tractor_37260

if i remember correctly the rails 47145 is on hold until the correct body moulding is available

Bit of info on the above: Word on the street is: Apparently the bodies had already been produced, before it was noticed that to be accurate for R/F General Livery - the roof boiler port should have been OPEN - as built. That body version is not available at present. Speculation has it, that the resulting surplus bodies (with plated boiler ports) went onto become 47 975 in Dutch livery ? The plated over boiler port body however is suitable AFAIN for 47 145 in R/F Distribution livery, and hence that's how it will probably appear. Perhaps it would have been better to wait until the correct original open boiler port body was available, the R/F General version would then have been possible, and probably more sought after, as Lima & Heljan have both previously done 47 145 in R/F Dist.

K

I have ordered an IC version to run with Mk3's/2's.

 

Does the new refurbished model overcome the wobbliness of the 57's and early 47?

 

N

>> No wobbles ! now as stable as any other Bach loco. Latest version also runs very quietly and smoothly straight out of the box.

K

Someone was asking for photos of 47572 Ltd Ed from Hornby Magazine - attached:

 

Not sure that my camera skills do it justice. The weathering finish is not bad and slightly reminiscent of the 37025 weathered version for anyone that has that one - I wish they had given the roof a more liberal dusting rather than the exhaust only look...

 

Cheers for posting the pics ! Looks very good, apart from as you say the roof weathering. Making it less prominent, an overall dusting, with a bit heavier around the exhaust port would have looked much better. Why do they use a "pure" Black, when a dirty dark grey, will always looks more convincing

K

Reading the description on the Rails site and looking at the prototype pictures they have provided, this livery seems to date from just after the start of privatisation.

 

It still carried the general user livery in May 1994:

 

http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_zoom_v2.php?img=1151051087211

 

It was displayed at the Crewe Open Day in October 1994 (was it repainted for this?) in the livery Rails have requested:

 

http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_zoom_v2.php?img=1151051080211

According to Rails - they changed the livery to R/F Dist due to customer feedback ? As both Lima and Heljan have already produced this loco in the R/F Distribution version, I would have thought the rarer R/F General version would have been more popular ? Very few locos ever carried R/F General brandings in traffic, 50 149, 47 145 and 37 104 - being one of only two 37's. 37 403 briefly carried a "mock-up" only version for a R/F Calendar. Still that's another one to cross off the "wanted list"

K

How many ltd ed 47s are out there just now? I found one I didn't know about at the weekend (and purchased instantly) - does anyone have the definitive list? That I know of:

 

Std releases: I/C 47614 Titan, LL 47535 Uni of Leicester, Parcels 47474 Sir Rowland Hill

 

Ltd Eds:

47461 Scotrail Blue Stripe (Rails)

47541 Scotrail Red stripe (Rails)

47145 Merrdyn Emrys (Rails to come in future)

47406 Intercity railriders (Gaugemaster)

47572 Large log Ely Cathedral weathered (Hornby Mag)

47xxx GW150 (Kernow)

47975 Dutch (Bachmann Direct)

47835 Intercity Swallow (Bachmann Direct to come in future)

47xxx NSE (Modelzone)

 

Interestingly no freight ones at all or late life BR Blue ones (2010/11 releases from Bach anyone??)

 

Anyone add to the list above???

 

M

Add 47 408 BR Blue (Finsbury Park) via (the DPS) celebrating the 50th Anniv of Finsbury Park Depot opening - 8/9 May 2010

Just received my 3 Bachmann 47461's today, 1 as an investment, 1 to keep as 47461 and 1 to change into 47705. However please take a good look if you have ordered any of these as 2 of mine arrived damaged. The parcel as delivered today was undamaged but the inner plastic packaging of 2 models was badly cracked and broken with the resulting damage of broken/loose handrails. I phoned Rails and they have told me to return the damaged ones but I think I will still keep the less damaged one to turn into 47705 and ask for a refund on the other. Anyway please be aware of a possible damage issue.

Thanks for the tip - will now look closely at my 461 when it arrives for any damage. Perhaps you've not noticed, but as for changing a 461 into 47705, although the shell has the correct flush No1 end etc, the roof boiler port being correct for 461, is wrong for 47705 ! but it depends how fussy you want to be ?

