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Anyway, you chaps don't come on here to read about silly games involving dirty balls and such like, so here is another train approaching from the North, where it is very sunny.
Gilbert,
I may be wrong, but that looks like 60048 DONCASTER.
Stuart
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Another front view of the Pullman this morning, as I was still checking out the effect of the black paint on the lamps.
I've also done a few more close ups on buildings, so here is another of those.
A bit of bedding in still to be done.
Gilbert,
Might I suggest grey or silver instead of black on those lamps. To me, the black seems a bit too "heavy".
Stuart
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The Stanier tank now departs and will head for the Midland lines the other side of Spital Bridge, while the loco for the Down Glasgow patiently waits.
The next sighting though is on the Up, as the 1000am Up Leeds comes onto view. This was a lodging turn for a 34A crew, who had taken Gannet to the West Riding the previous day on the Yorkshire Pullman.
Time for a cup of tea. Elevenses.
Gilbert,
Since when did King's Cross turn out A4s in that condition ?
Stuart
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Hi Gilbert,
Did you not see my pm regarding fixing loco lamps ?
Black Tac is the stuff to use. It's like Blu Tac but much stronger, and being black, will not show if a small amount should squeeze out from underneath the lamp. You only need a "pin head" amount and it really does stick. It is used by photographers for fixing items whilst photoing them, and can easily be removed for reuse.
Regards,
Stuart
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Gilbert,
Must say, I like the pics of the PUllmans, BUT, from the looks of it, there is a very pronounced camber change just where the first and second cars appear in the "Queen of Scots" photo. Hope nobody was just haing a plate of soup at that moment !
Stuart
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Hi Gilbert,
Thanks for those views of Victor Wild. A3s as they should look - single chimney, no smoke deflectors, and a lovely GN tender. Beautiful !!!!!!
Reminds me of my youth. There were even some blue ones then as well !!!!!!!
Keep up the good work !!!
Stuart
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A couple more this morning, starting with a different angle on the N5.
and then focusing on a nice clean B17, waiting in the bay to take over the Glasgow- Colchester, which is due shortly. For some reason the Up train does not appear in my official formations book, so I'm going to have to guess at the stock.
Hi Gilbert,
I guess that having poles coming out of chimneys is now out of fashion, so you've done a great alternative - nameplate hiddden behind a trolley load of parcels.
Makes a nice change !!
Stuart
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Gilbert,
Bet you didn't know how much space you have !!!!
Now, do you remember where you have put everything ???
Stuart
Germany
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And so today we have sun and warmth, but no golf. The camera has been pointed, and the results are encouraging, but have not yet been tidied up. It is strange, but some days a whole shoot produces uninspiring results, while on another everything seems to come out well. I was about to delete the rest of the last lot, which were very uninspiring, when I realised that people might want to record the number of the A1, so here it is.
That young lad's head is in the way of the cabside number - Coachmann wouldn't like that - but you can see the name OK. Of course there is also something growing out of the chimney as usual. Not photoshopped, too idle.
Gilbert,
Neither do I !!!
Stuart
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Having had a good whinge, it is time for some more pictures. We shall start with another view of 60050 as she runs in from the North. I discovered that she has a missing lamp iron, and so was ideal for a little experiment. One lamp is placed where the iron should be, and the other in front of the existing one. Does it really make any difference in your opinion please?
The DMU is about to leave for Grimsby, the two signals on the platforms which I so carefully straightened are to be congratulated on moving again while my back was turned, and it would be churlish of me not to acknowledge the skill and ingenuity shown by Paint.Net in slyly removing bits of locos and people while I'm working on totally different parts of the photo.
Running behind the express was this 9F hauled goods, with yet another fireman who doesn't know the correct position of lamps on a Class F working. This photo was taken before I was kindly reminded yet again.
The train is about to run onto the Up slow, which I don't think I've shown before. Only very heavy cropping makes this at all worth looking at. Bedding in the buffer stop is on the to do list.
Gilbert,
From this head on view, it is extremely difficult to find a difference in the positions of the lamps. My personal view is that they are so much nearer to being the correct size, that any other comment is invalid. They look just super !!!!
Stuart
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A couple more images this morning, before going out to get very cold.
