! 

A lovely layout. The quayside area looks really good, I will enjoy reading updates with interest. 

3 hours ago, Graham_Muz said:

Excellent progress and Looking great. I like and use the WWS static grass fibres too.

3 hours ago, Schooner said:

Quite right too, it's looking really very good...I've tied up to less convincing quays in 12":1'!

Thanks both for the kind words of encouragement!

29 minutes ago, Graham_Muz said:

 

There is a screw at the front that is underneath the front coupling, and one under the rear bogie to remove the chassis from the body. 

The body is held to the running plate by two clips (best prised open with a small screw driver from below) at the front and two screws at the rear that are under the bunker coal load. Some of the pipework at the front is held in the running plate by glue so you need to be carefully when removing the front end from the running plate.

Thanks @Graham_Muz! 

Does anyone have any advice on how to get the body off one of these? Looking at the instructions which come with these it's not entirely clear how you can get the body off the running plate. It looks to be held at the rear by two screws and the front by some clips?