3rd Rail Exile
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Yes. It was two cobbled together to make a set as they were bomb or collision damaged. I think there was three or four of them.
Jason
Graham Muz explains here:
To me this seems a clever, low-cost way for Hornby to pique the interest of the 3rd-rail fraternity (I've certainly ordered one) - it's certainly something a little "different"!
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Has anyone taken delivery of one of these yet, and, if so, does it run well and/or have any unanticipated problems?
Yes, mine arrived from Kernow yesterday. Running in at the moment - no problems so far!
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IIRC the 2020 cut-off date actually originated in the Disability Discrimination Act 2005 which pre-dates the PRM-TSI, so it's not an EU or Brexit issue - I gather the PRM-TSI merely applies to new or renewed/upgraded rolling stock and infrastructure.
Few (if any?) other EU countries have taken such a rigid approach.
Without getting (too) political, it's widely accepted that Britain is the only country that applies EU directives and regulations rigidly/properly (something to do with our natural rule-obeying nature perhaps)
Maybe that's why a (small) majority voted as they did...
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One for me please!
3rd Rail Exile
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I can't answer for the original poster, but I can answer why Hattons gets my business - they've earned it.
They reply to e-mails.
I've never had to chase an order from them for over a year.
I've never missed a pre-order because they "forgot about it, sorry, we're out of stock now, would you like a Class 37 instead?"
I've never had them send me the wrong model, and then been "well, it's yours now, we can't take it back, if you want to buy the one you really wanted, we can charge your card again"
And in the cases have gone wrong, including things like missing decoders in DCC Fitted models, the bag of detail parts being missing, etc. they've quickly and apologetically corrected the problem.
I don't get the bad attitude towards Hattons. They are not Amazon, or Walmart, or some giant corporation - they're just a local model shop that's "done good" and grown because they're successful.
By all means, order from your favorite shops, and avoid shops you've had issues with (all of the above are genuine responses I've gotten from "local model shops" about orders) - but telling people not to order from a shop, that is a successful part of our hobby, just because that shop is successful seems counter-productive.
And they have (for me at least - I can't speak for others) honoured the £319 pre-order price - I ordered before Hornby's 10% limit was introduced, so was slightly concerned...
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As hopefully this will be. Watch out for missing components, my coach 812004 is missing the silver equipment boxes that cover the coupling. I can also confirm the bogie catching issues.
Are you 100% sure that the 812004 coach should have them? Watching this video very slowly (about 3:19-3:20) suggests to me that the 8120xx coach doesn't have them...
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Some concerning comments about bogies catching and causing derailments. Are there any RMWeb’rs that have received their Hitachi’s and everything is running OK? I’ve got 2 arriving on Saturday and really hope they’ll be OK for their debut at the Leamington Spa Exhibition the following weekend.
Mine's very nearly great - the lighting in the composite coach works in one direction only (on DC - probably the contacts need more adjustment), but other than that it seems fine. Currently running round the outer circuit of a layout with curves of probably ~20-21" radius (the inner circuit was laid using an 18" radius Tracksetta), driven end at the rear (that's the direction in which all the lights work), with no problems. Well worth the full price pre-order from Hornby!
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The Stationmaster is, of course, totally correct. I was being deliberately vague by omitting the "DC" as I wasn't sure where the boundary ran!
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The level crossing isn't the only access to any properties.
Am I the only person who finds this whole situation utterly absurd and depressing? For HS2 we can bulldoze great swathes of property on the approaches to Euston, for Heathrow we can contemplate demolishing a whole village, but in rural Berkshire we have to pussyfoot around when a glance at Google Earth reveals that there is plenty of room to build a new road bridge and its approach roads in the village, but a few front gardens and bits of fields will be lost!
Minor pedantic point - that hasn't been Berkshire since 1974 - it's part of South Oxfordshire...
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I was going to press the funny button, but I think he might be serious
But he's right, isn't he?
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You can't beat Heinz beans - made in Wigan of course !!!!!
Factory motto - "Every little bean must be heard as well as seen" !!!
Brit15
Equally good (some might say better) tasting baked beans are made in North Cambridgeshire / South Lincolnshire...
It all depends on the can...
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Hex frog juicers are very good at supplying electrickery of the appropriate polarity to frogs, provided those frogs are part of a DCC layout. They are also a very expensive solution to a simple problem.
To supply a frog requires 3 wires. One to the frog, and one each to the stock rails. They should be connected to a single-pole change-over switch, whose moving contact is arranged to connect the appropriate stock rail to the frog, dependent on the blade positions.
