Revolution Mike B

2 hours ago, Stu from EGDL said:

Hi Gang, 

Happy to report that my TPE set has safely arrived and, out of the box, is acceptably free running and the Dapol 68 waiting patiently on the shelf happily romps away with it. Not tried pushing much as the loco buffers conspire to derail the adjacent coach on easing out from a curve, so will explore later, a longer shank coupling for that.

Will have to compare the wheels and bogies against the remaining couple of stubborn CS sleeper coaches to gain any further useful insight, although I have managed to get those up to loco plus 8 without too many dramas. Still the occasional uncoupling from the loco due to accumulated drag,  so a bit more work is needed.

 

Later,

Stu from NRSW

Hi Stu

There’s a longer coupling in the box. We recommend this when running with the 68. 👍

Cheers

Mike B

6 hours ago, Southwich said:

 

The new 4mm Class 60 

I’m doing pretty well for someone that doesn’t like 56s and 60s……another one to add to the purchase list! 

For those of you inquiring about decoders, we will be selling pre mapped Lokpilot Nano 5s directly to suit every loco.

We have just listed the Class 59 decoders on our website at £36.95 each and will list the Class 66 decoders nearer the time of release.

Cheers

Mike B

11 hours ago, BritishRail60062 said:

Get one mate. You won't regret it! They are nice models. Although from my observations from the performance when I reviewed mine tonight. I feel that all wheel drive would have been a better option to have gone for. Not moaning, just some constructive feedback. 

Absolutely no need for all axle drive when a model carries as much weight as this one, and it’s strange that people get fixated on it. If anything, it aids traction due to preventing see saw motion. The Deco sample I borrowed pulled 38 coaches on my layout without struggling. It also managed to pull every wagon I had at the Taunton show. 

4 minutes ago, atom3624 said:

The 'high bar' had recently been set by A/S's Class 37, the main 'but' was the lighting seemed weak.

How are the white / red lights on this model, for those who have received from one who is waiting?

 

Al.

My point is that the locomotive has prototypical lighting and not ‘toy train’ lights that would be too bright by even the most modern railway practices. 

Can I just remind folk that Mike H has mentioned several times, when a balance invoice is paid, it automatically generates a dispatch email. This doesn’t mean your models have been shipped, it’s just a glitch in the payment system. 
 

Ben, Mike H and Simon are currently packing the TPE sets as I type, but there are only so many hours in the day….and all three of them have a fair amount of other work to do within the business too. Remember….theres only four of us. 
 

The orders will be worked through in time and we thank you for your patience.

Cheers

Mike B

52 minutes ago, Aire_Valley said:

I would be very interested in 21x National Power livery. Providing they could add the 3 vertical strengthening ribs.

 

Tim

These will only be the ARC version that worked out of the Mendips. 

9 minutes ago, Kaput said:

That might be a first that I've ever seen it said a 21MTC had more outputs and greater flexibility than a Plux22. Interesting.

At least with Plux22 theres only one type.

Because we partner ESU for our sound decoders, the 21 MTC interface is more suited to how we’ve arranged the auxiliary outputs. This has been designed for us by ESU so that we can access all of the functions we’ve asked for. 
 

The Plux interface does indeed mean just one decoder type but ESU weren’t keen to go down this route, despite them making Plux 22 decoders. 

15 minutes ago, Bryn_Bach_Railway said:

The original announcement on the revolution trains website definitely states OO would have 22Plux. Just interesting to hear that one interface is more flexible than the other, however it’s understandable that one is chosen above the other if that’s the case.

 

can see another case of people struggling to find the appropriate decoders to access all the functions with the amount of 21pin decoders available that differ in ability. But if it gives more features on the model then it’s a worthwhile compromise it seems.
 

(https://revolutiontrains.com/revolution-goes-ahead-with-adelante-and-coradia/)

 

*apologies if this along with my last posts in this thread seem a bit augmentative or overly critical, That’s not my intention at all. I’m simply incredibly excited and interested for these models (was even going to attempt making a class 175 myself before time became to sparse) and just want them to be as close to the real thing as possible*

The original announcement was for a Plux 22, but on the website for pre ordering it was changed to DCC socket. The 21 MTC decoder has one extra output which gives us the flexibility needed and is the reason we’ve chosen to go with that interface. 
 

Hope that helps. 

3 minutes ago, Bryn_Bach_Railway said:

21 MTC? Were the OO gauge ones not originally announced with a 22Plux interface?

21 MTC offers greater flexibility over Plux 22. We didn’t announce them with any particular interface, just DCC Socket. 

On 10/01/2024 at 22:08, Sir TophamHatt said:

What decoder / ohms speaker are you planning to use?

Will there be space if people want to upgrade the speakers?

21 MTC interface with two speaker to suit. There is space for larger speakers however you may need to remove part of the interior if you go too large. 

