NBR906

Just to correct the previous post, Guilplates transfers are not available from me, only direct through Guilplates themselves. I only posted information with images to make them more widely known.Brgds Ian NBR 4mm Developments www.nbr4mm.co.uk

A few images of my 4mm builds of the NBR carriages that I have drawn up. Image name show the reference numbers referred to in my post 13. The B&W image was sourced from Wikipedia under "tumbleholme" though it should really be described as "turn-under" in railway carriage descriptions. The castings are 7mm white-metal from John Boyle of Decent Models and were intended for his 4-wheel NBR carriages. I am not sure if these were passed onto Alba Models with his former 7mm CR range. Last image shows my 4mm castings on the under frame, in this case with the addition of the later fitted vacuum cylinders. The centre wheel-set has been included to show the Westinghouse though its position is different on the brake vehicles.

Jim - The castings from the former Decent Models range are useable though there are slight differences with the gas control box. I would prefer to have a brass alarm box as the white metal version does not survive the soldering iron very well. I had been in touch with John regarding their availability and that had been the main reason for wishing to source my own production. Similarly, the gas lamp castings that were available were of varying qualities, I suspect the original mould was getting tired. Peter - The roof is half etched with the conduit for the gas lights and roof gutter detail left on. I am not entirely happy with the arrangement as the profile of the roof is tricky to reproduce. I first roll the roof to an approximate contour, with the ends formed tighter in a hold-&-fold. With the carriage upside down, solder along the centre line next to the ends and partitions then gently press on the model while rotating the carriage and soldering the joins. Care has to be taken as if too much heat and too much pressure is applied then the roof can crease along the partition though this can be reduced by gentle sanding. If I were to produce the Holmes bogie carriages in 4mm or re-scale the 6-wheelers to 7mm then I would redesign the roof with formers and supports along the lines of Lochgorm Kits HR carriages. From the list already revealed it is possible to modify some of the carriages. 9305 can be converted to NBR(1921) Dia.114: LNER SSA Dia.90B: Saloon Third converted 1909 and NBR(1921) Dia.130: LNER SSA Dia.106B: Saloon Third converted 1909 9309 can be converted to NBR(1921) Dia.158: LNER SSA Dia.125B: Saloon Third converted 1909 9307 can be converted to NBR(1921) Dia.133: LNER SSA Dia.135B: Brake Third converted 1917 and NBR(1921) Dia.135: LNER SSA Dia.110B: Passenger Brake Van converted 1917 I should add that when I took over the former Eastfield Models range, it was really due to not wanting the range of chassis kits and the Fish Truck to disappear from the market. As no one else was showing any interest to take it on, I felt it was better to do something than stand back and regret the passing of yet another range. My own developments are really just a side line to my own hobby and my interest in the NBR which include my involvement with the East of Scotland 4mm Group layout of Burntisland 1883 which many of you may be familiar with and the North British Railway Study Group. If this was a commercial business then the receivers would have been called in some time ago! Any sales are used to subsidise further projects. I am grateful to all those who have supported me, whether it be with information and ideas and especially those who have had the confidence to make purchases and have allowed the developments to continue. Will update further next week.

The posting by Scott and the replies has prompted me to show my personal interest in NBR 6-wheelers. I have developed a range of NBR carriages in 4mm which are at various stages of readiness for release. I was holding back making any formal announcements having learnt my lesson with the NBR goods Brake vans and the 4-4-0 chassis for the GEM Scott and Glen which have taken far longer than expected. (I received the test run of the white-metal castings for the Goods Brake Vans at the end of February and should have the kits ready April 2015) A summary of the carriages and their status is below: 9300 NBR(1908) Dia.19: NBR(1921) Dia.20: LNER SSA Dia.18B: 6-compt 3rd (1880-99) 7'6" width - Photo-tool done and test built 9301 NBR(1908) Dia.18: NBR(1921) Dia.19: LNER SSA Dia.17B: 6-compt 3rd (1888-1901) 8'0" width - Photo-tool done and test built 9302 NBR(1908) Dia.17: NBR(1921) Dia.18: LNER SSA Dia.16B: 5-compt 1st (1877-99) 7'6" width - Photo-tool done and test built 9303 NBR(1908) Dia.16: NBR(1921) Dia.17: LNER SSA Dia.15B: 5-compt 1st (1882-99) 8'0" width - Photo-tool done and test built 9304 NBR(1908) Dia.53: NBR(1921) Dia.51: LNER SSA Dia.42B: 4-compt Brake 3rd (1875-90) - Photo-tool done and test built 9305 NBR(1908) Dia.54: NBR(1921) Dia.52: LNER SSA Dia.43B: Composite Lavatory (1882-99) - Photo-tool done but not yet test built 9306 NBR(1908) Dia.25: NBR(1921) Dia.26: LNER SSA Dia.24B: Passenger Brake Van (1875-90) - Artwork done but info on underframe reqd 9307 NBR(1908) Dia.14: NBR(1921) Dia.14: LNER SSA Dia. n/a: 4-comp luggage composite (1878) - Artwork done but info on underframe reqd 9308 NBR(1908) Dia.49: NBR(1921) Dia.48: LNER SSA Dia.39B: 4-compt Brake Composite (1883) - Photo-tool done and test built 9309 NBR(1908) Dia.55: NBR(1921) Dia.53: LNER SSA Dia.44B: Composite Lavatory (1887) - Photo-tool done and test built I have also developed artwork for 4-wheel carriages of 8'0 width: 9311 NBR(1908) Dia.20: NBR(1921) Dia.21: LNER SSA Dia.19B: 4-compt 1st (1882-93) 8'0" width - Test model built and proven 9310 NBR(1908) Dia.22: NBR(1921) Dia.23: LNER SSA Dia.21B: 5-compt 3rd (1882-93) 8'0" width - Test model built and proven If I was just providing etches, then they could have been available in 2013 but I wish to provide them as complete kits less the usual wheel/couplings/paint etc. Just as with my goods brake vans, it is the white-metal castings that takes time, being dependent on other people. Still to do are the gas lamps, emergency alarm and gas control box. Not too happy with the axleboxes as they require considerable adjustment by the modeller to fit. Resin seats have been made by me for both classes. It had been my hope that the Brassmasters Cleminson chassis would have been suitable but I discovered that it took up too much room on the underframe for any details to be added so one had to be drawn up that would suit the model.(Cleminson principle although not prototypical for NBR allows sufficient movement for pointwork and curves) The prototype carriages used 4'0" Mansell wheels while 3'6" are the largest size available in 4mm. Correspondence with Alan Gibson has proven that the S-scale centre can be used with a 16mm diameter tyre (on a 4mm axle) to give the required 4'0" This means however that you have to allow for cut-outs in the floor for clearance, just as the prototype did! As mentioned by Scott in his earlier post, I have resized some of the drawings to S-Scale and have been asked if I would consider doing so to 7mm. This remains a possibility (especially as I bought my first 7mm kits last year!) but it is not as straightforward as resizing the original drawing. Slots & tabs, holes and others have to be adjusted to suit the difference in metal thickness and details that worked in one scale may not in the other. My 7mm developments all depends how patient you are, I am not so much a cottage industry as a spare room industry and have my full time employment and a new house to work on....... Will try and post images later of the carriages built so far. Brgds Ian