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Buhar, Still trying to edit the spelling mistakes out actually, as you posted your comment ! Not as far as I'm aware with the Long Radius code 75 points. There were certainly issues with the old code 100 type. 71000

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Jack. As mentioned by "Ray70B" the numbers seen on the headcode discs of Southern locos, were the Loco Duty numbers. I'm not sure if you have picked a line to model or even a specific shed. However the following may be of use, as each specific number was normally on a specific type of locomotive, baring the loco failing. In which case the number and the disc it was stuck too would probably have been transfered to the loco replacing the failure. The reason for these numbers was because the locos duty throughout the day, would mean it being manned often by more than one crew. So especially on busy Summer Saturdays, a crew waiting to relieve a train, could ensure they were relieving the right one, by the duty number stuck to one of the discs. The numbers were normally printed on paper, and stuck to the disc. But you could often see these numbers slapped on in grease, scratched on in coal dust, even sometimes upsidedown ! I have tried to select Duties for a range of locos that you already have models for, working from various sheds. Obviously as my records only go back to around 1954, as my layout Basingstoke is based on the era 1958-67. I have used the earliest Engine Working Notices I have, which probably had not changed much since your chosen era. Examples taken from South Western Division BR Engine Working Noticies (EWN) 1954-58. Duty No 3 Nine Elms shed Mon-Fri for a WC/BB 7P 4-6-2 02.25 Nine Elms shed - Waterloo (Light Loco) 02.55 Waterloo - Bournemouth Central (Newspapers, Parcels and Passenger) 06.10 Bournemouth Central - Bournemouth West (Light Loco) 08.14 Bournemouth West - Waterloo 11.45 Waterloo - Clapham Junction (Vans) 12.05 Clapahm - Nine Elms shed (Light Loco) 15.42 Nine Elms shed - Waterloo (Light Loco) 16.22 Waterloo - Bournemouth West 20.10 Bournemouth West - Nine Elms shed (Light Loco) arr 00.15. Duty No 6 Nine Elms shed Mon-Fri for a Merchant Navy 8P 4-6-2. 10.27 Nine Elms shed - Waterloo (Light Loco) 11.00 Waterloo - Exeter Central 14.08 Exeter Central - Exmouth Junction shed 18.23 Exmouth Junction shed - Exeter Central 18.48 Exeter Central - Clapham Junction Up Main Loop (Royal Mail) 01.30 Clapham Up Main loop - Waterloo (Empty Mail Vans) 01.55 Waterloo - Nine Elms shed (Light Loco) Duty No 22 Nine Elms shed Mon-Fri for a Schools class 5P 4-4-0 04.03 Nine Elms shed - Waterloo (Light Loco) 04.45 Waterloo - Salisbury 09.21 Salisbury - Templecombe 11.20 Templecombe - Yeovil Junction 12.35 Yeovil Junction - Yeovil Town To Yeovil Town shed 13.05-14.40 14.40 Yeovil shed to Yeovilk Junction (Light Loco) 14.55 Yeovil Junction - Salisbury (13.10 ex Exeter train) 16.40 Salisbury - West Sidings (ECS) 17.00 West Sidings - Salisbury (ECS) 17.15 Salisbury - Waterloo 21.02 Waterloo - Clapham Yard (ECS) 21.20 Clapham Yard - Nine Elms (Light Loco) Duty No 103 Feltham shed Tues-Fri for a S15 6F 4-6-0 04.07 Feltham Yard - Eastleigh Yard (Freight) To Eastleigh shed 07.45- 09.15 09.43 Eastleigh Yard to Southampton Docks (Freight) 13.25 Southampton Docks - Feltham Yard To Feltham shed 18.00 - 22.15 22.45 Feltham Yard - Eastleigh Yard To Eastleigh shed 02.55. Stabled for Duty 104. Duty No 125 Feltham shed Mon-Fri for a Q1 5F 0-6-0 03.45 