Images of 47 461 have been added to rails website. Still not syre about the strip widths (like 541)

I'd agree the stripe widths on 541 are a bit out of proportion to each other etc. The white stripe should be thinner in depth, the red stripe a fraction thinner also. I'm also not convinced by the shade of yellow used, although on a previous poster's photos it looks OK. Perhaps the models were produced in more than one batch ? the yellow on my example reminds me of the orangey/yellow Hornby used a few years back ? The livery overall, however, has been well applied. Bachmann must take note of some comments made on web groups ?, straight out of the box, this model runs very quietly/smoothly with no wobble at all (unlike their first 47 versions) with no trace of the gratting gear noises found on many of their 6 axle drive Class 37's ! On checking, the axles/wheel treads are all in perfect alignment, no pivoting on a lower centre axle was found - excellent. Unfortuneately when fitting a decoder, the tank frame on my example almost fell off on it's own, not helped by the very tight fit of the body on the chassis. I suspect one or more of the mounting brackets on the tank frame were perhaps already broken on assembly at the factory ? Finally, why have separate wire cab door handrails, and then fit them FLUSH with the bodyside recesses

Re 47 461 On first viewing the photos on Rails site, the blue/white stripes looked a bit too far up the bodysides, and possibly a bit thick as per 541, after checking photos of the real loco, they were indeed applied slightly further up than usual, however I still think the model looks wrong in this respect. Nice to see the correct different height brandings, flush No 1 end, and the radio aerials (would have preferred them on 541 also)

Since changing over to DCC control in the last few years, I've found the need to clean track/wheels etc very much reduced, once cleaned, they appear to stay clean much longer than when using DC even WITH HF cleaners. The then commonly used "rubber traction tyres" were I believe, partly to blame !

The 23mm speakers are not low end/bass capable speakers and in my opinion, tend to sound 'tinny' on their own.

 

I suspect that the reason 'people still prefer the 2 x 23 over base' is because they haven't recognised the purpose of the bass. It isn't meant to be used on its own because it only handles the lower end sounds. It should be used with a secondary speaker such as the 23mm so that the two different speakers handle different frequencies at different ends of the range. A bass definitely does sound 'dumbed down' on its own, but supplemented with a 23mm, sounds _really_ good.

 

I have fitted both a DCC Supplies Bass-reflex and 20x40 or 23mm to my diesels and the results are far superior to just a pair of 23mm speakers. It became very apparent to me that the bass renders sounds which were not even audible with 23mm's on their own (various 'hums', motors and fans etc) - because they are not designed for those frequencies.

 

This is why hi-fi systems use multiple different speaker sizes. We should do the same.

Hi Scott

Aha - someone who thinks along the same lines as myself - re the "horses for courses" hence as in Hi Fi the best sounding speaker units always use different speakers to reproduce different parts of the frequency range. The space/room size etc, and also how it's furnished/or not will also change the perceived sound. What sounds good in a small bedroom may be lost at a show - because of the sheer area size and ambient noise - hence I would agree with piemanlarger on his choice of 2 x 23ml in the tanks as being better for big areas/shows etc - his video's (at a clubroom ?) easily confirms this. But in a normal sized house room, I find with a 37 the combination of Bass enhanced speaker under the grille + a 23ml in the tanks gives a very acceptable "noise" With the bass enhanced fitted, you can hear the "beating" of the exhaust on idle, which is just not audible (at least to my hearing) using 1 or 2 - 23ml speakers. The "thrash" sounds more convincing also

Good thread this one

Ken

Hi Chaps

 

I am building a DC controller and want to use the same connectors as my Lenz Set 100 system so I can just substitute it for the DCC controller and use the same connections to the track and PSU. Does anyone know where they can be got from or what type they are. I tried looking at Molex but too many to choose from. I dont need the plugs which are Lenz part LY001 but the sockets which I cannot find.

 

Help please!

See:http://www.dccsupplies.com/shop/index.php?cPath=23_219 - you should find what your looking for there Good prices also

Oops just noticed it's the "pcb sockets" that your after ask DCC supplies - they are very helpful

Brought a load of photo's back from the UK last week to scan and had these sorted Sat, but then thought no point

uploading onto the old site!

Not sorted dates out for most yet, and the Cl26 is a bit poor but better than nothing I guess...

 

cheers

Keith

Super photos Keith of "real trains"

The "pug" 08 717 is at Inverness - see below for photo of the other side. Date late 80's ?

47 604 is on the blocks also at Inverness - the old NCL office block windows (used to work for them some years back) in the background that was in front of the goods shed - now long gone and replaced by a shopping mall - Debenhams etc

Regards

Ken