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That's very helpful, thank you! I think I'm right in saying the following would have been worn during both GW and WR liveries, does anyone know when this was added? XP WB 16'-0" 20-0 I'm currently working from the notes on gwr.org.uk and A History of GWR Goods Wagons Vol. 2, so any further advise on sources of information would be welcome. Thanks again!

Thank you! Thanks for confirming, I found the 3" high information here while researching, I'll admit it was new for me too. http://www.gwr.org.uk/liverieswagongrey.html As an AA21, I think in BR days it would also have worn: XP WB 16'-0" 24-0 Even though I was under the impression 'XP' was for stock less than 15' I was under the impression AA21s carried this, and I think '24-0' refers to the van length. Again, if this could be confirmed to be right or wrong that would be very helpful, and if under BR ownership there was anything else worn, or times when some of this information was not painted on would be great. Thanks again for the assistance to far!

Hi there, I am planning an AA21 toad model and I'd like to check the lettering I'm planning is correct, as far as I understand the Great Western/Wester Region lettering would have been as follows: In GW days it would have worn the small 5" GW letters above the running number (17xxx) and the weight '20T' , as it was built too later to wear the larger 25" and 16" lettering. It also missed the '20 Tons' italic font. I think the depot name would be on the side in 5" letters and up until 1943 would have worn a white 'S' below this name. Can anyone confirm this? It seems in 1942 if a van was repainted the GW and running number would have been reduced to 3" high. In about 1943 if the van was used on specific duties it may have gained the 'R.U.' (Restricted User) markings. Upon entering BR ownership it would have been repainted bauxite as it is vacuum fitted, and around 1952 toads were labelled 'Not In Common Use', and so could not leave the Western Region. Any clarifications or corrections would be very welcome! Thanks.

Morning all, I know there isn't much to go on here, but does anyone recognise if this painting of an auto tank is based on a real place? It's by Peter Edwards and used for one of the 'Railway Series' books. I've been using some of his illustrations of Western engines and de-facing them (if that's the right word!) with the idea of making some tourist posters for my layout. I believe most of his paintings of 1400s were based on 1420 at the Dart Valley, I've not visited for years, I thought this may be the double track section just west of Staverton where 1420 would have been based at the time of the illustration, around 1966. Of course, it could be based on a postcard of newspaper clipping which would be much harder to track down, but thought I'd open it up to you guys to see if you can help out! Thanks

Morning! I was wondering if there was ever a speed restriction rule about tender first running on goods services. It seems that at the moment there is a 45mph limit on heritage passenger trains, but I can't find anything concrete on what restrictions there would have been on other sorts of services back in the 60s. Any help would be very much appreciated! Thanks

Hi all, I've just ordered both volumes of the Stretton Dean Forest Railway books, but have come across the Forest Venturer magazine that seems to have been released quarterly in the 1970s and 1980s. I was wondering if it is worth the time and money to try and track these books down, or if most of the information will be touched upon in the two Stretton books. As the Forest Venturer magazine seems to cover early Preservation it would be of interest, but they seem to be hard to come by and expensive when they do show up. Any advice would be great, thanks. Matt

Thanks, that's very helpful! Could I check what the 'green book' is though, I'm pretty new to LNER and constituents, so not sure if this is an obvious question

I just got a copy of the Yeadon's register for the J14/15s, and have a couple of questions about the J15 braking, if someone could answer it for me I'd be very grateful. P49 of the register says the original 249 were steam braking on the engine, no train braking from built, only seven received other sort of brakes. Does anyone know which seven and what they were fitted with? Also, while thirty five of the final forty were dual fitted, the other five were Westinghouse only until 1931/2 when they received Vacuum injectors. Does anyone know why this was? I think this was an appropriate topic to add on to, cheers.

Afternoon everyone, I've been looking at getting a couple of Jintys based at Barrow in Furness Shed between about 1950-1956. For added variation I'd like one original 50 without the sand fillers in the tank side, and one with. Looking at BR Database and Shed Bash UK, I've come up with these examples: Original: 47287 Newer: 47322, 47323, 47605 I was wondering if anyone knew of any other examples in either of the above categories, or where I could find out more. Cheers.