Feltham shed - Feltham Yard 04.15 Feltham Yard - Nine Elms Goods (Freight) 05.15 Nine Elms Goods - Clapham Yard (Light Loco) 07.22 Clapham Yard - Waterloo (Empty Coaching Stock) 08.43 Waterloo - Nine Elms Shed (Light Loco) 10.30 Nine Elms Loco - Nine Elms Goods (Light Loco) 11.00 Nine Elms Goods - Feltham Yard (Freight) 12.57 Feltham Yard - Brent No2 Yard London Midland Region (Freight) 15.10 Brent No2 Yard - Feltham Yard (Freight) To Feltham shed 17.00 Duty No 231 Basingstoke shed Mon-Sat for a N15 Class 5P 4-6-0. Mon-Fri 12.02 Basingstoke - Waterloo - Basingstoke Sat 12.12 Basingstoke-Waterloo-Salisbury. Loco returned to Basingstoke on a Sun Salisbury job. Duty No 232 Basingstoke shed Mon-Sat for an N15 King Arthur class 5P 4-6-0 . 08.25 Basingstoke -Waterloo 19.39 Waterloo to Basingstoke. Duty No 242 Basingstoke shed Mon-Sat for a 700 Class "Black Motor" 3F 0-6-0 (Freight) 05.30 Basingstoke - Bulford Shunt at Bulford 08.55-12.15 Bulford - Amesbury 16.35 Amesbury - Basingstoke Duty No 248 Andover shed Sat for a T9 3P 4-4-0 06.20 Andover Junction - Southampton Terminus. 08.33 Southampton Terminus - Andover Junction 11.20 Andover Junction - Eastleigh 13.12 Easteligh - Portsmouth and Southsea 14.20 To Fratton shed 15.55 Light Loco to Fareham 17.11 Fareham - Portsmouth and Southsea 18.45 Portsmouth and Southsea - Southampton Central 20.10 Southampton Central - Bournemouth West 22.18 Bournemouth West - Eastleigh shed Light Loco 1958 Duty No 270 Eastlegh shed Mon-Fri for a 4P5F N class 2-6-0 02.30 Easteligh shed - Eastleigh Yard 03.10 Eastleigh Yard - Southampton Docks (Freight) 04.35 Southampton Docks - Southampton Terminus (Light Loco) 05.47 Southampton Terminus - Totton 06.28 Totton - Newbury (via DN&S) 08.28 Newbury - Reading General 09.10 Reading General - Reading (WR) shed. 15.50 Reading shed - Reading General 16.05 Reading General - Didcot 17.55 Didcot - Newbury 19.25 Newbury - Easteligh 20.40 Eastleigh Stn - Eastleigh loco. Duty No 381 Bournemouth shed Mon-Fri for a Merchant Navy 8P 4-6-2 08.59 Bournemouth - Weymouth 13.25 Weymouth - Waterloo 19.30 Waterloo - Bournemouth West Duty No 392 Bournemouth shed Mon-Fri for a West Country/Battle of Britain 7P 4-6-2. 08.25 Light loco to Bournemouth West 09.22 Bournemouth West - Waterloo 15.20 Waterloo - Weymouth 21.18 Weymouth - Bournemouth Central Duty No 393 Bournemouth shed Mon-Fri for a Lord Nelson 7P 4-6-0 06.22 Bournemouth - Basingstoke 11.10 Basingstoke - Waterloo 15.30 Waterloo - Bournemouth Central 19.17 Bournemouth Central - Weymouth Stabled Weymouth shed for Sat Duty No 400 Duty 416 Bournemouth shed Mon-Fri for a M7 2P 0-4-4T 05.20 Light loco to Wimborne 06.45 Wimborne - Bournemouth West 08.10 Bournemouth West - Brockenhurst 09.39 Brockenhurst - Lymington Pier 10.34 Lymington Pier - Brockenhurst 11.04 Brockenhurst - Bournemouth Central 13.50 Light Loco to Bournemouth West 14.30 Bournemouth West - Brockenhurst (via Castlemaines Corkscrew) 16.10 Brockenhurst - Bournemouth West (via Castlemaines Corkscrew) 19.08 Bournemouth West - Brockenhurst (via Castlemaines Corkscrew) 20.56 Brockenhurst - Bournemouth West (via Castlemaines Corkscrew) 22.23 Bournemouth West to shed. Duty 423 Bournemouth shed Mon-Fri for a Q class 4F 0-6-0 05.20 Light loco Bournemouth shed to Poole. 06.09 Poole to Swanage (Freight) 08.35-09.15 shunt at Swanage 10.55 Swanage - Wareham (Freight) 13.16 Wareham - Corfe Castle (Freight) 15.08 Corfe Castle - Bournemouth Central Goods (Freight) Retire to shed 20.30 Courtesy 71000

