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Having stamped on Scott Parkers head and got away with it, it seems he was having one of his other weeks. And he was on the pitch to score the winning penalty

I can quite see why the ref. didn't give it. I thought he genuinely got himself in a tangle - he had nowhere else to put his foot without doing himself an injury

A contact of mine says that they are already laying in the cabling

Anyone seen the plans for Stalybridge yet?

 

I've spoken to two members of staff and I can't believe what they've said!

 

They were very guarded but:-

Platform 1, (as it is now), to go - line slewed over into where the old through roads were and to become the down relief, (Ithink he phrased it 'goods line'). Already pegged out - he said! (there are white pegs in the ground.),

Platform 3, (as it is now), to go - probably, see next,

Patform 2 to become Down and the wall on the other side removed. Whole platform, (both edges), to be aligned further over, (Northwards, where the old through lines were), and extended, (presumably where bay platform 3 is currently). New platform edge to be the line into Manchester,

Outer goods loop to be Up goods line' - as is,

New Bay Platform to be opened adjacent to (current) Platform 1, ending buffers right up to where the white fence is next to the Buffet Bar. (There used to be Bays here in the days of steam!).

 

 

So one island platform and one bay. Goods loops to be either side of island platform.

There was some confusion as to bi-directional running. Indication was that all 4 roads were to be bidirectional, but i interpreted it as only the two platform roads being bidirectional.

 

 

Why?

There just seems to be so many better solutions than this one.

 

(Does explain why (current) Platform 1 has just had its canopy renewed!)

See my post No.63 on this thread. I think it basically agrees with what Edwin_M put above. They'll have to move the location cabinet near Rassbottom Street bridge too, I think.

The last time I danced on Stalybridge Station (on the platform!) I ended up with a calf strain!

Also in the gents in a pub (in South Shields) 'Please do not put your tabs in the trough, as we do not piss in the ashtrays'

Where in Slawit is that?

North Blyth Staithes (surely) near the end of 'Get Carter'.

Crooks in Cloisters, by the Carry-on Gang, starts with the Great Train Robbery

what was the name of the film where a fox hunt ends up on a railway line?

The Belstone Fox.

ISTR a couple of years ago, when Merseyrail were trying to become a 'standalone' franchise, they were talking about trying to get funding for electrifying Bidston-Wrexham at 25kV a.c.But of course it didn't happen.

Electric trains have better acceleration than diesels so the speed restrictions are less of a problem. I think most of the ones mentioned by Coachmann will remain but they will have less effect on the journey time. However capacity could become a serious issue.

 

I took a look at the remains of the Friezland loop not so long ago and the results can be summarised in two words "forget it". All five (?) viaducts, all the underbridges and most of the earthworks have gone, the short tunnel south of Greenfield is buried and the formation is built over in several places. So reopening that isn't really an option.

 

The maximum practicable train length via Standedge is probably 8 cars (of 20m stock) dictated by the platforms at Huddersfield which would be difficult to lengthen and where all trains would probably still have to call. Given the amount of overcrowding now, and the extra demand generated by faster journeys, you're probably looking at all trains being made up to that length at the busiest times from the start of electric services. Further growth will require more trains above the four fasts per hour today (the RUS proposes a fifth).

 

Five trains per hour, with similar speed profiles, isn't a lot but the difficulty then becomes fitting the slower locals and freight in the gaps. You could remove the local and stop each fast at a couple of minor stations but then you're back into train length issues as most of them have much shorter platforms. The remodelled Stalybridge will have three through platforms, allowing fast trains to overtake slower ones, but that does no more than restore the situation of today when the local only mixes with the Transpennines east of Stalybridge. Electric locals and (less likely) electric freight would also help reduce the difference in speed, but the shortish loops at Diggle and Marsden are unlikely to be enough especially if freight increases. DRS has just started running a Transpennine intermodal freight, which I assume goes via Standege, and this is a sign that rail is getting more competitive for the relatively short distances involved.

 

Putting track back at least one of the Standedge single bores has been suggested as the easiest way of providing a long loop, has the advantage of being level so looped freights can get moving more quickly, and would also help keep the trains running if one of the tunnels is under maintenance. Alternatively it should be possible to find somewhere on the former four-track section either at Diggle or between Marsden and Huddersfield.

