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Congratulations on reaching the magic 1000, David. Thanks for another wonderful day of time travel.

22 hours ago, MidlandRed said:

According to Longman - BRITISH RAILWAYS First Generation DMUs, Norwich 32A set 57 for 1972 has E51279 as class 105 power power car, paired with class 105 trailer E56436 - however with the proviso the trailer cars were swapped around regularly and the set number remained with the power car. Presumably, the class 101 was a temporary pairing.

Not that it is any help (whatsoever) but, in March 1972, 51279 was running with 56101 - which was a Gloucester driving trailer.

Oh, and the 'Deltic' in J4007 is 55 004 (long nameplate, oval crest).

Further to the DMU corrections, David, C1032 & C1033 are a Class 105/101 hybrid, rather than a 105 pair. I'm sure that (somewhere) I would be able to locate set formations from that time and tell you what vehicles Norwich set 57 was - but, at present, I have no idea where to look!  😁

10 hours ago, russ p said:

Great pictures David C714 has a thompson buffet car by the look of it

That might well be the down "Highwayman", a booked class 40 turn. E1705E and E1706E were regulars on those trains.

7 hours ago, DaveF said:

Swayfield Class 47 up ex pass Dec 74 C1837  Headcode not on Napier-chronicles website

 

David

It's *probably* a Christmas scheduled relief train, David. Although the Eastern Region used to use 1Gxx for internal specials/charters, they tended to use high numbers for scheduled, period reliefs.

According to my notes from the time, in the run up to Christmas 1974 there were Anglo-Scottish reliefs in the 1S9x series and on Christmas Eve I have records of a 1A60, 1A80, 1A83. I couldn't find a 1A62 but it might have just run at the wrong time for me.  😄

5 hours ago, DaveF said:

High Dyke Class 31s 5875 and 5873 light engines Oct 69 J2017

5675 and 5673, David - the tablet-catcher fitted ones for the High Dyke branch (5862 was the highest numbered Brush 2).  😁

C3399 can only be one of two Deltics, either 55 004 or 55 016. Both were in traffic in July 1977. IMO, the plate isn't long enough for "QUEEN'S OWN HIGHLANDER" and the crest isn't round enough or big enough. I'm pretty certain that it's "GORDON HIGHLANDER".

Going back a day, David, to J1185, I think you'll find that this is class 45 D102, rather than class 46 D182.

The class 46s were all delivered with centre headcodes (the early ones with a split bar between the two pairs of numbers/characters - later replaced by the standard single panel). The highest numbered 'Peak' with split boxes, either side of the space intended for connecting doors (only fitted to the first five 45s and subsequently removed in favour of a central headcode panel, at refurbishment) was D107.

C2489 is 55 004. The big crest is a bit of a giveaway.

It's one of the four Haymarket locos with a single line plate. It isn't 13 because it has a crest (13's were lost in the late 60s);  it isn't 16 because that was in works and it isn't 22 because of the lack of the giveaway non-standard front footstep.

5 hours ago, Market65 said:

That is a delightful set of photo’s of the Woodhead route on both sides of the Pennines, starting at Hazlehead on the Yorkshire side and then moving to beyond the western end of the Woodhead Tunnel at Torside and Dinting. In J079, at Torside, with Class 76 (EM1), 26000, Tommy, on a westbound coal train, in November, 1963, your Dad has taken a superb photo’ of the first of the electric locomotives to be built and introduced by the LNER.

Coincidentally, the previous image (J1093) features 26017 - which was one of the original quartet to be withdrawn, in March 1970, along with "Tommy". 26017, together with 26035 and 26042, were withdrawn in green livery and were still present at Reddish in July 1971, when I first visited.

2 hours ago, keefer said:

Just noticed, 1S17 is the 10.00 from KX, i think i (mis)remembered it was 08.00.

How long would it take an 95-100mph max. express to reach here from KX?

