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16 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said:

Nothing at all, just give them a very wide berth....

@'CHARD as he said!

Shame that everyone who's had the Covid vaccine doesn't have that yellow halo in the latest NHS adverts, we'd soon know who the anti-vaxxers were!

You won't get Ole, that result has no doubt saved him... I wouldn't mind Poch to take over from Pep...

They've welded some rumble strips on the ends which may well slow down rusting on the welds, but the growth of the weeds shows it's been unused for a long time, I still stand by the angle of the light giving a false impression.

Got my booster booked for Tuesday...

Just the angle of the sun in both cases?!

1 hour ago, Neil said:

Finally, I realise that from time to time I'll take a cheap shot, but they're at open goals and I do have the honesty to admit it. 

Therein lies my problem, if you'd just kept it neutral I'd be OK with it, but the bias shows. I've been discussing it offline, and my own leanings, I'll freely admit, are very slightly right of centre, according to one of those tests, only just off centre! I'm pretty neutral according to that test!

So it annoys me when people use an example such as the Commons mask wearing to make a cheap shot. Especially when it's blatent hypocrisy by the politicians concerned.

On both sides.

Whilst I also don't agree with the non mask wearing on the government side at least they weren't being two faced about it.

Two wrongs don't make a right!! 

As I said before I'd prefer we get back to Covid discussion. Without the politics. 

Not had a can conditioned beer yet, must give them a try when I see one!

The point I was making is that they can still be "bought", no matter how good we may think they are the political party they stand under always holds sway (or they switch to another and that has the same effect!). The best MP I've ever had was a true Independent, although voted in under one particular banner (return of our A&E) he turned out to be the best thing since sliced bread (to use a phrase!). Whenever he voted he held himself up for examination by his constituents by always explaining why he voted the way he did. People may have disagreed with his decision but couldn't fault his honesty. Sadly missed.

I'd like to believe it was true, and for the majority of backbenchers it may well be, but they can still be "bought" as my constituency found out to our cost after the 1997 election. Hence I tend to be very cynical of all of them!  

46 minutes ago, Nearholmer said:

 

Acquired immunity isn't lifelong in all cases, even in some cases where the disease that causes it isn't evolving to any extent. I was reading up on this last night, and discovered that Tetanus is one that for complex reasons our system is poor at handling, and about eleven years after infection or vaccination we have no immunity left.

That's interesting and contradicts what I was told in my local A&E recently. When I was a kid I was bitten by a dog and was given a tetanus injection. Recently our cat had a daft moment one night and landed on top of me with her claws out resulting an a rather deep wound. Playing safe I went to get a tetanus jab but when they checked my history they told me I wouldn't need one as my childhood jab meant I would still have some resistance. I was just given antibiotics, nothing happened, I assume her claws were clean! 

Sat at 1 metre and wearing masks, please!  

Fine, Andy, but this isn't the first time we've seen blatant political comments. I haven't accused you of any bias, just that these posts by being left to stand and not deleted/modified would appear to to say that political bias is allowed.

If people had taken the time to look beyond the headline pictures they'd have seen that the "mask photo" was dubious at best, there are photos on Twitter that show Keir in very close proximity with other members of his party in the last few days without any masks present. Although the two people concerned haven't tested positive it is clear that the mask wearing was only done in the Commons and was a typical case of "do as I say, not as I do". I'd have more respect for all parties if they all behaved responsibly, the catalogue of going places they shouldn't, non mask wearing, hugs, etc., etc., from all sides of the political spectrum and even the "experts" clearly show a lack of understanding of "acting responsibly". Which makes the opposition's mass mask wearing look stupid.

39 minutes ago, Nearholmer said:

These things generally go badly wrong if any of us rises to the bait dangled by someone of an opposite persuasion, or starts calling politics when someone expresses a view that challenges our own too deeply.

 

Which is to say it takes at least two to make a fight, and it’s sometimes worth turning the other cheek for the sake of continuing peace.

I'd just rather they didn't make the first post.

38 minutes ago, Zero Gravitas said:

 Just corrected that second quote for you :-)

Yes, Zero Gravitas I'm afraid I was guilty of taking the bait... Though in my defence I only pointed out the obvious irony of the situation which seemed to be lost on the OP, and didn't try to make a politically bias post like they did. Perhaps you missed that.