Mike, You are most welcome. Just send me a message via the RM "messenger" as and when you plan comig to visit. Then I can try and be present to give you a guided tour, and we can include a trip to the Model layout workshop if you are interested.

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Jack, Yep been down this road with a least one of my KA's. The wire you are using between loco and tender, may prove a bit too thick, and resistant to movement in curves. Which may result in tender derailments. I avoid retail outlets for electrical products (too expensive), and head for a Commercial outlet (in Britain City Electrical Factors). For much of my layout wiring and such jobs as you are doing here. I use "Burglar alarm cable" which is the same size as telephone cable. But is multi-stranded so stronger, unlike telephone cable which is "Hard drawn" (one strand) and has a nasty habit of breaking inside its cover so you can never pinpoint the break. I can get a 100 metre roll of Burglar Alarm cable with 12 wires inside, each in a different colour, so 1200 metres (1.2Km) of wire in total, for about £35GBP. Not sure about NZ, but I would imagine electricians don't buy there wire and electrical goods in retail outlets ! The other problem with these tenders is that for some daft reason, the wires to the bogies are expected to both pass through one hole to one side of the bogie pivot. This resists the bogie turning and on more than one of my locos I found one wire was broken before I even got the loco home. I therefore drill a second hole the other side of the bogie pivot, so each wire can go directly to the pick up plate directly below the hole. This greatly reduces the drag on the bogie when it is trying to turn, so reducing cable movement, which in turn, reduces the wiggling effect at the solder joint, which sooner or later would otherwise break ! 71000

"Buhar" Thankyou for your comments. Uh, well, yes, I am under a bit of pressure. I told the Museum boss, "basically it should take two years to build". So he persuaded the Mayor to lend me an Industrial unit for two years. So I've got until around January 2019, to get the baseboards built, track laid, wired and hopefully a start on the scenery. I had thought, I might get some Spanish to help. But it transpires, although they are willing, they haven't a clue how to even hold a saw. The boss then suggested I train them to build a Spanish HO layout. So I have that job in hand as well. So I am just hoping it all pans out in the end...... A last ditty. A BR Traction Inspector once said to me, as I was driving an EMU around the nasty sharp bends approaching Waterloo. "Every degree of curvature (in the track) requires an increase of power by the square root to negotiate the bend." As this physical law applies equally to a model as it does the real thing. You can then understand why even a large steam loco model may have insufficient power to haul 10 coaches around clip together type curves. Such stresses will of course reduce the life expectantcy of the motor. Hence my reluctance to use anything less than 5ft radius. 71000

Tony Thankyou very much for your comments. It is a bit of a mammoth task, and I just posted on Jack. P's thread, that I really need him to emmigrate to Spain, so he can apply his wonderful weathering skills to some of my mass of stock.... 71000

Jack, Thanks for the comments (on my page Basingstoke). Yes lots of coaches. However with so many of them, I need you to migrate to Spain. So you can practice your skills of weathering on them. By the way I do like the Bachmann Lord Nelson you have done very nicely... I also note you have received your "Gate stock" in NZ, but mine haven't yet arrived in Spain. Have to go an harass the local Spanish Post Office in the morning I think. Mind you as you've got some good pictures of them already in pieces, I'm studying those pics closely..... Keep up the good work, shame we are at opposite ends of the planet........ Yours Identity crisis Avengers (71000)