To keep everyone in the loop, emailed Joel to ask for the MOQs on both wagon and liveries. Once we have those then he can work out an RRP per wagon.

Cheers

Mike 

24 minutes ago, hclewis said:

I would be in for at least 8 to start. Price would have to be no more than the O&K, unless serious improvements were made to resolve the coupling issues, fragile detail parts, and excessive rolling resistance.

 

Still a proud owner of 10 O&K JHAs.

Let me be perfectly clear here. The price will be reflective upon the MOQ and what the factory charge Dapol to make them for. Small detail parts will fall off - it’s inevitable. As with any inside bearing bogie, there will be some drag in N Gauge. It’s near on impossible to get needle roller bearings like we would use in OO. 
 

To be fair on the O&K version, once you’ve added 0.25mm shims to the bogies, they run very well. I’ve got quite a few now and there’s no issue. 
 

Cheers

Mike 

Last year, I spoke to Joel (Dapol) and asked if we’d see the PD JHAs in N Gauge. Unfortunately, he doesn’t think it would be viable as the O&K ones didn’t sell as quickly as they’d hoped. With that in mind, I asked him if he would consider making some if I could muster enough people to ‘put their money where their mouths were’ and make it happen. As with most things, my day job has rather got in the way so this is as good a place as any to drum up some interest. 
 

I’ve not got any figures yet but when I get five minutes, I’ll ping an email off to see what the MOQ (Minimum Order Quantity for those that aren’t familiar) is and we can go from there. Obviously, the lower the MOQ, the more chance we have of making it work, but the higher the unit cost will be. 
 

If anyone is seriously interested, please register your interest here (as my friends at Dapol monitor the RMWeb posts) and we’ll get the ball rolling. 
 

Cheers

Mike 

One thing to check is your spam folder. Unfortunately, emails have a habit of finding their way to it! 
 

Cheers

Mike B 

22 hours ago, AndrueC said:

How did these ever make it into production, Dapol? I've just bought seven of them and almost every one suffers from the wheels scraping the underside of the chassis.

 

 

Is this a known issue and/or is there a known solution?

 

Ordinarily I'd send them back to the retailer but I've just bought them from Hattons so I'd rather not go that route as I'm sure they have enough on their plate at the moment.

Make up some 10thou plasticard shims. They run a dream afterwards.

4 hours ago, Bryn_Bach_Railway said:

Looking from further back the door seals don’t look as intrusive. Still a bit too pronounced in my opinion but from afar they certainly blend in a lot more. Be very interesting to see how they look decorated 

One thing to remember with unpainted samples is that every detail looks a lot more pronounced. The reason for this is so that the detail doesn’t get lost underneath the paint.

cheers

Mike B

3 hours ago, Northerngirl said:

Mainly the big orange connector, also the bolts & other bits around the edges. It's probably just a limitation of the scale, but it just looks like a step down from the rest of the model. 

Unfortunately, the ‘big orange connector’ would prevent the kinematic motion of the coupler, which is why we’ve omitted it. You will find it’s very similar to another manufacturer’s front end coupler which provides function over form.
 

Hope that helps.

Mike B 

2 hours ago, Northerngirl said:

I'm very excited to see the progress being made so far, i think im going to be a happy customer, for a 1st ep it's looking brilliant.  

 

The chunky seals & window frams aren't 100% accurate, but I think almost all oo models (just looking at my mk4s) are the same, once painted it will look fantastic 

 

My only concern is the lack of detail around the couplings, but it's hard to tell from the photos.

 

Finally, Any chance the dec sample will be at model live this year, and will the interior be painted something like bachmanns 158?

When you say “lack of detail around the couplings”, in what respect? 
 

Cheers

Mike B

It’s that time of year when most of us down tools, eat and drink way too much, and watch constant repeats of the last twenty years worth of TV. 
 

Whatever you get up to…..Merry Christmas from me to you. 

22 minutes ago, The Pilotman said:

 

Someone did a few days ago…
 

Your comparisons between Revolution and other companies are unfair. I would not expect a company run by a handful of people, mainly doing it in their spare time, to go about things in the same way as a large company with multiple paid staff on their books.

We’re actually all full time now but as you’ve quite rightly said, there’s only four of us, we wear many hats at once, and we can only juggle so many balls at any one time. Posting out thousands of parcels for example, is very time consuming and evidently eats in to other tasks. 
 

Cheers 

Mike B

Just to clarify on the coaches.

The open thirds have two different types of mesh. Diamond and Square, depending on year of build, with both currently running.

Bernard has covered everything else. 
 

Hope that helps.

5 hours ago, jdbsg65 said:

Hi, do you have a code number for the lockpilot version that we will need for the non-sound fitted versions or will this be in the documentation? Thanks

We will have some news about the non sound decoders shortly 

Cheers

Mike B