calvin Streeting

ok just read back (your not a novice ) like the sweeping trackwork etc.. and i see embosed plastikard would be way to go as it would match more of the existing structures you have aka kits etc) and on that i see you built a simple will's kit shed, which is much the same as working in plastikard, only thing diferent is you need to make the desgin and make the bits of the kit  

I can also see you moked up where bridge is going (about half way between both ends, if i am right )  i could photo step by step when i make next building, but i am sure we can hlep with working out a simpleish brigde. and building your own structures is fun and very satifying as you get what you want, not what the kit will make  

hi... forund this today re: Scratch Building A Plate Girder Bridge, have a look and will find more latter (as brigde/tunnel moths are a good place to start with plasticard

well first thing is to sketch it out.. its all about propotions first, and most old victorian architceture uses a lot of the perfect rectangle (4,3) to get pleasing propotions , see https://www.google.com/search?q=perfect+rectangle+victorian+architecture&safe=off&rlz=1C1GCEB_enGB797GB797&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwia5rGyxKDgAhW-VRUIHUWzCVoQ_AUIDigB&biw=1280&bih=592#imgrc=bEERox6F90OVJM: 

the perfect rectangle is eveywhere in clasic architeture.

as example. once basic outline shape is worked out use carboad to mock it up, as eaay to play to get it right. (grab various phots from google, of bits you like etc.

and then its basicaly the art of layering material cut outs to get shadows in right place as shadow defines shape. and i use shallow layers for background, but more to scale for foreground to enhcnace the perspective. 

I use plasticard, or ply and airclay now, but started with carboard and paper ages ago.  but both work and both are fun  

but RE bridges look at the pad stones that support  main steel deck, they have either simple slip joints for girder to move as they expand. which meens the span can be a seperate structure, and look at the girders and thnk about how layers can make them. (i show a bit of this on my layout posts).

I could talk for ages about victorian architceture, as used to be a draftperson.  feel free to ask any q's 

be back soonish but going to backread this post  

whats your prefered form of consruction, card, or plastikard?

blimey finished (not painted).. from concept to built. the missing peice of tin from the roof, will be rusting on the bottom of the canal   and allows structure to be seen 

just need to work out brick colour etc.. ooh and a name to write down the chimney

Ok so 50% done, needs roof tiles, and rest of rusty tin roof canopy built, but now primed to find gaps that need filling, allways easy to see when one colour  

52 minutes ago, Portchullin Tatty said:

Aghh, but to be truly authentic it ought to have a half flat tyre.......

and a rusty hole in it

so lets see if this posting works  after the upgrade

Due to not being able to access this site i got on and started on one of the canal side warehouse.  going to be complex to put in place as want the watet (resin) to go under doors etc

The windows are avalible to download from here. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2252771

ooooooo like the new uploader  

hi..

My uncle "Norman Godden" used to work at Helston station during his school holidays at first and then latter full time, unfortulaty he is long gone (mutch loved childhood memories playing trains with him, while the rest of the family was doing family stuff), this would have been around 1950's and 60's have you got a source for any photo's from that time, as its also the line my mum took to school  

Many thanks

Off to golf, and its blowing a gale.

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Time for only one picture, but there are four locomotives in it.

hi.. nice model, can i ask a Q about the telegraph poles, as they pass over the station are the poles mounted to station roof, or are they heading to a derrick ? I have a simular sitiation where the proposed pole lines cross main station canopy

Today i managed to get the old forge petrol tank in (main item is 3d printed https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3388709, like the petrol pump yet to be painted, and signs need adding but got them the right colour to blend in not stand out and distract from all that.) the pipes are mains cable with bits of insulator placed at points to represent vent, gauge, in and out pipes.

Also got more barbed wire fencing in place slow going that stuff (easyer and quicker in real life). and must start building those warehouses. but think i have the perspective nearly right not 100% yet 

So feet up lights on daylight simulation as i do like the view from my study desk you can see some of those stratigic views through trees.. etc

Hi All

Not as much progress as i hoped (mainly to illness at weekend) so i spent some time drawing up new buldings for canal yard.