1S17 used to pass Peterborough, Deltic-hauled, at about 11:01 every day, so it would be through Abbots Ripton at around 10:45 - a few minutes later when class 47-hauled but, even then, it would only be between 3 and 5 minutes slower.

Assuming that the image of the class 40 (C2200) was taken on the same day, 1S88 was a scheduled SO relief (IIRC).My notes show that 1S88 used to pass Peterborough at about 11:54/11:55. That would suggest that C2193 may well be the down "Flying Scotsman", albeit 47-hauled.

Tsk. C1037. Sloppy headcode setting (unless it had slipped, through vibration). Should be 1B13 outward and 1C15 on the return at that time - although they did later change to 1B69 and 1C18.

Lovely images, as always - you've got me trying to identify the aircraft in C1038, now.

C568 reminds me of how unobservant I was in 1970/71. I hadn't realised how many Brush 4s still had the three-part, fixed radiator grills, as opposed to the two-part Serck hydrostatic variant, that became standard (until superseded by the Class 57-style four-part ones).

C1139 is also interesting. 1A20 is a train that I very rarely (if ever) saw, as it fell plumb into lunchtime for me! I'd see 1A15/1A16, the up "Tees-Tyne Pullman" and "Yorkshire Pullman", but then nothing until I returned in time for 1A22 (as pictured in J2474).

C3385 - according to RailGenArchive, 31 178 was assisting 47 546 on 1A08, 08:30 Leeds - London King's Cross on Monday 25th July, 1977 and had earlier been seen passing Grantham.

23 hours ago, MidlandRed said:

J3241 (Skillington Junction) shows another one of the handful of Brush Type 2s with tablet catcher equipment (visible protruding from the driver’s door) used on the High Dyke branch - it’s also in the original version of the corporate blue/full yellow end livery, with BR symbols on each cab side and loco numbers behind each door (centralised between the ‘lines’ of the arrow symbols. Oh for an Accurascale variant of their class 31 in this format!!

5673 in J2996, similarly fitted, is in a different (later?) variant of the blue livery (numbers on cab sides, symbol central to the body side). 

Immingham's 5670 to 5676 were the batch fitted with tablet-catcher equipment for the High Dyke branch trains. The early class 31 repaints were of the 'cabside double arrows and bodyside numbers' style;  from around the end of 1971 the 'cabside numbers and mid-bodyside single double arrow' style became the new standard, which persisted until the advent of sector liveries. Only a couple of the High Dyke locos went from green, via the earlier blue repaint style, to the later style;  most of them were repainted from green, after the single double arrow style had been adopted as standard.

2 hours ago, Donington Road said:

 

It was still open for iron ore trains from the Nassington Quarry which closed in February 1971.

It was also used for infrequent school trains to Oundle. The last passenger train to Oundle was on 4th November 1972, from Peterborough North, via a reversal at Peterborough East (I was on it). It was supposed to have been formed of a six-car DMU and tickets had been sold, accordingly. On the day, a five-car set appeared, a three-car Derby Works Class 125 (51156+59458+50998) and a two-car set, missing a driving vehicle (59449+51169). Needless to say, there wasn't a lot of room!

Regarding Sunday's ECML images, I'd suggest that C403 is 9013 "THE BLACK WATCH". It's clearly one of the four Haymarket Deltics with single line nameplates and the lack of a crest above the nameplate suggests that it would be 13, which lost its crests before receiving blue livery and never gained replacements. The other three retained their crests until the later part of the 1970s.

Good morning, David.