One more of the J50, now nearly able to get off the Up main and into the yards.
And just to show that I do try to cater for all tastes, here is the big green shiny thing which was the reason for its haste. The driver, who of course can't be seen, is yelling insults at the signalman in North box, as he has been held for a couple of minutes at Westwood because some ***** allowed a ******* trip working to go through in front of him. I suspect he may be shouting at the wrong man, as I doubt North box was responsible, but hey, if the right person isn't available to be shouted at, just pick on the closest available.
These North end views may have to be postponed for a while, as they are getting far too time consuming. The problem I think is that the sun is still at an angle which means it shines directly in, and it is creating background colours which are as good as identical to the roofs of buildings, and the side of the water tower. I've had to bin a couple, as my hand just isn't steady enough to do ruler straight lines by hand, and if you look closely, which I hope you won't, there are some very dodgy ragged edges on these two.
Hermit, by the way, to save you looking up 60109, and the train is the 1230 Doncaster- KX semi fast. And it has the nice new small lamps.
Gilbert,
Please can you refresh my knowledge. What/which are those new lamps on Hermit ? Certainly a big improvement, or should I say small !!!!
Stuart
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Fifteen hours without water now, and the estimated time for it to come back on just keeps getting put back. And so to bed without a shower all day, and not even able to brush my teeth. We shall have another picture anyway.
The 1230pm KX- Newcastle heads North behind a Grantham A3, while a K3 is held at signals with a Colwick- KX Goods Class F. There was a very tight margin between this goods train and the preceding Up Newcastle, which had stopped at Platform 2, so I reckon this happened quite often. I doubt the goods would have been sent round the Up slow and allowed to cross in front of the express. Photos of what is behind the tenders of both locos to follow tomorrow.
AND, I have water.
Good Morning Gilbert,
You will be in trouble from the Spotters' Union !!!! Neither that A3 nor the K3 can be identified. in the picture in 10315. You'll have to do better than that.
Gresley
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Presumably they are shown in ex works condition Stuart. It's what Hornby have always done with pullman cars. Better than the silver roofs they originally did , but the weathering paints will have to be employed before they get on PN.
Hi Gilbert,
I only have plated side vehicles, and they all have dark grey roofs. As far as I know, the wooden bodied ones all have white roofs, so this is a departure for Hornby.
I agree, it means the paint job for the roofs if they are to look realistic, certainly for the ECML formations..
I have one of the old,old,old ones with a silver roof. It is lost somewhere in the "underworld" beneath the layout !!!
Stuart
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Hi Gilbert,
Good news about the new Hornby Pullmans, but why do they have to have white roofs ? All my pics of them during the BR period show black/dirty roofs/dark grey kin kdeeping with other coaching stock.
Stuart
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When did the Tees-Tyne Pullman ever run from Liverpool St.?
Even more worrying - this is the NRM's site!
. . . . and since when did it only run to Darlington ???
Stuart
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Good point Phil. There are so many things that would be needed to complete the scene. Not just the sound of trains, but, for example...." The next train to arrive at Platform 3 will be the 1026 to Leeds, calling at Grantham, Newark, Retford......" I'm sure that could be done, using tape recordings, but imagine the time it would take to do it for the whole of my sequence. Perhaps I just need " We apologise for the late arrival of....... owing to the idiot with the controller setting the wrong road.....again".
I can iimagine the station announcements, but the sound of a train passing through? More difficult. I still want my wheezing clanking WD though.
Hi Gilbert,
Having experienced model railway "sound" I would most definitely NOT recommend it. However, I have a much more authentic solution. Transacord EPs and LPs, even recorded atPeterboro' .
Stuart
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Has Hornby ever done a LNER apple green A4, even with a tender drive? If so what and when?
Were the Bachmann A4s tender drive? I know they did Golden Eagle in LNER green. Were all the A4s built in Doncaster?
Yes, all A4s were built at Doncaster.
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Whilst on this topic, but off at a tangent, couldn't Hornby see their way to producing more A3 locos with GN tenders ? Again, the majority of these locos were so fitted.
gresley
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Might I suggest to both Hornby and Locomotion, that they seriously consider producing A4s, with and without side valances, in various liveries, with and without corridor tenders - BUT with single chimneys.