Alternative viewpoints are fine, and are not politics, but there are certain people that clearly are using this thread to make digs at the party they clearly dislike whilst ignoring what their own favourites are up to. And it seems to suit some people to allow it.

As the thread title says, it's about Covid and there should be no politics, we've managed that for nearly 200 pages, it's a shame that it's now reappearing just like the locked thread and is spoiling it for many of us who are trying to discuss Covid and not taking part in cheap party politics, surely there's enough of that in the Commons without it having to spread here?!

"No Polictics"...

Except when it suits.

They weren't doing too badly until the last twenty minutes when I think tiredness took over, I doubt most of the Latvian players are playing at anywhere the same level as the English players on a week by week basis. 

I just found it amusing that it was the leader of the party who were plugging mask wearing that got it, perhaps he wasn't as careful when not on camera!? 

The impression I got was that they didn't quite have enough  but did a deal with a centre left party to get one! 

11 hours ago, peanuts said:

Talking of vauxhalls this Carlton GSI3000 popped up at one of my deliverys the other day in for a services and some minor TLC realy was very tidy and very original. 

Neat parking as well, fully on the pavement and across a dropped kerb! 

9 hours ago, Andy Hayter said:

The politics are incidental, I was trying to point out that they are not mainstream.  They might equally be very left wing and for all I know the Romanian Peasants party may be.

Just for the record it's called the Christian Democratic National Peasants Party and is centre-right... And has one MEP but no representatives in their own parliament!!

10 hours ago, Nearholmer said:

Are you detecting a drift in that direction in England then? Because, I can't say that I am.

I must admit that is what I see as well and was therefore surprised at Eddie's comment. However I also find that it very much depends on the location, my experience of city centres such as Birmingham, Leeds and Newcastle is very different compared with small towns such as where I live where mask wearing, for instance, is still very much in evidence. Seems people living in the big urban conurbations don't care as much?

8 hours ago, monkeysarefun said:

On the 4 tier system where 1 is "the  risk of danger and COVID is the same as faced here in Australia" and level 4  is "Just don't go there!" the UK is at level 2  -  "Exercise a high degree of caution due to the risk of COVID and warm beer with bits in it".

Only level 2? I feel very let down, we should be at least level 3!!

(At least you can taste our "warm" beer!  )

10 hours ago, Zomboid said:

Is one of the pit stop guys really going to go at a pop star with a wrench?

Oh I don't know, I could be tempted if I was one!

Just been watching the end of England Women's annihilation of Latvia, some pretty impressive play by the England team and a result the current men's team would dearly like to have!

On 25/10/2021 at 13:51, Steamport Southport said:

They've got to lower their expectations a bit.  They aren't the massive club anymore that's going to win everything, every season without opposition. They need to step back a bit and rebuild. Stop buying the big name flops that cost £100 million and buy quality hard working players. Or bring a few good youngsters through from the youth system.

 

If you get rid of the manager, you just start the same thing again. Then again.  Any manager needs time and needs the boo boys to get off their back. 

As far as results are concerned, no, not at the moment, but they are still the biggest club in the world so they are still "massive"!

I agree wholeheartedly with the rest of that paragraph, though their fans need to give them time, as do the owners, and I don't see the patience from either of them to allow it to happen, hence the sticking plaster expensive players and up and down results.

Regarding the manager, whilst I have some sympathy with what you say, for it to work you have to have the right manager in place to do that and be trusted to do it, I'm not convinced that Ole, nice bloke that he is, is that manager at that level.

I said before that one player can't "save" a club. I was chatting with a United  fan a day or two ago and we both agreed that whilst they have some great individual players they are just that, "individual" players, and don't seem to like playing as a team. The top three on the other hand also have some great players but they play as part of a team and don't do their own thing. Of all the United players Pogba is the best example of this lack of team play, though Ronaldo isn't a great deal better. Contrast that with Salah who was often seen going to help out the defence when needed on one match I saw a week or two back. There's nothing wrong with buying in older players, plenty of clubs have done it successfully, but they have to fit in and play as part of a team. I just don't see that at United, sadly. Trouble is next time Ronaldo or Pogba turn up and score goals they'll be hailed again as United's saviours whilst the truth is very different.