 

Freight could also be diverted via Calder Valley and Brighouse, which has gentler gradients but is now has four passenger trains per hour in parts. It has no loops at present but several former four-track sections that might be reinstated, and it would require gauge enhancement as it is more restrictive than Standedge now (Standedge is W8 now but would probably be W10/W12 after electrification, don't recall the gauge on Calder Valley).

In the 60s, the Regular loading over Standedge was 12 coaches for the Liverpool/ Newcastles, plus usually a class 45/46 Peak. According to Rail magazine, work is in progress at the moment to raise linespeed between Stalybridge and Diggle to 75mph. The spped restriction over the canal tunnel has already gone, I'm fairly sure of that. The linespeed in the Colne Valley is 85mph, due to the fact that when the line was de-quadrified (ugh!) the surviving twin tracks were slewed to ease the curves.

 

Site work starts big time from 1st April 2012 (no joke) when both the goods lines and the existing bay platform are signed out of use to allow construction work to start. At the end of Oct 2012, Stalybridge Signal Box will close and we end up with a station that has 2 west facing bay platforms and 3 through platforms, 1 of which is bi-directional for through traffic.

 

F

If both goods loops are being signed OOU, how will the binliners run? At present the morning one (from Bredbury?) usually sits in the eastbound loop from about 1115 to 1130.

I was told at a recent party 'do' that the signalbox is going next October.

IThe Stalybridge bay (approved and probably by now under construction)

Not started yet! I first heard this about 3 years ago from one of the staff at S/B. New bay on the fire station side, so that Victoria trains don't have to cross the entire layout; converting one of the goods loops for passengers; and reinstating one of the through lines between the main platforms. Wouldn't it make more sense to electrify into Stalybridge from the Guide Bridge direction first, as the masts are intact to within a mileor so of the station. Also will Guide bridge-Stockport and Denton Junction - Ashton Moss North be electrified? Daft if they aren't!

2 accounts, a deliberate trip and a tackle from behind both of which are yellow card offences.

If I can recall from my refereeing days, the actual offence is 'tackle from behind which endangers the player's safety'. You can still tackle from behind, provided you do it cleanly; tackling (from any direction) is an art.

If you do endanger the player, IIRC, it's considered 'Serious Foul Play' for which the offender will be dismissed.

Bl00dy foreigners!!!!!

 

http://news.bbc.co.u...ll/15351465.stm

 

Coming over here, spending all their money and then stitching up the game.

 

Can't believe I'm saying this, but good on Fergie.....

 

Regards

 

Neal.

Not just the foreigners; Phil Gartside at Bolton suggested something similar a couple of seasons ago, and the idea received more than one vote; and the late-not-much-lamented Garry Cook suggested it as well.

Anyway, well done Fergie. There! I never thought I'd say that!

Last one; nice to see that the Hillsborough families came a lot closer to getting their wishes as of last night. Parliament did absolutely superbly

I'm gonna tell it how I see it. Violent computer games, violent gangster ©rap giving kids the idea that violence and gang culture are acceptable, and lazy benefit seeking parents who don't care about their kids, but care about the money they get for sitting on their backsides infront of the TV blowing smoke at the ceiling.

Don't just think that it's the benefit-seeking parents who are the the bad ones. The area where I live is fairly respectable, as far as the town it's part of goes. Most of the houses are late 50's 60's and 70's-type semi-detached and detached. Quite a few of the adults are self-employed tradesmen, who have their company van on the drive and all is very nice inside and out. The reason the homes are nice inside is that those with kids wont't allow them to play inside, and would rather have them wandering the streets causing mayhem.

Paul Scholes signs for Celtic.....................!

 

http://craignorwood.com/gallery/main.php?cmd=imageview&var1=Paul+Scholes+-+Staylebridge+Celtic+FC%2FDSC_2100.jpg

 

Ok, not that Celtic, Staylebridge Celtic, his lad plays there and he turned out for the 'fathers of the juniors' side, ran the show without breaking sweat. Nowt like having a ringer im your side

I was going to go to that! 2 quid to see Scholes and Kevin Sinfield... bargain! The thread about this on the 'bridge site has nothing but good to say about Paul. My experience of him was at a 'bridge Juniors presentation night a few years ago. He turned up with the family; Mrs. Scholes farmed the kids, while he signed autographs and posed for photos all night; truly a gentleman.

Paul Scholes signs for Celtic.....................!