This area is over end loop of track and will be cobbled roadway with yard track bedded in. I want it to be working track but with very tight curves (typical yard style) for 0-4-0 shunters etc (hence asking about custom hand built track)... ,it will be feed from main line by a incline, through a gated entrance.So we need

1. A Yard Office

2. Canal warehouses

3. an old pub (yard workers need a drink) called something like the "Queen Anne" to show its age

These buildings need to either respect the canal, or the railway, or niether as older than both. and i dont like things 100% square. but i thought i would outline the prosses i use so far

1. Basic hand draw skecthes to get proportion's and feel correct (alot of use of the goldern rectangle, for that pleaseeing look)

2. Drawn in AutoCAD to respect the proportion's but to get them to the correct scale

3. print out and stick to foam board a mock up and correct as needed by studying photos (which i sketch over, love galaxy note phone)

then drawup windows and other bits needed in 3d to print.. (thats what i am now doing) and next will be using printed cad templates to cut plastikard, but not 100% as not square 100 year old thing lean slightly, like i do.. and i not 100 yet

on that.. how hard is building points etc ?.. (oo scale) as never done it but might want to for part of my layout, and i love the sweeping curves and flow they make

For Balast i use watered down copydex and a little fairy liquid.. using a syringe (like pipet) to place drops between sleepers onto pre placed ballast (about 1 or 2 passes), takes ages but sometimes thats plesent

Not sure on durability over time yet, but ok so far, and i use that because i use foam track bed, and PVA would hardern it and thus loose the sound deadening benifits.

p.s nice model...

Hi

I was out and about (happens every now and then when allowed ) and i when i walked past this cutting in maidstone, it reminded me of yours. there is a lot going on down there, alot of old disused and disgarded stuff, so many different materials  in the wall and even a bunch of pipe runs under the foliage ontop of the left wall..   

edit: helps if i actually hit attach file button  

Now there's a challenge - interlocking the signals and controllers with the lifting section. I'm sure the life-sized railway must do it, otherwise the Norfolk Broads would be unnavigable due to sunken DMUs.

simplest method is a section of track before / after that is dead when bridge is lifted.. no fancy stuff.. microswitches should do

This weekend i managed to put lights into end warehouse, (not wired up yet tho) and also built the old retaingwall near the pump house. Its simple low relif work as it faces corner of room at the back and to be honest might not even be scene (unless i put a camera on a train, theres an idea ) 

As you can see from the first photo alot here is a lie to trick the perspective and lead people to think the line goes straight on. the next lie will be the coach shed that will end and the track carry on under a upper canal wharf and buildings. 

I must add more dirt as the warehouse looks a bit patchy and might lightern up the brick a bit, once checked with the rest in daylight.

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so we finaly reach today and to celebrate now Comes some DIRTY pics..

As we paint and get filthy all of that stone work back to the briges and add the dirt and sand, grass and some brables to this section.

I hope you have enjoyed this story so far as you can see i still have a long way to go, so there should be more posts latter but not so oftern the plan is do other end and meet in middle and finish that canopy but first canal

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My we are gettng close to today

Next part was to get the station wall in (you will see what i meen) this ment finishing the lower retaining wall, building a culvert under lower main line, and iron bridge bits (to span it). i also added another light siganl for aproach to platfrom 7, this had been bolted with no care to side of old wall (old meets new) and then as this is boggy ground i drew and printed some suspended concrete cable troughs. and started to mock up the wall, draw, print and glue paint the windows. (rember these ones are two sided) then plasticard each section of the wall built upon the old wall after they removed the pier tops. and to add insult to injury when latter lower platfroms 7 and 8 went in the canopy would meen i brick up the lower part of windows and extend hight of wall at end, also cut open one window for latter footbridge etc.

All of this needed to be done so i could air clay and paint the platforms and then finaly glue station bulding in place. phew... 

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and test station kisok and platrom master box ideas

Now lets go back and talk electronics control etc for a bit

The final resting place for all the wires (altot of them) is here were we have a Raspberry PI 3 running rocrail, conected to a PR3 and banks of locoIO's for (mid) block detection, (Right) for the lighting circuits with mosfet switches and room to expand, and has done a bit since the photo, incuding adding the servo control boards for turnouts.

