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19 hours ago, rockershovel said:

Reverting to the 6N, I see that France STILL haven’t quite worked out that committing obvious, blatant fouls, right in front of the ref, halfway through the game, probably isn’t the way forward. 

 

 

The France of old, there; complete lack of discipline. They were giving away penalties in the first half like it was going out of fashion.

5 hours ago, Ken.W said:

 

Yes, Gresley coaches were wooden framed bodies.

 

So too were the Thompson stock, although these were intended to have steel body framing, post-war conditions necessitated otherwise.

Gresley's wooden-bodied stock was wooden panels screwed to steel frames, a quite common method of construction pre-war. There were quite a few steel-panelled non-corridor diagrams built from about 1936 on, but their construction was contracted out.

I think the the problem the LNER had was that their workshops were equipped for construction of wood-bodied coaches, and they had to think long and hard about investing in change, given their financial situation.

22 minutes ago, montyburns56 said:

 

Yeah, but it's like seeing pictures of blue grey coaches with steam engines. I know it must have been fairly common but it still looks slightly odd to my eyes. I think because the Class 50s were the first?? diesel to only ever be in rail blue and seem more modern compared to the Modernisation Plan classes, so it seems a bit jarring to see them next to dirty old steam loco.

There is quite a well-known photo of steam-hauled blue and grey coaches; The Liverpool portion of the Edinburgh/Glasgow - Liverpool/Manchester express, from Preston on 3.8.68; the very last steam hauled passenger train on BR. I'm not sure Trev52 of this parish didn't photograph it as well, and put it on the thread he ran here a couple of years ago.

1 hour ago, Mike Storey said:

 

Well, you would think so, wouldn't you? But you have only to read the history of GWEP to see why it has not worked out that way.

 

The increased clearances are not for Euro gauge locos, by the way. They are as interpreted by UK safety authorities, and were not challenged by NR in time (although NR dispute that).

Or anyone else, for that matter.

7 minutes ago, The Johnster said:

AFAIK all traction motors are DC, but I'm happy to be proved wrong on this matter.  I like the exhaust solution at the Australian factory; stick the nose end out through the wall!

They are free standing, aren't they?

On 28/02/2020 at 05:42, mikesndbs said:

https://www.watercressline.co.uk/article.php/83/b453433-br-lowfit-wagon

Carrying a container!

21 hours ago, jetmorgan said:

Opening scenes from The Mind Benders starring Dirk Bogarde. The usual Talking Pictures TV recording. I would think most is stock footage and you get a continuity error when GWR King class 6015 King Richard III turns into and LMS 4-6-0, either Patriot or Royal Scot on what looks like a postal service, you can see the roof of what looks like some sort of van, possibly 6 wheeled in the train. Then it turns back in to a Castle class but this time 5056 Ogmore Castle/Earl of Powis.

 

 

I have to say that those sequences with the Royal Scots don't half look similar to those at the start of Brief Encounter.

Given the amount of demolition/building that has already taken place, will we able to see any "Progress" photos?

2 minutes ago, Pandora said:

The important subject  price of a ticket to travel on HS2  is still unanswered.  Will the operators price tickets for maximising profit   (high ticket prices, but low ridership), or for maximising passenger numbers (high ridership, low prices)?

Good question, but I suspect we'll have to wait a good few years to find out. Another possibility, I suppose, is that there will be a reserved seat system; once all the seats in a train are taken, that's it!

18 hours ago, Mark Saunders said:

This link makes interesting reading and the attitude of the Prime Minister and the blame culture that exists!

 

https://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/johnsons-puts-his-jackboot-into-hs2-engineers?utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=referral

How can you identify cost savings, etc., without having to do detail redesign work? Speaking as someone who has had to do just that many times over the years. Rather the thought the engineers had been ready to go for a few years now, but it was the politicians being distracted by something else that had caused the delay. The points in the article about cost inflation due to the environmental works in Bucks, and wondering if there is anyone in government who can manage a project of this size, are well-made

Would I be correct in thinking that HS2 is the largest single railway project, in terms of mileage, ever attempted in this country. The only others that come close are probably the Great Northern, The London & Birmingham and the Grand Junction, surely.

7 minutes ago, rue_d_etropal said:

Good article in The Spectator abiut reopening old GCR route as alternative to HS2 , thought I was only one thinking of it,

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/08/there-is-a-far-better-option-than-hs2-and-it-already-exists/?fbclid=IwAR0odzKudej03_eJlvSzqn3hvHGfzJVYGYBwh9XbFFQMBbNG9EfIn2hMKzc

 

All the way from Verney to Sheffield? With so much of the trackbed built upon, bridges demolished, used as footpaths, 2 preservation groups, he's talking through his backside! The author also makes the usual mistake of thinking that it's all about saving time. I thought the maximum speed was never that high. anyway

Trafford park "village" has a similar street numbering system. I can't remember which are the evens and which he odds.

3 hours ago, 62613 said:

Uppermill is in Saddleworth, about 5 miles east of Oldham, on the A669. The museum is worth a visit in its own right. Plenty of eateries in the village, and one or two decent bars and pubs; also, in the nearby village of Greenfield.

 

My bad! The A670!

17 minutes ago, Gordon A said:

So where is this exhibition?

 

Uppermill is in Saddleworth, about 5 miles east of Oldham, on the A669. The museum is worth a visit in its own right. Plenty of eateries in the village, and one or two decent bars and pubs; also, in the nearby village of Greenfield.

1 minute ago, mikesndbs said:

 

Any photos?

Sadly not. It was mentioned in a conversation with Norman Wisenden

5 minutes ago, peanuts said:

and gaining circumference as you squish down bro 

You should visit more often!

12 hours ago, johnofwessex said:

 

I would certainly suggest that while not having a licence was not relevant to the accident, it suggests that his employers had failed at a very basic level which must suggest that they are not fit to run a bus/haulage company

About 50 years ago, (!) the school I attended involved a coach trip. The West Riding CC contracted private coach operators to do the transport. our coaches were from a neighbouring village, Which was fine, until one day the police stopped our driver, on another job, and found he was under age for driving PSVs. The coach company went out of business, and the council had to hire another company very quickly!

43 minutes ago, peanuts said:

hes taller than you bro 

Not that much; also, I'm now at that stage where I've started shrinking.

4 hours ago, melmerby said:

Another bit of idiot driving from La Grange, KY

Don't they know the white line is there for a reason?

 

Shouldn't have stopped (the train, I mean!)

1 hour ago, Kingzance said:

And that HE was a SHE!

I was referring to Peanuts

2 hours ago, Reorte said:

 

Not many places you can stand up straight, let alone stretch, when you're tall and on a sub!

I wouldn't say he was tall!

13 minutes ago, lmsforever said:

How can fourteen trains an hour be justified  ,just a thought?

Well, there are already 6, or is it 8, tph on the WCML south of Rugby at the moment. Avanti have plans to increase services to/from Liverpool to haf-hourly asap; then we get the trains from the Northern part of the MML and ECML, which are planned to use HS2 once complete. It soon adds up!

The ex-LNER coach set for the Newcastle - Liverpools via Standedge still featured teak coaches as late as 1953.

6 minutes ago, corneliuslundie said:

Have patience. The Newtown bypass took 70 years from first proposal to opening last year. I imagine the cost went up a bit in that time!

Jonathan

And the first phase of the Mottram - Tintwistle bypass (Hattersley to Mottram Moor) has apparently got the go-ahead for construction after 40 years!