 

http://craignorwood.com/gallery/main.php?cmd=imageview&var1=Paul+Scholes+-+Staylebridge+Celtic+FC%2FDSC_2100.jpg

 

Ok, not that Celtic, Staylebridge Celtic, his lad plays there and he turned out for the 'fathers of the juniors' side, ran the show without breaking sweat. Nowt like having a ringer im your side

I was going to go to that! 2 quid to see Scholes and Kevin Sinfield... bargain! The thread about this on the 'bridge site has nothing but good to say about Paul. My experience of him was at a 'bridge Juniors presentation night a few years ago. He turned up with the family; Mrs. Scholes farmed the kids, while he signed autographs and posed for photos all night; truly a gentleman.

Before Oldham Corp buses carried route No's didn't they carry letters.

 

I remember the D on Hollinwood ave, New Moston it's terminus was in front of the Tizer depot/works/offices. When waiting for the workers from Avroe's it was never allowed into the bus station opposite the works like the Manchester Corp buses

I think the letters lasted almost to the end of Oldham Corporation Tranport Department's separate existence; I can certainly recall the V service to Holts as late as 1967, and the O,T, & S (Hollinwood to Lees County End, Grotton, and Stamford Road, Waterhead, which was which, I can't now remember) certainly lasted for longer. There was also the M to Middleton, G to Alt(?), and where did the B go to? Coach?

I've been at sea since 1974 and I've never seen an open front switchboard, I thought they were illegal even then. I have to admit we still don't normally wear safety hats in the engine room unless we have people working overhead [generally in drydock]. I've banged my head more often wearing one than not, they make you just a little taller so you hit the pipes you normally miss! [i've always worn safety shoes, hearing protection and proper boiler suits though. ]

 

Jeremy

Well, in November 1974 I flew out to Japan to join m.v.'British Gull' at some place near Kobe. She was built in 1959, and still exhibited engine room arrangements that were going out of fashion 10 years before; exhaust piston Harland & Wolff engine (gorgeous!) two scotch marine boilers fed by a Weir's up and down feed pump ( which you had to keep a close eye on!) ring main cargo system, with reciprocating pumps, and two 5-cylinder Ruston diesel gennys, which supplied electricity at 110V d.c via an open front switchboard. She survived, in Brunei Bay until at least 1980.

Back to the junctions theme:

 

 

Hopefully this one can be found from a Rail Atlas without too much trawling of OS maps?

Barkston Junctions? Barkston South Junction is where Mallard started her record run.

As Tony Capstick commented, when visiting a small West Yorkshire town well known as a model railway show venue, "If you're posh, you call it 'Slaithwaite', but if you're common like me, you call it 'Slathit'". I think the locals have got it down to "Sla(h)wit" now.

Nah then, Nah then; when I were at school in Linfit 40 year ago, we had a visit from the then Prime Minister, Mr Wilson, when he was on the election trail in 1970. Even he, a true Huddersfield man, pronounced it 'Slawit'. Only the automated announcements on Stalybridge Staion call it 'Slaythwayt'

A place I used to live, and probably well-known to Coachmann; I give you Upper Mill (it's really one word)

Then there was the dyslexic Yorkshireman wearing a cat flap on his head..................

Another point is that she probably knows the Offside Law better than Andy Who? ever did

A bit cheeky, that! She's actually a very good ref. I went to a game a couple of years ago (Stafford Rangers v Stalybridge) and I have to say she got everything right...and what's more, not a cheep out of the players! I can well remember her giving a stern lecture to one of the Stafford defenders, him being about 18 inches taller than her, and it was 'yes miss, no miss, O.K. miss' and so on.

Chris Hughton has been sacked by Newcastle United.

Absolutely ridiculous decision.

Mike Ashley, is an idiot.

Spot on, that man! Sorry for the edit.

Russia won the 2018 World Cup bid - and I think BBC Panorama has a lot to answer for.

 

You don't accuse the voting committee of corruption a week before the final decision and voting is taken. One week later - that's all it would have taken, frankly.

 

Hard hitting journalism - a political agenda at the centre of it?

Are you syaing that all the frantic last-minute lobbying really made any difference? Most peoples' minds were made up long ago, methinks. Most of the attacks on the BBC have come from papers with a political agenda against the BBC, including one owned by a rival TV owner who would like nothing more than to see the BBC disappear; and another who have kept strangely quiet about their sister-paper's stitch-up of Lord Treisman, and who have had a long-standing anti-BBC bias.