This simple approach will support both DC and DCC (and, I suspect, though I’ve never tried it, AC systems too).
Of course this simple change-over system is incorporated in Tortoise motors (and presumably, Cobalts, too), but should you use servos, or wire-in-tube, or whatever other mechanical means to operate the blades, a simple microswitch will do the job.
Food for thought, I hope.
Meanwhile, a frog juicer, worthy of its name...
54BDBB00-77AE-44FC-92C4-C044B8F75471.jpegHappy thing!
Simon
I know a few frogs I'd like to juice with that!
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That's easy. Don't stop at Didcot.
Geoff Endacott
Harsh - it's a rapidly expanding town that is already in dire need of a much better service!
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Anyine tried to fit the brake rigging. All the location pins on mine seem too large, and how is the larger diameter bits meant to squeeze in the metal chassis?
It was a bit of a squeeze but it got there eventually - luckily both the rigging and the location points were flexible enough for a bit of bending. Agree the location pins are a tight fit, but they worked... The fun bit was finding the two bigger holes for the smaller bits of the brake assembly, and then ensuring they were glued in straight. Worth persevering though...
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Mine arrived today from Hornby - easy to remove the buffers on the Trailer Standards and the Buffet, but had to cut them off of the TGS (reflects the Lima heritage of the tooling for that particular coach, I presume). I know that the tooling is all a bit dated, but they look very good to me (I don't want lit interiors). It's now clear (if it wasn't before) why the power cars had to be gloss - not sure how else Hornby would have recreated the matt livery detail at one end of each coach. I'll have to try to work out how to close couple them though.
Just waiting for the belatedly announced First to arrive - that one has to come via Cornwall...
One for the magnifying glass brigade - I've only checked on Trailer Standard No 42351, but what's wrong with the coach designation letter printing (D in this case) - you'll have to check both ends
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Having been forced by work commitments to miss out last year, please can I book a place (just the one!) for this year?
Thanks,
James
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Has anyone fitted the tension-lock couplers supplied with this model? I'd be interested in your comments. (CJL)
First thing I had to do (as mentioned by others earlier in the thread) was remove the coupling hook and re-fit it from the correct side.
Once I'd done that and actually fitted the couplings into the NEM pockets I didn't think they quite clicked "home" positively (bogie frame prevents them going any further back) and they look to protrude an awfully long way forward... Couplings with shorter mountings might be an idea if I can find some...
And whilst investigating this, I just happened to notice the plating flaking off of the tread of one of the wheels - looks horribly brass-like underneath...
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yes, i am aware that the wiper can stop anywhere left to right, but both wiper assemblies are the same, whereas on the real loco they are handed. the pantograph arm sticks out towards the route indicator box from where the wiper blade fits. both on the model are to the left of the blade is what i am trying to get over. if you look at the JA on this page you can see the pantograph arms are reverse to each other http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/davidelement/railwaywebpage33eastleigh100.htm
Wow - I bow down to your superior eyesight! With specs on and a magnifying glass I think I can see what you mean.
I suppose having perhaps laser scanned an original with the wipers in this comparatively unusual configuration it was either a detail difference missed when the CADs were produced or (as you said earlier) a minor cost saving that they hoped they could get away with.
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well its done for cost saving as it is 2 left hand wiper arm assemblies, as the second mans side is not a reverse of the drivers side. i'd like to see you fit one with the pantograph that way on the real loco, the drive spindle is the wrong side
Just to add to the confusion, refer back to the 2nd picture in post #625 of this thread - wipers completely opposite to the way they are on the model!
Both towards the centre pillar is "normal" but as Pete 75C pointed out other configurations are clearly possible. A flick through a copy of "The Power of the Electro-Diesels" by CJ Marsden (OPC 1980) shows a variety of configurations...
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Oooo - I can just smell the brewing hops in the air from Fullers at Wandsworth (you need to have been to CJ in the 70's to understand)
Surely Youngs was Wandsworth - Fullers is Chiswick...
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Despite fitting into the category Andy Y describes as "not a brass and copper fan", I'd be interested in a decent tour round! Given it's within walking distance I ought to visit more regularly than I do!
Just the one place for me please...
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Hornby - New tooling - Mk3 slide-door coaches
in Hornby
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I'd assumed that there would be two different sets, one for each release date... This would be logical, but needs checking once the running numbers are confirmed...