Hi, I was wondering if anyone knew anything about what transfers came in the old K's 1400 kits, if any. On many of the boxes I've seen online, the word 'transfers' was crossed out. I wasn't sure if this meant some were supplied with transfers and some were not, as motor and gears don't seem to be crossed out on any boxes I have seen. I'd also be interested to know what the transfers depictes, as most built examples seem to bear either GWR or GREAT WESTERN transfers, not many have either version of the BR crest and I've only ever seen one shirtbutton crest 1400 built from a K's. From the amount of 1436s I've seen I'm guessing that is the numberplate supplied in the box. Thanks.

Thanks all, I'll put a couple of orders in!

Hi, I've been using http://shedbashuk.blogspot.com/p/index-of-shed-visits.html?m=1 to find out which GWR 5700s would been allocated to Old Oak Common in the 1930s. There is no information for the years 1930-1933 though, would anyone be able to advise where I can get a copy of this information if it exists? The following has information for 1929 http://www.greatwestern.org.uk/060_5700det.htm Thanks, Matt

Thanks for that, I'll bear that in mind! I will not definitely go one way or the other on the coupling rods yet then. Hi Alex, that would be very helpful, thank you! Apologies for that late reply, I've had Corona.

Thanks, that thread is really interesting and helpful, the period I'm looking at is way before these boxes were introduced if I've ready that correctly, so I don't need to worry about them. This is another great resource, thanks for producing it. I didn't notice the 4 or 4/ note, that's really helpful. Could I check that the 'h/s' examples, rather than 'h/s+v/s' are what I am after. It looks like my appropriate number range is 13167-13244. Of those nos 13167-13216 were built in Derby whilst 13217-13244 were built in Darlington. I believe Darlington left their 08 side rods unpainted, whereas Derby painted them red, and Darlington varnished the wooden doors on the 08s they built. Is it clear if these would have been a wood-brown colour or black like the loco body? I think those are the only major differences between the two.

Afternoon all, I am looking for prototypical numbers for a couple of 08s and thought there no better place to ask than this. Specifically they are 08s carrying the BR black livery, for a layout to be set in circa 1957. A few specific details of both diesels are: Vacuum Exhauster Cabinets (as I belive the boxes nearest the bonnet are called) are present on both sides of the locomotives. The rear cab lighting conduits are the newer, straighter setup (ie no diagonal wires). No 'extra cabinet' present on the LHS of the locomotives near the fuel tank as seen on some locos. The grab rails are the older horizontal style, rather than the newer vertical ones. So, basically the above, with another box present on the right hand side and the rear cab light conduits shaped as below. I've had a look at a few sources such as: 1. 2. and the following PDF: 3. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.railway-centre.com/uploads/7/2/2/3/7223531/class_08-13_fleet_list.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwijvvaix9fsAhXSa8AKHV-iA4IQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw1xCaAK6jPexIrfUqi8fTRd The spreadsheet in source 2 suggests mid-56 was the end of 08s being painted in the black livery, but the PDF in source 3 says there were more more up to 13336 (Feb '57). Would anyone know which date, if either, is correct? Source 3 also says locos initially black were painted green upon overhaul, I think it's unlikely any were painted green by the time I'm looking at, but again if anyone knows better it'd be great to know. From my understanding of source 1, engines 08001 (D3004) to 08176 (D3244) had Vaccuum Exhauster Cabinets fitted to both sides of the running board and were available during/by 1957. Source 2 suggests partway through 1956 the change from two 'VEC' boxes to one was simultaneous with the introduction of vertical grab rails - I think this means 08001 (D3004) to 08176 (D3244) is the limit for both the boxes and horizontal handrails. For the lamps on the cab rear, source 2 suggests in mid-55 the lighting conduits changed from a diagonal route to the top light to a more simple T junction and straight up, but has no exact date/Loco numbers where this was changed are present, any information about when this happened would be great. I'm still unsure what that rear box does to be honest, and haven't been able to find any information about which locos they were built with. It can be seen next to the fuel tank in the image below. Any help finding out more would be lovely, thanks all!