Re: J4351, the first of the Abbots Ripton batch, it's not 47 295, as it has ETS jumpers on the front. With a closer look, it appears to be 47 5xx, possibly ending in a 6. I've had a look through my notes for June 1975 but, unfortunately, 1L29 tended to pass, either when I'd headed home for tea or before I'd headed out for an evening's spotting. A further look through the images gallery for each loco in that batch (at that time, the class 47/4s only ran up to 47 555), on www.class47.co.uk, doesn't help much, either. There are very few images from the time when headcode panels were still in use. I did find one of 47 524 (that one, again!), in summer 1975, which showed evidence of similar damage to the panel between the headcode panel and the buffer beam (http://class47.co.uk/c47_zoom_v3.php?img=0696021373000) but I don't think that that is the loco in your picture, as the numbers don't look like 524.

6 hours ago, DaveF said:

Radcliffe on Trent on the Grantham to Nottingham line to start with today.  They were taken in 1975/6.

 

Radcliffe on Trent Class 20 20090 and ano Nottingham to Skegness The Jolly Fisherman Awayday Special Aug 75 C2293

FYI, David, the only report of 20 090 on 1E85 during August 1975 was Saturday 16th, when it was paired with 20 009 (courtesy of www.railgenarchive.co.uk  - although weekday entries are quite sparse from that time). The trailing loco looks as though it's green, which may narrow things down.

4 hours ago, DaveF said:

The Class 40 though was the celebrity member of the class which was never painted blue, at the time I took the photo it had recently been repainted.

Not quite, David. 40 122 (D200) did spend quite a period in blue but was repainted green when the class was run down, as the nominated loco for charters etc. The loco that escaped the blue paint was 40 106 (D306), which received a further coat of green paint in (IIRC) 1978, which it carried to withdrawal. Even in preservation, under ownership of the Bodens at the Great Central Railway and then Nene Valley Railway and, more recently, as part of the Class 40 Preservation Society fleet at the East Lancs Railway (currently based at the Severn Valley Railway), it has yet to operate in anger in its first coat of blue paint - although it is alleged that it received a blue repaint at Crewe Works in 1978, which was quickly reverted before it left the Works.

12 hours ago, corneliuslundie said:

And do they all still survive? I am not sure how much of the HST.

Surprisingly, most of the HSDT (as it was then termed - High Speed Diesel Train) survives. At least it did until the coming of the 800s and 801s and the disposal of many vehicles. One power car was broken up in 1990 (the former 41 002, subsequently numbered W43001) but the other survived, passing into the National Collection, whilst most of the trailers were converted to TFs or TSs and incorporated into production series trains, as the original 2+7 or 2+8 formations were lengthened. You could always spot one by the window surrounds.

What a fabulous quintet of photographs from Rotherham Masborough. The lighting on J5547 is exquisite and the snow on the remainder of the set brings back fond memories of such images during the 1970s and 1980s, a shame that they are such a rare occurrence these days.

Well, you learn something new every day! I had no idea that Sowerby Bridge had coal staithes.

I'm a bit behind this week but, looking at Wednesday's images, one thing that struck me was how ancient the motor vehicles in C12117 look, considering that it's a 1989 shot. My memory mis-remembers, thinking that we were much more modern by then. 😄

A fabulous batch of photographs from the High Dyke branch and Corby Glen. I always find that photographs from that area, particularly, have quite an emotional response - probably because it was 'home turf'. It brings back memories of Saturday or Sunday afternoon drives out, sitting by the railway, as a 10/11/12-year old, watching the trains going past, whilst the rest of the family went for a walk or otherwise occupied themselves. We didn't often venture as far up as Corby Glen, more often we'd be around Essendine, Lolham or Tallington.

I can understand how much you treasure your father's collection. I only have a few railway images that mine took (dad was more interested in aviation than railways) but they are very special. My avatar, in fact, is actually taken from one of my dad's pictures - although I was almost certainly with him that day, as a very small boy (we probably went as a result of my nagging to be taken to Tallington to watch the trains!).

C5239 - was that 40 063? Someone did kindly identify it, previously, up thread. One of the Haymarket seven (40 060 - 40 066) that was retrofitted with headcode panels in place of discs. IIRC there was only the one that was later fitted with a blanked over headcode panel, as shown.