Craig Watson

James and I will be there with West Pickering too.

Craig

Just need the Bachmann DBSO and Oxford Mk3's now!

have you got photos of your weathered version you could show us?

See post #93 just above!

My pre show example used to look like that!

 

I will have my weathered version on the Alloa demo stand and be happy to offer any advice if anyone is feeling brave! 

 

I have purposely not used an airbrush to demonstrate that anyone can easily weather from very light to this example which is how I remember the 47/7s.

 

Only an enamel wash and powders were used to keep it simple. 

 

D.

It looks good, all I've done with mine is fit the detail bits, change the driver and fit sound, it seemed to attract a bit of attention at Stafford!

Craig

On display at Stafford over the weekend.

Thanks to everyone at Stafford Railway Circle for inviting Bonnybridge down with Allanbridge, we had a great weekend with plenty of interest and lots of good comments about the layout.

We were packed and on the road for just before 18:00 and back home for 22:45, heading to the clubrooms tomorrow morning to unpack the van!

It was a great show, lots of good quality layouts, was pleased to hear Campbell's Quarry won the best in show, my son and I spent quite a bit of time watching it!

Thanks again

Craig

Craig

 

We will have the kettle on after your long journey.

 

Terry

Great to hear Terry, the van is loaded up and ready to go first thing in the morning, hopefully we'll avoid the M6 Friday afternoon car park!!

See you tomorrow!

The Bonnybridge lads are looking forward to exhibiting Allanbridge at its first exhibition south of the border, hopefully we'll see you there over the weekend.

Craig

Great memories and similar to my own. My Mum would take me up to the McLelland Galleries each year on the train, starting in '74.  Dad was at the show for the whole weekend as a founder member of Ayr MRG. Was alays a thrill going into the great hall, with the massive layouts of Eastwood Park & Renfrewshire MRC looking out for Ayr, and being 'lifted over the barrier'

 

A 6 year old me, Model Rail Scotland '74

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Ayr's first layout that you describe, was a huge hit. It had a hidden spiral which I think was quite novel back in the day, and people would be amazed as a train would disappear into the tunnel on the low level only to emerge on the upper deck.

 

A memory from that year that my Dad often retold, is that it was the time of the 3 day week and frequent power cuts. One such power cut happened bringing all layouts to a halt. My dad and a few others nipped out and got their car batteries, wired up the layouts and got trains running, with a hastily made sign saying Ayr's layout is still running. Looking back now as I write this, I wonder just how much of a urban myth that was for an impressionable young lad like me!.

 

 

Brilliant pic, before my time but one small legacy that still partly lives on albeit not at Model Rail Scotland are the "AMRSS standard" layout barriers, at one time a standard set of barrier drawings were produced so that member clubs could make their own with the idea being that multiple clubs could joins them up for bigger shows, I knew nothing of this as my first model rail was in the late 80's at the SECC until we managed to acquire some old ones from another club which we refurbished for our own club's use, eventually making more to the same design, they look just like the ones in the pic!

Craig

We're looking forward to attending the show with Allanbridge, now that the show guide has been pretty much put to bed at this end I can get on with some modelling, including the weathering of stock for Allanbridge's appearance at the show.

Craig

I think you'll find Craig 64B spent as much time on the 47/7's as the drivers if not more in the first few years and is quoting from his own memory not stories repeated from other forums.

No problem, for what its worth my post was not based on "stories repeated from other forums", both the drivers I quoted are friends and fellow members of my club, I'm a signalman myself, I wasn't aware 64B was a driver so apologies to him if any offence was caused.

The reason for driving from the number 2 end on push pull services, was that it was easier for the drivers to toggle the remote control switch for push pull mode - which was at the number 2 end, otherwise the drivers would walk to the other cab.  The number two end was also a lot quieter as well. 

Pretty much what I said in the post you quoted, our modelling group includes a few former E&G drivers who worked them and they said there wasn't much in it sound wise with the compressors and exhausters at the no 1 end and the turbocharger at the no 2, the main reason was the ease of having the changeover switch at the driving end.

I've modelled mine as driving from no 2 anyway, just need to change the stock Bachmann driver for a Pete Goss one and wait patiently for the stock to arrive!

I've had quite a few, sound wise they aren't as good as the top names obviously but they are good for the money. I haven't had any reliability problems yet but it seems that others have.

 

As mentioned they come with a 28mm round speaker which won't fit, I would suggest something like this because it fits in the space and sounds good.s379048454436072664_p77_i2_w2560.jpg

 

Richard

I fitted one of these in a vitrains 47 with a TTS decoder last night, a massive difference over the supplied speaker.