Another thing you might have noticed is the colour of the light in the room keeps chaging, (not photoshop ) thats becuase the room has 3 Philips Hue Bulbs that change with the model (scale) time, using a python scriipt it simply uses a 1 x 24 pixal image and grabs the RGB for the time and one for hour before and one for hour after so the sun rises and passes over head and sets. part of this layout idea was to create a thing to sit and watch, which i do do and days (scaled) pass by with shops opening in morning and pub open late, etc.. an distance plafform anocment mumbles, the signal changes, guard whistles and train departs.  

to show some of this here is a few sample images

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If you want more info on any of that tech stuff i lightly touched let me know  

Now thats done. i worked toward getting the station building completed. and this ment drawing the interoirs (same way as the cafe, printed on card and slide in from top, and roof glued on.) and i also drew and printed some book cases benches desks, fileing cabnets, ticket machines etc.. ) and then lights 5 seperate circuits for lights. the outside lamps were printed and not trying to hide the wires, but paint them to look like the gas pipes adds some detail. and once building was completed i stated on the pavement  using same method as roads, but a few things to note.

1. this is a cobbled old entrance

2. the older curved station wall now porped up (and a low level bilboard will latter go there)

3. and this is not the first station building, its been shoe hornd in but creates a lovely little film noir sence with the steps down from road level.

Calvin Streeting

ooo and went to Venice  

So the area between Coach House, Forge and railway is an old cut. and i wanted some certain features.

1. The road that heads down the hill past coach house should be simply cut of (and remlents of it on other side of line, can be seen in first photo) 

2  A water tower that feeds most if not all of the station needs, from locos, to station heating. This needs to match the origanl retainwall and bridge style, but be butcherd a bit by modern alterations. also note this water tower is fed from the stream by the sluce gates, and will need its own, and thus i need run off pipes, also i do not want to put a roof on it so i can play with resin water, before i get to the stream, and harbour.

So out came the pencil, and then CAD I came up with this, parts like the top of piers use same stone work as the main wall, I also put part of the lower older platform in, and that will be part built over in time. also i blocked up one window, so i can drop more smaller pipes across the wall toward the station building.

I ask a frind whats in side these things and he described to me one from bluebell hill (double ball valve and water level guage, all added).

Windows and featurs printed but with the main building in 1mm plastikard face with embosed stone. primed, filled, painted, dirt will come latter as the hole thing needs to be done in one go as i need several layers of dirt across a long section. (but have put a final with dirt photo as we are nearish end/today)

Calvin Streeting

Oh and i could print telegraph poles.

and this is were i will point out that most (if not all) of my models are avalible to download from https://www.thingiverse.com/calvinstreeting/about (i waited as wanted to get past this point before i linked the two sites.

Now lets go back into town, and start with roads and pavements, First wills paving is cut into thin strips for the kerbs and glued this stuf can be bent sloly to form the cuves, i then check the sight lines with a camra.. note the way very few building respect the road line as they where there first   the curbs ar also sanded to get the drop kerbs. Pavemnt is then add using same wills paving.

then with a jar of watter at hand i roll a thin 1mm thick strip (about 30mm wide). Paint PVA on road and smothed it toward the kerb to get the camber (a finger dipped in water helps to smoth it) and defects/bumps dosn't matter to much as pot hols etc and this is a old road. and a base coat of various grays (mixed buff and black, not white and black, to get warmer colour).

then as the retaining wall slowy heads south, bay by bay. i started working on the section between the fordge and railway, aka geting older braket signal postion visually right and all that pointed out is that i need some / lots of telegraph poles.. (so started learning about them, more latter)

I also designed, and printed a test platform canopy end and some lineside boxes.

Calvin Streeting

Wow! The monastery looks excellent and really sets the corner.

 

The rest is simply stunning!

Thanks yep it does i missed this photo on last post i like houses in background slowly climbing the hill

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this ment i could now dirt, snad, and grass the next quater of the loops. from road down to harbour.

I added a some bard wire fencing (made from cut down match sticks and 1 wire cut from the wire mesh i have. and built a stlye for one foot path from match sticks and coffe stir things  One think to note/see is the stone walls respect the Monistory, and also form strip plots of land that would have gone down to sea, before the railway came, hence barb wire where railway cuts and stone else where. You will even see the road down the side of Coach House and Forge is also cut by railway.

and also added some old chain, and some wool for old rope  and as one tunnel mouth sliped when drying i drew, printed some wooden braces (maby it just subsided)

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not much more to go (only 6 months to catch up ish) now  and wish it read rotation of images