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Oh dear! Here's a clue then. 61648.

Glad you chose that loco and not 61662 - that really would be rubbing salt into the wound!

 

Mind you, last Sunday wasn't up to much for supporters of a much better outfit was it?

 

 

Sorry Gilbert, I haven't got a clue what you're talking about!

 

Sounds perfect for both reasons to me ....you did say a number of North Eastern Pacifics were known to appear at Peterborough. If she appeared at Newark in 1956, would that have most likely meant she would have come off that train at Peterborough?

I think North Eastern locos usually came off at Grantham, I suspect this was purely for logistical reasons. Grantham shed was adjacent to the station so it was possible to turn, coal and water a loco ready for its return journey in a relatively short space of time. New England shed was about two miles from Peterborough North so it would have taken considerably longer to turn a loco there.

 

Of course there is always that final recourse for locos working out of their normal geography - football excursions, though I don't know where Peterborough Town FC were, in the football league, in your chosen timescale. So, York playing Peterborough in the FA Cup with York having a sudden, unexplained shortage of Pacific, V2 or B1 availability and resorting to a B16?

 

After all, it's your layout so you can make the pretext whatever you wish.

 

But I'm completely stumped as to how you could justify one of the ex-NER 0-8-0's at New England .

 

Cheers

 

Mike

In 1958 Peterborough United (not Town!) were probably the leading non-league team in the country. They had a number of noteable FA Cup runs around this time and were attracting considerable support as a result. Football specials could, therefore, provide an excellent excuse for running locos that would not normally be seen in the area, should Gilbert wish to model them of course. As an aside, I know for a fact that Gilbert is a Lincoln City supporter who is not particularly fond of the 'Posh'!

 

I now have numbers 39,46,48,50,55,56,59,62,67,70,90,105 and 111. Identity of the latest one not yet decided. As i've decided to get as near as possible to prototype running it's not surprising that I need so many locos . I'm also thinking of having a card system to build in a few problems- loco failures/boiler washouts etc, in which case I shall need even more! I couldn't do it with just a few though. It just wouldn't look right to have the same locos turning up every few minutes. Any excuse.......

Personally I think that 60110 would be an excellent choice!

Thanks, I have actually read all the "Banks" books and enjoyed them! All the ones I can get hold of over here, I mean....

 

Best, Pete.

Obviously preaching to the converted then. As you know, Banks (and obviously Peter Robinson himself) is a great music fan which would obviously be of interest to you. Have you read 'Piece of My Heart', The one where he reinvestigates the murder of a young girl at a festival in 1969? He mentions many of the big groups of the day who you would no doubt be familiar with. Who knows, you might even have played in one of them!

Hi Pete,

I'm currently working my way through the Inspector Banks novels by Peter Robinson and am really enjoying them. Banks is an ex London cop who has transferred to a small town in the Yorkshire dales which seems to have a phenominal murder rate! The stories are full of twists and turns, not to mention the odd red herring, and really keep your attention right to the last page.

I understand that Ian Rankin speaks highly of them, which is no bad recommendation.

In the past, for 'Blood and Custard', I've used 'VW Tornado Red' and 'Lada Cream' (not sure if the latter is still available though). A mate, who is old enough to remember this livery told me he thought it was pretty well spot on. Several years ago, Tony Wright suggested 'Ford Burgandy Red' as a good match for BR Maroon. I've used this ever since and think it looks about right.

Hope this helps.

I confess you've got me beaten with that one Stuart.

I think this might be a misquote. The actual words of the poem, IIRC, were 'You're a better man than I am Gunga Din'. I think Stuart is paying you a compliment!

Hi Gilbert,

Things seem to be coming along at a pace now, don't they? Really pleased to see the progress you are making as, it seems, are many other people. Up to page 12 of this thread now which shows how popular this project is. I'll look forward to seeing it in the flesh at some point, hopefully in the not too distant future.

Regards

 

Just to put it in perspective though, here's what the professionals can achieve, though in fairness TW was using a camera which cost rather a lot more than mine. This is just a staged shot, which would never have occurred in real life, but I think it looks rather nice.

Coming along nicely Gilbert, let's hope that Mr. Wright will be in a position to take some more photos as work progresses.

This and a porthole corridor 3rd make up a 4 coach set for Heyside/Derby Line - Coachman - look away now!

 

Very nice Tony, well up to Coachman's standards IMO. The only difference is, he would probably knocked that out while he was waiting for the kettle to boil!

Terrific progress yesterday. One of those rare days when everything goes as planned. As a result, the whole of the scenic side is now wired, and accessory decoders installed. :D

 

Glad to see that things are going well. It's very gratifying when you have one of those rare days where everything goes right, makes up for the times when, it seems, everything is against you!

We have another day scheduled for tomorrow, so we will see how we get on then. It will be a year to the day since the baseboards went up.

12 months already? Crikey, it's amazing how quickly the time goes!

Coming along nicely Gilbert, Norman's trackwork is absolutely superb, and I can see, in my mind's eye, how it will look when the platforms and station buildings are in place.

With regard to the'unprototypical' trackwork south of Crescent Bridge, how about ballasting it and then build a representation of the old sheet store (which still exists and is now 'Furnitureland' or something IIRC) which could act as a scenic break? That way you wouldn't have to pretend that those lovely flowing points are not actually there!

Look forward to seeing it in the flesh sometime soon.

My top three have also all been mentioned already.

1 Buckingham - I found this rivetting when I was a lad. Almost totally scratch built by one person over many years is certainly inspirational in my book.

2 Garsdale Road - With this layout I realised the sort of railway I would like to build - a simple through station where I could watch the trains go by.

3 Stoke Summit - For similar reasons to those above except that, here, they dispensed with the station altogether. Also, over the years, I've got to know the guys who built it well and consider them good friends.

Hi Tony,

It looks fine to me and I'm sure that, when it's finished, it will be up to your usual high standard.

Regards

Rob

When The Levee Breaks - Led Zeppelin

One of my suitably filthy down at heel Bachmann New England ones will be rostered as stand by in due course, until something better comes along....

Sounds good to me

I wonder what hauled special 573?

My guess would be a New England B1.

I didn't say it was a New England engine though. In fact it was shedded at Kings Cross. it's by far the nicest V2 I have, so that's why it featured. Just don't ask why a KX engine is being used by New England when they had over 30 of their own to choose from.

Perhaps, if someone produces a decent R-T-R V2, you could acquire one and suitably dirty it up so that it looks more like a Peterborough pilot. It would be a shame not to use the scratch built on a more suitable working, a relief express or a fitted goods for instance.

The V2 looks lovely Gilbert. I take it that this particular loco had been 'shopped' during the summer of 1958 and had just been released back into traffic. New England engines never stayed clean for long!

New job doesn't start 'til Monday, I'll keep you posted though.

Nice photos of progress so far, I particularly like the one of your good lady holding the piercing saw. In fact, it's occurred to me that your modelling has come on in leaps and bounds since you got married. I'm beginning to wonder if Mrs G isn't actually doing all the work and you're just claiming the credit for it!

Rob

The bogies - I put something good on the radio and just soldiered on through them, whilst observing the 10 inches of snow outside!

 

Soldiering on or Soldering on?

Happy New Year

Rob

What a fantastic piece of modelling! I look forward to seeing further updates as work commences - well done.