We have untold models in BR Green and LNER liveries, most of which have double chimneys. Up until 1957 there were only FOUR locos so fitted.
That would be more realistic for the majority of A4 fans, and I'm sure would improve sales figures.
gresley
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I bet Larry was driving that bus, and he caused the traffic jam by stopping to watch the train go by!
Just like him . . . Never mind the passengers, just see those trains !!!! After all, Greenfield couldn't compare to Peterboro'.
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I agree about the over-sized loco lamps and how much better they look after a wash-over with dirty thinners. Why the BR-style lamps should be so much over-scale than the LNER-style ones I don't know, but they do catch the eye too much. Taking off the handles of the BR ones would be a good idea. All that said, if you get the opportunity to look at the latest British Railways Illustrated (sorry for the plug), there's a picture of a 'Hall' on page 159 leaving Chester on an express, with one of the lamps either new or freshly-painted. Though both the same size, the white one looks 'huge' in comparison, much nearer the apparent size of some of Gilbert's lamps. But, and I think this will do the trick, the handle is almost invisible. Similarly, on page 160 a BR Standard Four displays a light-engine BR lamp and that too looks big, but the handle is nowhere near as prominent. Other pictures illustrating my piece show locos carrying no lamps, grubby lamps or ex-LMS ones, which were black. So, I'm not so sure if all the lamps displayed on Peterborough North are too big, especially the non-BR ones - just wash them over with dirty thinners.
At least the locos display lamps, which is better than none at all.
Though this is a Peterborough North thread, I hope GN won't mind my posting model scenes just a few miles north. I've included these to show how weathering Smith's lamps can make a huge improvement in their appearance. Even the over-scale BR lamps on 60125 look better (incidentally, I can find precious few pictures of ER locos carrying BR lamps), but they are still way too big. Taking off the handles should help, however.
The last picture is just a sign of the times for all on RMWeb.
Looking forward to seeing more progress on PN in the New Year.
For anyone interested, I have loco lamps from the 3mm Society. I did take a couple of pics showing the front end of an A4 with one 4mm lamp and one 3mm lamp for comparison
If the pic is wanted, please let me know.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all.
Stuart May, Germany
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The silence is deafening. Maybe he's been sidetracked to give assistance to Santa's delivery system.
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PS: BTW Mr Tetleys, my coach-related response to you appears brusque in hind sight - and anonymous, too. Didn't mean it to be. Lack of sleep, probably. Sorry. ;-)
I'm a retired copper so I've been insulted by experts but don't worry I didn't read any negatives about my own response on the coach theme.
Returning to P. North, I know Gilbert's feelings about figures on model railways but like his choice of vehicles on the station forecourt the layout is enhanced by the addition of figures and vehicles, no matter how accurate the locos and trains it would look flat and contrived if there wasn't a representation of both. And whilst I have the pleasure of seeing the layout in the flesh so to speak other members only see frozen in time photographs so even figures modelled as moving (and I wouldn't use the Dapol running man again)are frozen as is a loco supposed to be hauling a moving train. I cannot recall the manufacturer but there is a collection of footplate staff, guards and station staff produce in white metal that are really good being full bodied without oversize heads and with correct clothing and poses, OK they are not as cheap per head as say Dapol figures but to populate footplates or enhance a station scene they are worth every penny.
I'm sorry but I cannot zoom in on the figure but check out the railway man just behind the small Ford Thames 5cwt van it is from the range of figures I refer to, what is wrong with this guy, great pose, authentic clothes and as near perfect proportions as makes no difference? I'm too lazy / tired to dig out other examples and photograph them and we don't want to get bogged down although it does give Gilbert time to pose and photograph more trains.
Human Resources Manager of Ancaster
Hello Dave,
I have just enlarged the photo and the chap referred to does in fact look exactly right, both in his posture and his attire. Takes me back to the early 50s !!!
Stuart (Germany)
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I agree. Obviously a change of identity. What was the donor loco ?
Stuart
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Gilbert,
Very thoughtful of you to produce the D11, but it might have looked a bit nicer if the cleaners had done a "brush up" on it first. You really must get a grip of those boys.
Mind you, even Faringdon is getting slightly travel stained. !!
Thanks anyway,
Stuart