Craig

I'd heard that too, Craig, via SDEG. If I remember rightly, in a random selection of photos, the loco was the preferred way round around 70-80% of the time. Was noise not an issue too, with the no. 2 cab being quieter?

 

I believe this was often the case with 37s too, with the no. 2 end being preferred, so that when 37s were coupled together, the drivers preferred to have the no. 2 end of each loco outermost. 

 

Dave

Yeah, I asked the question on the SDEG page last week.

What fantastic site with images of 708 covering most of its career.

 

A great reference to detail and weather the model although I'm tempted to leave it reasonably clean.

 

Presume these locos went through the carriage wash with the stock and would therefore normally be pretty clean each side so its really bogies and roofs being the main area for weathering.

 

On detailing yes the jumper cables can be sorted and the Ariel if modelling post '88..thanks for that info..plus the tiny detail that most leave off including Bachmann..the plate on the drivers doors authorising 100mph Gla/Edi.

 

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Dave.

Dave,

One of the things I've done with mine was change the Bachmann driver to the no 2 end, I'd noticed that most pics of the push pulls showed that the no 1 (roof fans) end was coupled to the stock, we have a few drivers in SDEG so I asked the question and they confirmed that the no 1 end was normally (but occasionally not!) coupled to the stock due to the local/remote changeover switch being situated in the old boiler room at the no 2 end., I just popped the cab interiors out and swapped them around!

I've got one of the real yellow stickers that were inside the cab with the push pull speed restriction too, I'll need to dig it out and get a pic!

Craig

The Scottish Diesel and Electric Group and Bonnybridge Model Railway Club are pleased to announce the 2018 Bonnybridge Model Railway Exhibition.

14 layouts from our own members, around Scotland and just a wee bit beyond!, full trade support, demonstrations and displays and full cafe facilities.

Saturday April 28th 10:00-17:00

Sunday April 29th 10:00-16:00

Bonnybridge Community Education Centre

£5 Adult

£2.50 Child

£12 Family (2&2)

Layouts

Allanbridge - Bonnybridge MRC

Dalnottar Riverside - Graeme Moyes

Fife Cement - East Neuk MRC

Glenfinnan - Bill Wood

Hewisbridge - 57 Study Group

Kinlochewe - James Reid

Laurencekirk - Perth MRC

Lostcarne Junction - Pentland MRG

Micro Cement - Andy Strathie

North Road LMD - Bruce Duncan

Perceton - Ayr MRG

Rowntrees Sidings - Blyth & Tyne MRG

Tamshooglie - Falkirk MRC

West Pickering - Craig Watson

Demonstrations & Displays

Roland Turner

Tom Rintoul modelling display

Trade Support

Douglas Blades

Durham Trains of Stanley

The Junction Box

McLaren Models

North Road Trains

Scottish Garden Railways

Hopefully we'll see you there!

Craig

Thanks Chris, I'm pretty pleased with it!

Craig

I've actually got some time for modelling now that the guide is pretty much put to bed, so another couple of pics of our exclusive limited edition to whet the appetite, supplied etched nameplates, bogie and bufferbeam details fitted.

Craig

Another couple of pics of one of the first production models to whet the appetite, supplied nameplates, bufferbeam and bogie details added.

No to pre order we did that with the 08 and 1/3 did not collect at the show, so you live by the sword and all that .

Arran is correct, a lot of work went into the pre order facility for the 08 with around 1/3 then not fulfilling their order which our team members then spent a few weeks chasing up to see if those people still wanted the models, that put us off doing it again for this one.

Comprehensive detailing pack included but the 47/7s were from memory not fitted with the mini ploughs unless the odd one was for working the Highland lines.

 

With the pipework supplied the front end is highly detailed anyway and leaving the ploughs off certainly does not detract from this.

 

Dave.

Yeah, the ploughs are part of the standard detailing pack, they'll be put to use elsewhere!

Not the greatest of pics but as another one of our organising team vitalspark says above they're here, this particular one will be available for closer inspection at Bonnybridge MRC's "Allanbridge" layout at Stafford in a few weeks time.

It's been very nicely done indeed, full detail pack and etched nameplates included!

Craig

Not the greatest of pics but they're here and ready for release at the show, this is one of the production run and will be available for closer inspection at the Bonnybridge MRC layout "Allanbridge" at Stafford in a few weeks time.

Craig

And they're now part of the West Pickering fleet, both will be getting some weathering too.

Really pleased with them.

Cheers

Craig

We had a great time over the weekend with West Pickering, thought it was a really good show as usual, well done to Stephen and co!