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Llantrisant always had a few stabled outside the goods shed.They generally were for Mwyndy.

I think St Austell & Penzance coal yards lasted until about 1984.Drinnick Mill took over then but only lasted a short while. 

I understand  that D1048 Western Lady worked coal empties to Six Bells Colliery Abertillery,from either STJ or East Usk 

I dont know what the finished product contained.Most of the tinplate was sold to Metal Box who then sent the cans for filling.I know Crosse & Blackwell was one such customer but people like Heinz had the tinplate direct, so I assume they made the tins & filled them ? Metal Box at Wisbech used to make the cans and send them to Scotland for petfood,once filled they were returned to Wisbech for distribution.

No The coils & packed tinplate was at Ebbw Vale.I think the nearest destintaion for East Ham was Barking.

I saw coils wrapped in wax type paper but the tinplate packs seem to have the edges protected and signode banded ?

The acid used at Ebbw Vale pickle line came from Six Pit Junction ISC or National Smeltig,in small blue tank wagons which in 1970 looked as if they had seen a lot of service.The numbers on the tanks were in the 500 series and once empty were returned back to Six Pit.Avonmouth sent acid to Bedwas Coke Ovens Trethomas by rail and also ECLP at Drinnick Mill

possably to combat rust in transit ??

Possibly but not too sure.The tanks from Haverton Hill contained Sodium Nitrite liquor.Two examples are as follows ;

Feb 21st 1972 Tank ICI 495 contained the above to Upton Park Consignee The New London Electron Works

April 18th 1975 Tank ICI 490 Contained the above To Llanelli Consignee Barchelor Robinson

When I spoke on the telephone to the yard foreman at Upton Park in November 1980 all the tin scrap then went to Hartlepool.,With the flucuation in demand I assume this was switched to Llanelli as well sometime later.The inward coal traffic into Upton Park had dwindled to about 2 wagons a week by 1980 and I assumed just went downhill from there.Other traffic for The New London Electron Works in the early 70's was an occasional tank from Haverton Hill of Caustic I think.I will check this out later.Another 2 locations which sent Tin scrap tp Upton Park was Worcester and Velindre Works ,Llangyfelach !!

The tinplate was stocked near the fenceline of Grangewood Street in huge piles.In the early 1970's 16 ton mineral wagons conveyed the scrap from Wisbech East,Ebbw Vale,llanelli Trostre Works & Aintree to Upton Park for de-tinning.The stockpile of scrap observed in 1973 had not been detinned and was loaded up in 16 ton minerals for Llanelli & Hartlepool for Batchelor Robinson  so I assume that either the plant at Upton Park had closed or there was over capacity held on site ?? 

Hi,I visited Upton Park Goods yard in 1973 and there were two signs at the entrance,one modern sign the other as mentioned was blue & white.In 1973 the main traffic was scrap tinplate off cuts.This was received from Metal Box Factories and reloaded into 16 Ton minerals for Llanelli & Hartlepool.There was also a few wagons of coal received every week for Hulbert Bros,Turp and Peter Burns.I have an interesting memo dated in the 60's requesting 2 brakevans for the Upton Park trip making it easier to run round at Gas Factory Junction.July 1984 seems to be a relalistic date for closure, this in line with the miners strike and the withdrawal of wagon load coal traffic in conventional wagons.

Coal traffic out of Wapping Wharf was usually coal duff which was as a result of screening at the CCD.This went to Uskmouth Power Station a few times a year.