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hi Colin, the plan at the moment is to use brass channel for the internal structure. By the time this is finished, the weight is going to be substantial so styrene just won't be strong enough. I had considered casting resin for some parts, but brass will give me the strength I need for the long term. I'm in the process of drawing up the structure just now but I have a couple of projects on the go so it may be a little time before I get to the bogies - though I just ordered a load of materials this weekend so maybe that will give me the impetus to get moving on this again

Things are progressing slowly but surely. Now that I got the information I needed, I could progress with the bogies. Initially I tried to make these in brass but several failed attempts made me reconsider styrene as a material. I know styrene will never support the weight of the carriage once complete, but I figure I can make the internal bogie structure out of brass and just use styrene as a non load bearing outer casing. I drew up the sideframe full size, scaled it by 1/32 then printed out copies which were then taped to sheet styrene. I found a little bit of preforming of the styrene went a long way to getting a good form. There's still a lot of shaping and sanding to do but with a bit of work, I think these will pass muster..... I never realized there were so many rivets and bolts in a bogie! I soon had a production line going and used the same method to create the headstocks Now all that's left is to spend a few hours sanding and sanding and sanding..... urghhhhh I did a quick test with some 1mm rivets I had left over from a previous project and it looks like these will be just the ticket for the bogies. It doesn't look like much now but it's amazing what a coat of primer can do.... eventually! Now, all that's left is to source some wheels before I can build the internal structure for the bogies. I haven't been able to find anything suitable here in the US so I've emailed a few places in the UK to see how much it's going to cost.

This will be a stand alone model. Hopefully the quality will be good enough for me to display it when complete - at least that's the plan

I thought I'd add a few photo's of the build. I opted to use brass for the chassis for strength purposes - my first attempt at soldering ( a lot of firsts for me on this project) I am trying to remain as faithful as possible to the original chassis - while allowing for scale effect. I am trying to be accurate in the build but there are areas where true accuracy will be impossible, and there are other areas where I have taken small liberties. For example, the battery box. The original was very bland so I copied the style of battery box from another Pullman to add a bit of visual interest. Gangway supports were made from a combination of brass and styrene, with rivets from Scale Hardware. The rivets seen along the chassis were small pieces of styrene rod superglued in position. Effluent and water tanks fitted - both scratched from styrene sheet, rod, tube and whatever came to hand With the information gained form this forum, I can now proceed with the bogie build. I guess I now have a few hours of sanding and shaping ahead of me

Peter, the intent is to scratch build pretty much everything. - I made the chassis out of brass C channel for strength. The majority of the structure will probably be from styrene and whatever else I can lay my hands upon - it's amazing what you can find when you look. I had come across the tenmille site before during one of my frequent searches for information. There's a few parts which I think I could use, but I'd like to attempt to scratch build them first. I know it's going to be big - I wanted it big enough to be able to add a good level of detail - It's also going to be a very long project but it's been a project I have wanted to do for a long time so I am going to savor it

Thanks for the info - very useful. The 7'3" is the width of the vertical side frames and doesn't include the rolled flange at the top of the bogie - correct ? (Told you I know nothing about trains!)

Hi, I'm new to the forum and must admit to being completely ignorant of almost all things "train" My aplogies if this is in the wrong forum,,,, but it's scratch building related so I thought this should be the place - please move if this is not the case. I am in the process of scratch building a Pullman carriage and have run into a road block as I cannot find the information I need to make the bogies. The information may well be out there but my lack of knowledge of things and terms train related may be causing me to miss them. To the point... I am scratch building a Pullman carriage in 1/32 scale, and the bogies are proving troublesome for me. I found some good photo's on-line and some other reference material which allowed me to do the side frames in CAD and scale to 1/32 This is the particular bogie style I am attempting to make I believe the bogies are Gresley 8'6" <= I assume the 8'6" is in reference to the wheel centers ? The information I am looking for is: What is the width of the bogie ? (from the outer face to outer face of the side frames) What wheel diameters are used ? (I have seen reference to 3'6" and 3'7") When wheel diameter is referenced I assume this is the diameter of the tire that sits on the rail, and not the flanged part - is that true ? Any help would be appreciated and I am sure I will have a thousand other questions as my build progresses